42 thoughts on “Thursday’s Papers

  1. anolderman

    UK to inject for next two years with 100m doses! I think Ireland signed up for 22m. Which might be 5 shots per person. Your on the 3rd. Bit daft if they are all for the ALPHA strain. How much does each shot cost in total when administered? BTW interesting story about ivermectin https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/dying-covid-19-patient-recovers-after-court-orders-hospital-administer-ivermectin
    I’m nearly 60 not had even a sniffle & I travel a lot. Stopped taken the flu shot 3 yrs ago. Not had a runny nose since I went integrative. Rocking 120-150 on the D3 in bloods. Perhaps people might do some personal research in that area. Was in Liffey Valley today with daughter, oh my Irish people have got really really FAT. I confess to staring, its like two people in the one dress. Young women were particularly big. I’m not sneering just shocked at the observation. This can not be good for the populations health.
    PS Bodger keep publishing the alt news tis good to have a balance, makes one think. Bullies hate that ;-) & I hate bullies

    1. Cú Chulainn

      Anolderman admits to obsessively starring at multiple young women in shopping centre, Imagining two women squeezed into each dress with no end of pneumatic interest. Question, did you notice how your daughter felt about your starring ?

        1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

          I thought that was odd too,
          I stared when I came home too as much at the fashion/ make up as differences in weight…granted I was looking more at the lads ;)

        1. Ian - oG

          @ Cian Lol,

          Olderman disappointed young girls are not skinny enough for his tastes.

          Also, zerohedge, more lol.

      1. goldenbrown

        I’d say this charger infection can do anything (in his imaginary world) Lilly

        how long exactly has Broadsheet been infected with this troll folks?

        more than 2 years running for sure…3 years? 5 years? is he/she a tolerated part of the setup here? or is it just the fairly wide open nature of the blog makes it impossible to ban the p—k?

        1. SOQ

          There is a number of dysfunctional cranks on this site using multiple usernames but anolderman is not one of them. Why they are allowed to do so is another story.

    1. SOQ

      That is just an attempt to deflect the parental blowback.

      They are responsible for making that decision, no one else.

  2. Andrew

    Obesity is a factor though and nobody seems to want to mention it. We’re nearly 2 years in to this, which is more than enough time to lose excess weight.

    1. Verbatim

      If it were that easy Andrew! Most people don’t realize that it’s a chronic disease with a multifactorial etiology including genetics, environment, metabolism, lifestyle, and behavioral components. Obese people need medical and professional assistance to get better.
      There is no treatment for obese patients in Ireland under the health care system. They’re told to go on a diet and left to their own devices. It’s the saddest thing in the world.
      A friend said that she was refusing her kids “treats” at home, and told them they could get something “nice” next time they were in town, which meant some form of sugary tasting snack; it’s our whole attitude to sugar/carbs about what’s “nice” and what’s a “treat” that should be changed – it’s all upsidedown.

      What about that company that delivers food “JUST EAT” is their dystopian logo.

      1. Mise

        Not eating as much and doing exercise will definitely help.
        Although it is cheaper to buy a pack of 4 chocolate bars than an apple in most shops.

        1. Nigel

          We have designed our society around overconsumption and cars, such that eating less and doing exercise takes way more effort than overconsuming and being sedentary. I know, weird.

          1. johnnny

            teach them how grow.
            grow your own.
            food
            veg
            herbs
            lash few chickens out there
            every school in Ireland should have a small high intensity farm,every one.

          2. Nigel

            Sounds lovely, and it is if you’re suited to it, but a lot of people have absolutely no interest or desire or time to grow their own food, and it really isn’t all that easy to keep up in a significant way. Lots of community-supported local farm/allotment schemes would be good, along with the school suggestion. Actually most of the schools round us have a growing area now that I think of it.

            But again, all those take effort and work and knowledge and help and support and money and our society is designed to discourage it.

