75 thoughts on “A Turbulent Year”

  1. George

    You could contact Alpa for comment before jumping to conclusions. That’s what journalists do.

    Have you considered the possibility that most of the 2019 and 2020 deaths might have been reported in the end of year editions for those years and the smaller number of deaths might be just the ones not previously reported?

    No, its easier to jump to conclusions that suit your viewpoint.

    1. Nigel

      If they even jumped to a conclusion I’d have more respect, but they’re just putting a fragmentary story out there with no context or further research just to see if it’ll provide ammo for the conspiracy. If not, they’ll move on to the next one. Throwing crap against a wall to see what sticks.

      1. hmmm

        Yes it’s all just meaningless random coninkyidink to the man from the Babylon Bee.

        Just like the the excess of strokes and heart attacks in healthy sports people…

        Just like the excess children’s mortality.

        Nothing to do with the unapproved, untested vaccines.

        If you think that you’re obviously a wAyCiSt!!

        1. Nigel

          This story is literally crap. It’s a big stinking pile of steaming wet crap. And you’ve bought into it so throoughly you might as well be taking a bath in it. If you’re going to provide an alternative to the mainstream narrative, shouldn’t you have actual standards?

    3. Jerr

      Maybe the fact that as we speak a case is going through the US courts by pilots who are or died from the inadequate ventilation systems because the airlines skimped on costs of ventilation on planes to make profit.

      Quite a few pilots passed out from noxious fumes some actually died.
      You can actually download articles about it on the net.

      Maybe some of them died of breathing in the air from flights jammed with plenty of people that could of had covid let’s face it travel spread it to the four corners of the world

      Let’s face it they insist one wears a mask in a shop a cafe you cannot sit in a bar at the bar

    5. Dean

      Why would they simply put a couple end of years in the whole 2020 spot? Don’t be deluded. It’s the Vaccines. It’s as plain as the nose on your face.

  2. Elly

    More likely it’s listing people from 2019 and 2020 that it missed in the publications from those years, plus the list they currently have for 2021… Post the lists printed in the Dec 2019 and 2020 magazines and see how they compare, before jumping to conclusions…

    1. SOQ

      I very much doubt that. Monitoring of pilot’s health would be very comprehensive and accurate because of the responsibility of the job.

      1. George

        They would mostly be retired pilots. Why would you post all of the deaths for the past 3 years in your end of year magazine every year?

        1. SOQ

          If they are retired then they are ex pilots- not current.

          Including those who have left their jobs makes no sense.

          Either way, why the big jump?

          1. George

            You’re asking why a magazine for pilots would include the deaths of retired colleagues? Do you know many people? Pick some of the names and google their obituary. I tried two at random both retired pilots .

            There is no jump shown here. The lists for 2019 and 2020 are not complete. For example this article includes the names of two American pilots who died in 2020 and aren’t on the list:
            https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-20/coronavirus-deaths-airline-industry-airplanes-flying

            Clearly the small number of names for 2019 were names not included in previous lists. Locate last years edition and we’ll see if there is any jump.

        2. Cian

          This includes retired pilots….

          ….unless TWA (1930 until 2001) and Pan American (1927-1991) were still flying in 2021.

  4. Pat

    Time to speculate wildly and claim the vaccine pilot death Qpocalypse has begun before someone ruins all this with science or explanations or whatever

  5. John Smith

    Presumably the 2019 and 2020 deaths are ones to be added to deaths already announced for those years so we need to have full figures for both those years. Also we don’t know the cause of death for any of these pilots. We should not jump to conclusions, whatever our views about what is happening currently.

    1. SOQ

      Agreed but there is a rise in overall deaths across the board this year, including Ireland- something is causing it.

        1. George

          For the first 6months of 2021 deaths are down 992 according to the CSO.
          Deaths were up by 890 in Q1 of 2021 and down by 1,882 in Q2.

          That is the most up to date info from the CSO. Where do you get your data?

          1. SOQ

            Yes you are right- a decrease of 932 in Q1 and 2 which is the first half of the year.

            I do recall something about an analysis of rip.ie which said they were up mind- if I can remember who done it.

