193 thoughts on “Sunday’s Papers

  1. stephen moran

    Somebody has just had their Sunday lie-in ruined.
    Iranian news agencies confirm that six long-range ballistic missiles were fired at the U.S. Consulate in Erbil, Iraq. The U.S. Embassy compound is now on fire. According to preliminary reports, the missile attack on Erbil came from Iranian territory. Six Fateh-110 missiles were launched in the direction of Erbil, presumably from the Khasabad base in Tabriz, Iran.

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1502786768415907849

    1. TenPin Terry

      By jove what a glorious Sunday morning to wake up to.
      The sun is shining, the parrots are sqwuaking in the trees and Lady TenPin has just returned from her early morning yoga class with coffee and fresh croissants for brekker.
      Later we shall stroll up the coast for a long, boozy lunch at a little fish place we know overlooking a gorgeous secluded bay.
      Of course we know how lucky we are as the poor people of Ukraine face impending disaster.
      But we’re also comforted by the brave resilience and human spirit shown by them – none more so than with this wonderful video from Odessa and the haunting version of the Choir of the Hebrew Slaves from Verdi’s Nabucco.
      Spine-tingling stuff.
      We shall raise a glass of ice-cold Chardonnay in support of them later.
      Marvellous™

      https://mobile.twitter.com/createstreets/status/1502774274913939465

      1. GiggidyGoo

        Walter Mitty in fine fettle today. The Sure Have Inferiority Troubles at a respectable 50%.

          1. Mad

            Ha.

            The main thing is that we won the rugby, you can’t buy a run in cricket, and your fascist reactionary Home Secretary had to do an about turn

          2. TenPin Terry

            I didn’t watch the rugger but from reading the Irish Times it sounds like Ireland struggled against a 14-man England team.
            The Irish team is currently in its traditional pre-world cup bombastic phase before assuming its serial chokers tag when the actual tournament begins – but don’t worry, we’ll bail you out next week by beating the French.
            As for the cricket old sport you wrote earlier that even Ireland could beat the Windies.
            Ireland have only played three test matches – Pakistan, Afghanistan and England – and have yet to win one.

            * Afghanistan …sniggers …*

            NB – Your comments about Priti Patel are shoddy.
            Stay classy.

          3. benblack

            You didn’t watch the rugger is either untrue or you are a troll supreme.

            All hail the Supreme Troll.

            FFS, they were right about you – and to think that I defended you believing you were being bullied by nasty people.

            Those people are still nasty, however, you’ve been exposed as a fraud.

            Tenuous Terry.

          4. TenPin Terry

            Believe it or not old sport rugger is not that popular in these parts – baseball and NFL rule here.
            I kept up to speed on Flashscore.
            But it’s very sweet of you to imagine I needed your support against some of the oiks on here – however I think I can manage to clear out the deadwood on my own.

          5. Mad

            The “NFL” season is long over, moron.

            “ England failed to pass 300 once in 10 innings in the Ashes, after which director of cricket Ashley Giles, head coach Chris Silverwood and batting coach Graham Thorpe all left their roles.”

          6. Mad

            The English media heralded a heroic defeat across their sports pages on Sunday, following Ireland’s 32-15 victory at Twickenham. Expectations over the water appear to have dropped dramatically after five defeats in their last nine Six Nations matches – the latest of which a record Irish win on English soil.

            Remember Crimean War? Anyone?

          7. benblack

            No internet ‘over there’ either, old chap?

            On your bike – you can pick it up by the Floozy in the Jacuzzi.

          1. TenPin Terry

            Under the palm trees in the garden of a nearby hotel.
            Lady TenPin still fits her leotard rather well.
            And supple ? Oh.My.Word.
            Lunch is over here and just about to take a snooze on the beach.
            The enterprising local beach lads even deliver a ready-rolled blunt with your gin and tonton.
            Lazy Sunday afternoon as the song goes.
            Marvellous™

    2. SOQ

      IMO- the demilitarisation of broadsheet.ie is to be welcomed- especially those of one foreign number and two letters.

      Let’s start tomorrow morning- by asking where everyone is from?

    1. MaryLou's ArmaLite

      I hear they were Sunderland supporters, keeping them alive would be the cruelest of punishments.