          3. johnnny

            in my opinion a lot bad food choices is down to poor education around nutrition,we are inundated with farm tour requests from high schools/vocational schools.

            there seems be a large interest in ‘farming’,we allowed a few tours,most the tours we did the kids appeared very engaged.

            some schools in NY have decent set up’s with indoor growing,but if you really want learn how grow,get sent to the county jails,they now have state art growing facilities or are building them,using opioid payouts from drug companies,we are trying get a ‘hemp’ program approved,strong interest from inmates in it:)

            i do the jail stuff,someome else handles school/college farm/grow tours but they packed and the kids all seem love them.

          4. Nigel

            I disagree. Bad nutrition is down to billion dollar industries swamping us with food low on nutrition high on sugars and fats and billion dollar advertising industries taking up massive amounts of physical, digital and mental space all around us it to sell it to us, leading to billion dollar industries selling us healthy diets and exercise regimes that are designed to fail and to blame us for failing. Education and public health campaigns and healthy food initiatives going up against all that can seem like trying to dig up Everest with a spoon.

            But still, those sound like great initiatives, well done.

          5. johnnny

            yeah i volunteered for it but regret it,i’ve a lot judgement issues with people convicted for sex crimes,a lot the volunteers in the current gardening programs tend be serving sentences for them-so its not really for me,but the jail farms are where the older service animals go to retire,great horses….

            i’m not a really a people person or public facing,but working or trying to get a hemp training program approved,which will attract inmates interested in growing weed,more my style…most cannabis companies hire or have on staff people with convictions,some bore you to tears with there tall tales of moving ‘weight’ for the ‘cartels’…..:)

            a small high intensity farm at schools could also be used teach about renewable energy and things like capturing rainwater,as well as feeding students/familes,there just is something very different about eating food you have grown.

      2. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

        so well said, so many factors,
        processed food isn’t a treat, it’s poison, sugar is addictive and the brains favorite drug,
        once that sinks in you are on the way to recovery.

        1. Nigel

          I don’t think addiction works like that. In my experience, once you realise you’re addicted to high-sugar carbs you’re more likely to end up feeling helpless and self-loathing and spiral deeper into ill-health. We don’t HELP people overcome this particular addiction, we scourge them for being addicted and blame for failing to not be addicted. We lecture over and over again how simple it is to not be addicted to sugar and fats and so it must be their fault that they aren’t, despite the evidence all around us that it simply isn’t true.

      3. Lilly

        Replace religion classes with cookery and nutrition classes in schools. Home Economics should be mandatory.

        1. Fergalito

          Lesson 1: How to have a bit of manners

          Lesson 2: Tidying up after yourself

          Lesson 3: Parents are not your slave

          Lesson 3 (practical/lab work): How to get something for yourself

          Participants are required to have a medium to long attention span, must turn off all personal devices and nust engage their own mental faculties at all times.

          Students who successfully complete Year 1 will be sent down the country for a month working long days on the bog or on a farm. Students who do not successfully complete Year 1 will be sent for two months.

  3. Verbatim

    If it were that easy Andrew! Most people don’t realize that it’s is a chronic disease with a multifactorial etiology including genetics, environment, metabolism, lifestyle, and behavioral components. Obese people need medical and professional assistance to get better.
    There is no treatment for obese patients in Ireland under the health care system. They’re told to go on a diet and left to their own devices. It’s the saddest thing in the world.
    A friend said that she was refusing her kids “treats” at home, and told them they could get something “nice” next time they are in town, which meant some form of sugary tasting snack, it’s our whole attitude to sugar/carbs that should change and about what’s “nice” and what’s a “treat” – it’s all upsidedown.
    What about that company that delivers food “JUST EAT” is their dystopian logo.

    1. benblack

      They’re all it – legislators taking advantage of a legal loophole to enrich their respective parties instead of creating new legislation to close it.

      Shocking stuff.

  4. Cian

    Breaking news. The conspiracy theorists were wrong again.

    Dr. Marcus De Brun
    My account has not been closed by Twitter. I closed it myself to take a respite from social media. I stand over all of tbe counterfactuals & data posted here. Please feel free to think independently & make informed choices in respect of your own health and that of your loved ones

    https://twitter.com/indepdubnrth/status/1464838149218222081

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