          2. K. Cavan

            George, analysis of annual figures is meaningful but looking at quarterly figures is not. 2021 is indeed the lowest Q2 figure currently available, are you implying that the Covid injections had a miraculous effect on All-causes Mortality?
            The percentage increase in Total Mortality, by year, is as follows, 2015: +2.24%,
            2016: +1.46%
            2017: +0.31%
            2018: +2.07%
            2019: +0.06%
            2020: +2.03%
            As you can see, our small population causes large percentage variation from year to year but 2020, the year we allegedly had a Pandemic, shows no evidence of such an occurrence, despite the fact that the Total Mortality increase in 2019, being the lowest on the list, meant we carried forward into 2020 a huge cohort who would’ve been expected to die in 2019. If we had the 2,500 deaths from Covid that the HSE claims, we would’ve expected an increase in 2020 in the region of 8%, which has never happened & is unlikely ever to occur, except in the fevered imaginations of Covididiots.

          3. George

            K Cavan, SOQ said more people have died in Ireland this year. I posted the most recent available statistics which don’t show this and asked for evidence to back up the claim. None has been offered.

            When the full years data is available we will then know if there were more deaths in 2021 as SOQ claimed. Analysis of annual figures is the only way to determine if more people died in 2021 than previous years. That’s what my post is about, not anything else.

    2. George

      “It” isn’t anything.
      This is clearly an end of year list of deaths during 2021 which includes retired pilots and which also includes a list of deaths not included in lists from previous years.

  7. Niall

    According to it’s website, ALPA represents 61,000 pilots. If you believe that only 1 died in a particular year then…….

  8. Yoji

    1 min. 1 minute it took me to find that this is total BS.

    https://twitter.com/IanMinthorn/status/1468814537503641607?t=gZvV5oLeR6dCoH89Qt_8Ag&s=19

    This shows previous years publications with higher numbers. This is because the numbers you are using are just people they didn’t report on from previous years. Seriously you lot are just getting more stupid by the day. READY, FIRE, AIM. as long as it fits your agenda. Will there be an update on the implication in the OP?

  9. uncle gaybo

    I used to come here for journalism that shone a light on issues the traditional media chose to avoid.

    I find myself coming here less and less. Posting the rubbish without comment or analysis is not journalism.

    1. Johnny 'Diego' Keenan

      You obviously didn’t come here to often. Then you’d know the format of how it works.

    3. K. Cavan

      What is journalism then, Uncle, the risible efforts of the MSM or do you have an imaginary standard you hold real-life journalism up to?
      No, you see, first they came for the journalists, we don’t know the truth of what happened after that.

      1. Cian

        Because, if you actually engaged your brain, you would realise that the majority of deaths are in the elderly. This list is of people mostly in their 70s and 80s;
        They would have been pilots in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s; when yes, it was hugely male dominated.

          2. scoops yeah?

            Who are you people and why do you waste your days having endless petty arguments on this inconsequential little website.

        2. K. Cavan

          That’s the way it usually is, Cian, old people are the liklier to have illnesses & die. We can see this in the Fake Pandemic, where the Median age of “Covid victims” is older than our Average Life Expectancy. Since the “Pandemic” is a Political operation & has nothing to do with health, these results have been replicated across the West. Meanwhile, in Africa, which is <5% vaccinated, the entire continent has a lower death toll, total numbers, not percentages, than the highly-vaccinated UK, illustrating how useless the vaccines are. Our FF, FG & Green Party government really need to face charges of Crimes Against Humanity for every single decision they've made, all the way through this. When their guilt is ascertained, Health Administrators who've conspired with this con should be next.
          We need to plot a route out of this, the one our government is suggesting is a complete & utter failure.

  11. K. Cavan

    You Covidians are now exhibiting signs of severe mental derangement & I’m not being flippant, you all need professional help, urgently. Pilots are fastidious about their health, they are constantly monitored & they love their job & wish to keep doing it until their legally imposed retirement, at 65.
    Neither are they the only group of healthy individuals who’s mortality rates have skyrocketed while human beings are being used as lab rats. Deaths of young males in the UK are heading in the direction of doubling, since the introduction of the fake vaccines.
    It’s inevitable, if people don’t resist, that this program of state-sponsored murder will eventually claim more lives than even the inaccurate & deliberately-inflated death toll from Covid, which in the UK, included, people who had no symptoms of pneumonia whatsoever but who had tested positive within 90 days of death.
    You people are in deep denial, at best, perhaps suffering from paranoid delusions & you are making a gibbering, drooling holy show of yourselves, here on this platform, today.
    Seek help, you really, really need to return to sanity & get a grip on reality, before your deluded state becomes permanent. I may think you’re a bunch of goons but I still wouldn’t wish the horrors of mental illness to claim you all, we’ve enough health problems to deal with when the government is engaged in knowingly murdering it’s citizens in cold blood.

    1. Nigel

      We’re having this other discussion under another story about how I cruelly caricature and label people like yourself to ‘other’ them, and I was wondering if you minded me using this comment as exhibit A in my defense.

