90 thoughts on “Friday’s Papers

  1. SOQ

    NI opening up from Wednesday 26th- only restriction appears to be leper pass still needed for nightclubs. Although they are still insisting on the face nappies in all public indoor settings.

    This has clearly forced NPHET’s hand so talk of similar here.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/covid-passes-and-hospitality-curbs-to-go-as-nphet-clears-the-way-for-easing-of-almost-all-restrictions-in-coming-days-41262429.html

    “Nphet has, however, advised that measures in schools should remain in place until such time as children who are eligible have had the opportunity to take a full course of the vaccine.”

    Keep the children muzzled until they take the clot shot so- disgusting.

    1. Rominick

      Exactly, also if the muzzle wasn’t on display there would be no visual reminder of the “pandemic” as well as keeping Paddy in a compliant state.

    1. Bodger

      We’ll be very busy looking after the jabbed and sickly, donating blood and selling our precious jizz.

      1. Nigel

        OK, but now’s your chance to demonstrate how to lift all restrictions while focusing on protecting only the supposedly tiny minority who are vulnerable while the disease is still circulating. How is that going to work?

        1. E'Matty

          Eh, aren’t all the vulnerable fully vaxxed and boostered with your super duper vaccines? Have you no faith on them to manage the disease in endemic stage? Care homes and nursing homes should maintain struct hygiene protocols too. Beyond that, what is it you’d like Nigel?

          1. Nigel

            No, they’re not, because immunocompromised people can’t be vaccinated. Remember them?

            Vulnerable people who are vaccinated are still at risk in the case of breakthrough infections, which are more likely to happen with restrictions lifted.

            But obviously when you guys said ‘protect the vulnerable’ you didn’t actually mean it.

          2. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            like protecting the vulnerable who have lost their incomes sometimes for good, can’t feed the kids, fallen behind in the mortgage or lost all the savings put aside to get out of renting, who have lost a stable home due to breakups or suicides, who haven’t got a cancer caught and treated, who’s parents lost all their confidence and aged ten years in two and are now unable to look after themselves? Those vulnerable ?

          3. Nigel

            Them too, sure. it’s not a competition. In fact it’s probably easier to provide financial supports to people who have been financially affected, if the political will is there, than it is to support people affected in other ways, including those bereaved by covid, or those left with disabilities after a dose.

          4. Nigel

            Sure it is. And that’s terrible. Now imagine how vulnerable people are feeling with the ending of restrictions while covid is everywhere.

          5. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            I know how they are feeling, my Dad is delighted his family might get a life back, he won’t be going out, his gigging and social life is over and he’s a shell of himself but he’s not selfish, he’s had his life,
            my niece that she might get back to her activities, all triple jabbed
            don’t get me wrong, I was happy to do the right thing, give the government time to put additional medical resources in place, god knows they seem to have a magic money tree…but they didn’t.
            To keep this situation for TWO years is beyond acceptable add to that the dithering and rules that contradict each other and their own behavior that seems to suggest they don’t apply to them anyway, I’d say most people vulnerable or not just want this to be over or at least treated in a more rational comprehensive way.
            Nigel you completely underestimate how bad things have gotten for other types of vulnerable people, abuse, précarité, hunger and fupped futures.

          6. Nigel

            No, I don’t think I do. I just have a horrible feeling people are going to die because of this. It’s definitely going to happen in the UK. Hope I’m wrong.

            Not to be a downer, but there will be more pandemics, and the effects of climate change are only going to get worse. We need to act like these things are real and not images on a screen or the causes of unfair inconveniences. Otherwise you’re going to end up spending a lot of time ‘waiting for things to get back to normal.’

          7. Nigel

            Of course it’s real. But it’s not the only thing that’s real. We can do better, but not by pretending things aren’t real, whether it’s lockdow-induced hardships or the disease that caused the lockdown.