  2. f_lawless

    Remarkable clip of Pfizer’s CEO, Albert Bourla, responding to the question of why his company decided to go the mRNA route. A lot of distancing language in there: “I was surprised when they suggested to me” “I questioned it.” “How can you justify something like that?” “they were very, very convinced” “they convinced me.. they know what they are saying”.

    It’s evident that Bourla wants to make clear the distinction between himself and whoever “they” are who pushed the mRNA technology. Hardy inspires confidence.
    https://twitter.com/akheriaty/status/1502741930005868547


    Interviewer:
    You wrote that “it was most counter-intuitive to go down the mRNA route” [rather than the traditional vaccine route]. Explain why.

    Bourla:
    It was counter-intuitive because Pfizer was mastering, or let’s say, had very good experience with, multiple technologies that could give a vaccine. The mRNA technology was the one we had less experience with – only 2 years – and actually mRNA was a technology that never delivered a single product until that day. Not a vaccine, not any other medicine.

    So, ehh, it was very counter-intuitive and I was surprised when they suggested to me that this was the way to go. And I questioned it. I asked them to justify, how can you say something like that?

    But they came and they were very, very convinced that this is the right way to go. They felt that the two years of work on mRNA since 2018, together with BioNTech, to develop a flu vaccine made them believe that the technology is mature and that we are on the cusp of delivering a product…ehmmm..so they convinced me. I followed my instincts that they know what they are saying, [that] they’re very good, and ehhhh we made this very difficult decision about that.”

    1. Micko

      “and actually mRNA was a technology that never delivered a single product until that day. Not a vaccine, not any other medicine.”

      Oh good…

    1. Spud

      We’re not doing a similar scheme, are we?
      I dread to think if we are as many scalpers often seen on Daft may staff offering their sheds…
      At least the accomodation is vetted I guess.

    2. scottser

      Ah poor Patel, don’t be picking on her, she’s run ragged ignoring all those visa requests from the Ukraine.

    1. Mad

      He’s a lot braver than any of us.
      The thing about Brave Sir Robin is that he wasn’t very brave at all, a bit like useless idiots playing God in the Int-all-wet

      1. Vlad X. Novichok

        Toady Choad hot for Putin boner snot knocking one out at the thought of dead Ukrainian babies and their mammies.

          1. Vlad X. Novichok

            You’d know given your penchant for Putin boner snot. You Toady Choads can’t get enough of it – the more dead babies, the hotter for Putin boner snot you get.

    1. jonjoker

      In these days of propaganda, more propaganda and even outright lies – how do we know there is anyone under that pile of earth?
      Obviously, I sincerely hope there is nobody there, but this photo actually proves nothing.

      1. Fearganainm

        People are dying and are being buried, some in mass graves, some, as in this case, in the yard of a residential block, just beside the car park. A cemetery funeral isn’t always possible. The deaths and – hopefully temporary – resting place of the mother and son mentioned above have been widely reported on in Ukraine. Why, of all the hundreds of deaths, should their deaths be ‘fake’? There are other families who have lost multiple members too.

        https://twitter.com/alexmazuka/status/1502767174318010371

        1. Fearganainm

          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNvKiluXoAAdNaf?format=jpg&name=medium

          I can recall when the USA illegally attacked Iraq and Al Jazeera was subjected to American outrage for publishing photographs and footage of the smashed corpses of Iraqi men, women and children smeared across the streets. Apparently pictures of pumped up American soldiers with their shiny kit were OK but images of the reality of war were objectionable.

          Maybe some people are having a similar reaction when confronted with some of the outcomes of Putin’s illegal attack on Ukraine.

  3. Fearganainm

    ‘We’re heading towards a war economy,’ Martin warns

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/were-heading-towards-a-war-economy-martin-warns-41440947.html

    Ireland is heading toward being in a “war economy”, with the Russian invasion of Ukraine set to drive up the cost of food and many other everyday items, the Taoiseach warned yesterday. Micheál Martin could not rule out the possibility of shortages of some food items as he said the war will impact on Ireland, “particularly in terms of prices of many products”…

    1. Duncan Wheeler

      Nothing to do with the crazy printing of money with no way to repay it. That has nothing to do with runaway inflation. Of course not. Couldn’t happen ‘cos we will never ‘pay’ it back, nobody else will either. Economists selling this line should be embarrassed.