        1. Troll Farm Exterminator

          You’re easily amused, 1-2-1-2. Or should that be 33? (see you down the lodge!!)

      2. K. Cavan

        As you wish, Nigel but to compare my comment in an online forum with a series of regulations being enforced by the State, reinforced by a compliant media and with which you agree wholeheartedly, I assume, involving the removal of basic Civil Liberties on the basis of Fake Science is indeed a stretch.
        I’ll throw myself fearlessly on the mercy of the court, if that’s the best you can come up with. The glaring lack of perspective in your comparison just adds to the veracity of my original comment & adds a suspicion of Paranoia to my worries about your mental health.
        Stop shooting yourself in the foot, old bean.

  13. Kim The Cardassian

    This is hilarious. We really are scraping the barrel of Covid silliness. At least pick a profession where there is no health and safety scrutiny of the people in it.

    Was I a wearer of tin foil hats, the only conclusion I can come to is that being a first officer is far safer than being a captain – its only captains that seem to kick the bucket on that list LOL

    1. K. Cavan

      But Kim, you are beyond hats, you are clad in a tinfoil crown, a sovereign of demented, fear-driven complicity to Bill Gates’ fake science who believes that only a neverending series of toxic injections can save us from a Common Cold virus that has already become endemic, just like every Coronavirus in medical history. The fake pandemic is over, time for you to let go of it & attempt to restore your grip on reality & sanity, if you can.

  15. paddy apathy

    This, I presume, is coming from a 4chan post from yesterday, “Pilots dying in DROVES”.
    I took 2 random names from the list and looked up their obits, one had a long battle with cancer the other was 94.
    Pure nonsense.
    I’m sorry I even bothered.

  16. K. Cavan

    The key to dealing with serious illnesses is timely detection & treatment, I’ve heard. Imagine, if you will, a contagion so deadly that if you show up at any A&E department in the early stages of this plague, you will be sent home & told to return at a later date, should your condition deteriorate. You walk out of the empty hospital…..
    You have now entered in the Twilight Zone.

  17. SailorGerry

    I think the entire plandemic has affected the way most people look at death, and the installation of fear by the government with its accommodating media has created the hysteria they want.
    Scared people are easy to coral into the pen and a large portion now seem willing roll up their sleeve until they eventually win on the clotshot lottery.
    People die every day and it is a normal part of the cycle, which was never really sensationalised.
    In a heavily populated country like the US, normal deaths are big numbers.
    Madeleine Albright candidly admitted that half a million Iraqi children was worth the cost, nobody flinched.
    I do not know what a normal year for pilots shuffling this mortal coil would look like, but I am glad we only had the one German Wings nutter that took the entire flight with him a few years back.
    So far we have seen very few deaths really from this virus, there is barely a blip in all cause mortality.
    No shortage of suicides, depression, poverty, alcohol abuse, people losing social skills and mass paranoia though, thanks to the global governments repression.
    But what we are starting to see is the damaged immune systems of people that are jabbed, having more negative outcomes. The damage the shots do is accretive, and as the boosters roll out, more damage will be done.
    Geert Van Den Bosch knows the score, and I am not sure why he changed camp, though I am glad he did.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/renowned-virologist-warns-of-collapse-of-our-health-system-due-to-complications-from-covid-vaccines/

    1. benblack

      That’s a pretty good article, SailorGerry.

      “This reality is most important in the case of children whose “innate immunity can easily be suppressed by vaccinal antibodies” since their “antibodies are so young and so naïve that they can easily be outcompeted by vaccinal antibodies,” he said.

      And since children are protected from many diseases by their innate immunity, including COVID-19, its suppression by these vaccines exposes them to many more dangers, and “could even lead to autoimmune diseases,” the expert warned.”

      Reminds me of puberty blocking drugs.

  18. Ron

    @NK I hope Bodger has given you a right telling off for infecting/injecting his inbox with a table you have failed to interpret and in turn insisted that you personally apologise to each of the 111 families for insinuating that they died due to the 2021 covid vaccine rollout.
    @sailorjerry get back in the sea and take the Benblack fellah with you. Absolute delinquents.

  19. Ron

    Go on outta that you fupping shills! Taking advantage of these gullible/fearful people, absolute gangsters Nick Kelly and Bodger. You owe them all an admission of your true intentions here and a public apology.
    Don’t believe for one minute you believe this poo you are posting.
    This is a direct message as you are obviously reading them based on deleting my last two comments.
    No shame having mickeys, get your houses in order.

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