          8. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            The cure should not be worse than the disease and stop dragging ” not real ” into this conversation, I have never been a COVID denying commentator.
            I would say YOU clearly have not had to feel the real effects of two years of lock down judging by your attitude, have not had to attend suicide funerals, well at least the carpark, watched pregnant ladies in hospital sitting crying on the floor in corridors alone from devestating news,
            watched homes break up, counsel a battered wife to get help only for the judge to send her husband back home to where her out of work husband has lost the plot,
            watch people who put their heart and soul into small businesses find themselves back to zero but without the zero responsabilité and on and on.
            Watched a family struggle with a special needs child who has degenerated and worn her family into the ground through no fault of their own.
            Death is terrible but so is life for many many people now, I guess their misery doesn’t count.
            This isn’t life, or if it is at what cost.

          9. Nigel

            You’re not a covid denier, and of course the cure should not be worse than the disease, but the cure we got came about because we pretended there would never be a disease despite being repeatedly warned there would. Ignoring it just the cure worse.

            We weren’t prepared. Not preparing makes things worse.

          10. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            well it needs to end,
            and so does the rotten state of health care,
            now and for the next time because this is unsustainable and causing massive damage…long term massive damage

          11. SOQ

            I wouldn’t bother Janet, Nigel Knows best- Nigel always knows best.

            It is always the way that those who are impacted least- know best.

          12. Nigel

            But to do that, you have to prepare for what the experts tell us is coming. You have to prepare systematically. And now you have two forces working against it: people in power who reject systemic change because it empowers people who aren’t rich and powerful, and people who reject the reality of pandemics or climate change and claim any preparations for either are a form of conspiratorial tyranny.

            Neither are doing the people you’re talking about any favours.

        2. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

          isn’t your responsabilité to protect yourself, does personal responsibility still exist

          1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            I’m not referring to vulnerable children but older people like my parents or me who is close to them will continue to be careful, anyway wasn’t that the whole point of the vaccine ?

          2. Nigel

            In the context of a highly contagious airborne virus? That’s a Victorian era conception of personal responsibility.

            But the argument has been that the virus is only dangerous to a supposedly tiny minority, so the pandemic response should only focus on them. So here we are: what should that look like now that we are opening up and the virus is everywhere?

          3. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            and I call bull on that, the scale of damage and dept to society as a whole has barely begun to show it’s face,
            call me Victorian all you like, I also believe in discipline and respect and love things coated in aspic

          4. Mr.T

            Nigel, our expert panel of scientific advisors think its safe to remove restrictions – why dont you agree?

            Don’t you “Trust the Science™”?

          5. Nigel

            Janet I think a full scale pandemic with no measures taken would have wreaked its own damage. Even with restrictions and vaccines it killed over two thousand of our fellow citizens in two years and made many more severely to seriously ill.

          6. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            The government taking vulnerable people out of safe hospitals and shoving them like sardines into badly equiped homes sure sped up the death of many of those fellow citizens.

          7. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            vaccination hasn’t changed the stakes ?

            what’s the shagging point then ?

            oh facilities have not been improved and supported in TWO YEARS ?

            What exactly are we paying these mouth breathers to do again that are supposed to be running the kip ?

          8. Janet, dreams of a compétant government

            you know what I’m taking tbe rest of the day off the internet, I’m just too angry.

          9. Janet, dreams of a compétant government

            I don’t like you either Johnny now go learn to spell and use a space bar or actually make any fupping sense before you comment on your betters.

          10. Nigel

            What’s stopping the stakes from changing significantly are the people, whether in or out of power, pushing back against the reality of the pandemic. Pushing to get back to normal as if we’ve learned nothing, or pushing to get back to normal because the pandemic is an evil conspiracy.

          11. johnny-ny

            20 years living paying your taxes overseas or offshore,back a wet weekend in Ireland, moaning,whinging,complaining about Ireland daily.
            Maybe you would have better services if you had contributed.
            Bon Voyage.