    1. Mad

      That’s the stuff-at least your political posts are local, with added cuteness and almost completely irrelevant

      1. GiggidyGoo

        Charger must be really mad this morning. A touch of the cider hangover no doubt in his stench-filled bedsit. Go over and offer your condolences on the demise of the England rugby team. Ha haaaa.

        1. Mad

          I’d say he lives in a council house.
          He’s over here giving out about how crap the country is meanwhile sucking its’ teats dry.

        2. Mad

          They only got a draw in the cricket against the West Indies FFS – sure we’d beat them! And there they are claiming it as a victory! Crimean War anyone?

          England in West Indies: First Test draw is a ‘huge step forward’ says captain Joe Root

          And the women got annihilated as well the other day

  4. Verbatim

    “Germany Deserves a Big Share of the Blame for the Ukraine Disaster
    The US could end this conflict quickly by simply announcing that it will honor the promise made to General Secretary Gorbachev 32 years ago, and will not ever admit Ukraine into NATO, nor seek to put US troops, weapons or nuclear arms in Ukraine.

    But if the US won’t do the right thing to stop the bloodshed, Germany should have the integrity and self-confidence to do it: Just announce that the German government wants to honor the promise made that allowed for the smooth reunification of the country that a half-century earlier created such death and destruction across the whole European continent and that it vows never to approve another NATO member state.
    If the German government won’t make this promise, the German people should demand it.”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/11/germany-deserves-a-big-share-of-the-blame-for-the-ukraine-disaster/

    You come away after reading this article thinking, wow, is it really this simple?

    1. Nigel

      The only way countries in the West are responsible for Ukraine is because they didn’t stand up to Putin and put the brakes on oligarch money flowing into their countries and their politics decades ago.

      1. Cato

        You are ignoring the factorial evidence. It is not the ONLY way the West is responsible at all. Mad Dog Putin has been insulted, goaded, isolated and provoked by the West. The West could have done far more to manage him more effectively, to not provoke an existential crisis for Russia by constantly threatening NATO expansion, by not allowing Kolomoyskyi and his Zelenskiy puppet regime to continually goad Putler etc, etc.

        1. Nigel

          If Putin is a mad dog, then anything and everything the West does can goad or provoke him, and enabling him to act without consequences is just as bad. I don’t think he is a mad dog, by the way, he’s an ex-spook gangster who happens to be in charge of a country with nuclear weapons, but categorising him as a mad dog makes the West less responsible for his actions, since mad dogs cannot be controlled, and he is Russia’s mad dog, not theirs, which makes Russia responsible.

          1. Cato

            Latching onto one (admittedly poorly-chosen) adjective and rambling on about that and ignoring the meat of the comment does not further the discussion.
            An excerpt from The Guardian:
            “At the same time, Putin and his circle had come to see Nato as an offensive alliance and a threat. When its planes bombed Russia’s ally Yugoslavia in 1999, it was not a defensive act, in Moscow’s eyes, as no Nato member had been attacked.
            In 2002, George W Bush withdrew the US from the anti-ballistic missile (ABM) treaty with Russia, deepening suspicions about US motives. And the Kremlin was convinced western hands orchestrated the Rose revolution in Georgia in 2003 and the Orange revolution in Ukraine the following year, further undermining Moscow’s sway in what was once the Soviet Union.
            The belief that those uprisings were western plots was reinforced by the Nato decision during the alliance’s 2008 summit in Bucharest to open the door to membership to both Ukraine and Georgia.
            Putin thought that in return for cooperating with the US in Afghanistan, the US would recognise that Russia was a great power with a right to a sphere of influence in the post-Soviet space. Instead he got withdrawal from the ABM treaty, he got the colour revolutions and the Iraq war,” Stent said. “I think by 2007, he was thoroughly soured by his experiences with the west, and that’s also when he started harbouring these territorial designs.
            The Nato-led intervention in Libya in 2011 led to another sharp downward turn in Russia’s descent towards isolation. Moscow felt tricked into voting for a UN resolution that approved “all necessary measures” to protect Libyan civilians, a move broadly interpreted by the US and its European allies as a mandate for regime change. Putin is said to have repeatedly watched video footage of the murder of Muammar Gaddafi by a vengeful mob.”