          12. Janet, dreams of a compétant government

            irony.. go look it up,
            three times and it’s your little Johnny

        3. Mr.T

          The vulnerable should be vaccinated, and if they wish they can wear N95s in public and take additional precautions.
          Nursing homes and hospitals should still be subject to testing for covid for visiting vulnerable patients etc – unlike the HSE who put covid positive elderly people from hospital into homes, thereby infecting vulnerable people and causing needless death. I believe the wrongful death suits are still in the courts.

          1. Nigel

            Ah, so masks do work. That’s something. Of course they work best if people who are potentially contagious wear them as well as people at risk of infection.

            And of course not all vulnerable can take the vaccine and not all vulnerable people are in care facilities

          2. Mr.T

            Masks well in excess of the bog standard cloth or surgical mask work do a degree, depending on seals etc yes.

            I imagine those vulnerable people would do exactly as they do during flu season.
            Also what vulnerable people are these who cannot take the vaccines? Example?

      2. Broadbag

        Don’t worry Bodger, we’ll all have collapsed and died on pitches or in stands nationwide, you and your wise brethren will have to run the country though, pick a ministry…

        1. E'Matty

          Pick a Ministry? Nah, mate, we’re picking houses, land and cars. Oh, that looks nice. Think I’ll have that…

          1. Broadbag

            I’m imagining that scenario and it’s quite funny in an apocalyptic way (apart from all the dead vaxxers, me included!).

    2. Nullzero

      Ah Doxxy, it’s you we’re really worried about in all this.
      You’ll have to find something else to get all high and mighty about.

        1. hmmm

          The only way idiots could be this smug is when they ignore the essential facts that undermine their smugness.

          https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/bizarro-world-researcher-calls-out-censorship-after-journal-pulls-covid-19-vaccine-adverse

          “The paper’s conclusions are not necessarily controversial. A recent Danish study concluded, for example, an elevated risk of myocarditis for young people following the Moderna COVID vaccine.

          It’s common, however, even for papers that examine potential issues with the vaccines to frame their results in a way that still endorses vaccination.

          “That’s what you have to say to get your work published these days,” Rose said.

          Her paper did no such thing.

          […]

          In the past, 50 reports of deaths in VAERS would prompt authorities to hit the brakes and investigate, Rose said. In her view, that should have happened with the COVID-19 vaccines a year ago.

          Not only has that not happened, but it isn’t even clear what would be enough to convince the authorities to do so.

          “What’s the cut-off number for the number of deaths?” Rose asked.

          The counterargument is that the vaccines save more lives than they cost. But in Rose’s view, this logic is flawed since the vaccines haven’t been around long enough and studied thoroughly enough to tell how many lives they may cost.”

          1. Broadbag

            ”The only way idiots could be this smug is when they ignore the essential facts that undermine their smugness.”

            The irony of this post is too much, I need a sit down.

          2. SOQ

            Narcissists don’t care about how many get sick or die hmmm- as long as they can sneer and feel superior, that is all that matters.

        2. E'Matty

          Daisy, you and the rest of the herd animals were cheerleading vaccine mandates, denying medical treatment to the unvaccinated, and generally treating the unvaccinated like lepers in society, just two weeks ago. Now, the threat is so utterly pathetically low, as it was then, that NPHET and Co see they’ve lost the narrative and country. Full capitulation they’ve opted for to try save face.

          1. Nigel

            The thing is you guys lost the argument – that we shouldn’t respond as a society to the pandemic – and you kept losing it for two years, and if a deadly variant emerges in the coming months, touch wood, you’ll lose it again. You lost it so decisively that you invented a rationale to justify losing – that the lockdowns and restrictions were an authoritarian power grab which would never be lifted once in place, when everyone could clearly see the politicians were desperate to lift them. And now that the are lifting them, as quickly as they can the only way to resolve the contradiction is to call it a capitulation, though to whom and over what is unclear. ‘Lost the narrative.’ You are telling yourself a story.

          2. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

            no one said we shouldn’t respond as a society, we have and the road to hell is paved with good intentions,
            I’d like to have seen the government respond as capable leaders because that’s not what happened.

          3. Nigel

            Janet every conspiracy monger here opposes responding as a society, and the middle of a crisis is always the worst time to regret electing fools into power.

        3. Nullzero

          Well at least your attempts at burns remain unremarkable.
          Keep swinging, you might land one eventually.

  2. Andy Pipkin

    When in the name of Jebbas will Dee cop on that RTÉ is an utter sham of a business model!! You can’t be paying out more then you’re taking in and be paying that kinda wages too, let’s be honest, people who are easily replaceable ( at a decent rate)

    They make so much from the license fee plus the revenue from advertising, which they are incredibly expensive on TV and radio and then almost all their shows are sponsored by a big name!

    A full break down of wages for Dee and Tubs right down to the money that’s spent on the two concert orchestras who still charge for tickets for any of their shows. Plus what they’re changing for advertising on RTÉ 2 (the R stands for repeat!)

    Any other business they’d have been shut down years ago (think of Gerry Ryans wages!!!) but as long as they say the right thing that the government tells them too say it won’t change!!

    Best of luck Dee, but you’re not getting a penney from me, I’d rather do time than pay you a dime!
    As long as I have Broadsheet that’ll do me fine!

  3. Verbatim

    The same Andrew McGinley who was dropped from appearing on Late Late show recently creating a hullabaloo. RTE must have got the memo that he and his wife (the person who killed the children) were suing the HSE (negligence). It’s no wonder her family contacted RTE before he went on, they didn’t want him saying anything that might have prejudiced their cause, hard not to see $ signs.

    1. The Millie Obnoxious™

      That’s a nasty, cynical comment.

      Three children died. Somehow, I don’t think this is about money.

        1. The Millie Obnoxious™

          I’m aware of the story, thanks.

          And I’m not the one implying that a man who lost his three children is using their deaths to wring money from the HSE. I think we can safely leave the description of nasty at your door.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        Gay Byrne 20 October 1984 Late Late Show
        He told Gay that he can refer to him as ‘Meat’ or ‘Mister Loaf’

  4. TenPin Terry

    Today’s cringefest comes courtesy of former Commons speaker John Bercow – the only person to occupy that position and not be automatically awarded a peerage on his retirement.
    The vertically-challenged odious creep – who made up for his short stature by being found guilty of bullying staff by a parliamentary inquiry – is now doing cameos for anonymous crypto accounts telling traders not to sell the dip.
    Man, this one’s a toe-curler.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CryptoBoole/status/1484180838866571264

    1. bisted

      …talking about automatic awards…bet Bungling Boris regrets not giving a gong to David Davies for his marvellous stonewalling with brexit…Frosty wasn’t a wet weekend in the job before he got his lordship…then the ingrate scarpered…

    2. Duncan Wheeler

      Vile body and probably the most partisan bore of a speaker of the house ever, if carbsberg made speakers of houses he wouldn’t be it.

    3. Duncan Wheeler

      The US banging their miserable diversionary warmonger drum yet again. Let’s hope their ineptitude leads this dangerous nonsense to nothing, which is the content of let’s go Brandon’ rapidly disintigrating mind/head.

  5. U N M U T U A L

    Game, set and match?

    Rio Tinto shares slump as Serbia pulls plug on its $2.4 bln lithium project

    MELBOURNE, Jan 21 (Reuters) – Shares in Rio Tinto tumbled on Friday after Serbia revoked its lithium exploration licences over environmental concerns, hurting the Anglo-Australian miner’s ambition to become Europe’s largest supplier of the metal used in electric vehicles.

    The decision by Serbia comes as it approaches a general election in April, and as relations between Belgrade and Canberra have soured after Sunday’s deportation of tennis star Novak Djokovic from Australia over its COVID-19 entry rules.

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/rio-tinto-shares-take-hit-serbia-pulls-plug-24-bln-lithium-project-2022-01-21/

    1. SOQ

      Djokovic is worth at least 150 mil and his father is absolutely gorgeous.

      I need to see more of Daddy.

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