            Also, do a little research into Igor Kolomoyskiy, if you’re that interested in the destructive nature of oligarchs.

          2. Nigel

            If Putin thinks he’s entitled to a sphere of influence, but the countries within that sphere think that the only way to avoid that fate is to join NATO, then they should be allowed to join. Russia is a corrupt repressive oligarchy – countries that are democracies, however flawed, have the right to reject a future where they become more like Russia.

          3. bisted

            …even Putin detractors in Russia admit that he has been a strong leader who has restored Russia to a world power…a bit of Marxism (Groucho) for you…who would want to join a club that would have US as a member?

          4. Nigel

            ‘…even Putin detractors in Russia admit’

            It’s probably better than getting stuck in prison.

            ‘who would want to join a club that would have US as a member?’

            Former soviet bloc republics and other countries that share a border with Russia,, apparently.

          5. bisted

            …funny you should mention prison…I see the yanks are even doing that by proxy now, ask Julian Assange…the closest to the old Gulags these days are on the Cuban Archipelago…Abu Ghraib…do you still separate children from their parents and cage them?

          6. Nigel

            And yet still the countries bordering Russia prefer the West, except maybe Chechnya and Belarus, and how long do you think a Chechnyan or Belarusian Assange would survive? How long if he was gay? Why can’t Ukraine just let Putin turn them into Chechnya or Belarus, rather than whatever the West might turn them into?

            But it’s interesting to know you’re okay with Russian dissidents getting murdered or going to prison because of Abu Ghraib, and with all the millons of refugees created by Putin because of Trump’s family seperation policies.

          7. Nigel

            Sorry, I forgot that Putin under Russia is free and open and democratic, and that Chenchya and Belarus are, er, likewise.

      2. Cato

        Again, you’ve latched onto a solitary phrase. I think the “sphere of influence” was meant as a global perspective. Whether delusional or not, he felt having played ball with the West, allying with them in Afghanistan, making overtures to a further alliance between Europe and Russia but then being snubbed, humiliated and as he felt, betrayed in Yugoslavia, was all he needed to know about how the West saw Russia. It was multiple fatal failures of diplomacy.
        Now, imagine if China had a military alliance set up and bit by bit it started pulling in members throughout South America through no small assistance from their intelligence agency, agitating here, manipulating there until it had control over pretty much all of South America, armed with Chinese missiles and military bases. Imagine if the US said okay, this is too much, this is starting to feel existential, don’t push any closer to us. Imagine China then began agitating in Mexico, manipulating via propaganda, planting a puppet president (again, look up Kolomoisky, 1+1, Servant of the People, etc.) who would not rule out joining China’s military alliance. How do you think the US would react? Do you remember the Cuban Missile Crisis?

        1. Nigel

          I hate to tel you, but Europe, especially the bits near Russia, is full of soveriegn democratic states which have economic and security ties with each other and with the US, and who have every reason to regard Putin as a threat. Russia’s supposed sense of grievance and insecurity aren’t going to be overcome by turning Ukraine into a sacrifice at the altar or Putin’s ambition. Putin turned Russia into a gangster state. Expanding that gangsterism into neighboring countries is only good for gangsters. The China analogy works just as well if China is Putin, eroding democracy and trading agreements in Europe and installing repressive puppet regimes in Eastern European countries while pushing slowly westward. How should Europe and its allies respond to to that?

          1. Cato

            I hate to tell you but Ukraine has been sacrificed. And it’s not just scumbag Putin whose hands are covered in blood.
            “The China analogy works.” There, fixed that for you.

          2. Cato

            Ps, if you don’t think a gangster oligarch is running Ukraine, a fact you seem to be avoiding like Covid (on which subject I am entirely preaching from the same fact-based gospel as your learned self) then you haven’t done your homework.

          3. SOQ

            Zelenskyy is doing his part too. He released prisoners- murders and rapists- and then gave them guns, sure what could go wrong? They are now involved in gang warfare among themselves apparently- including the taking of civilians as hostages for protection.

            Combine that with an international appeal which has resulted in blood hungry psychopaths descending from all over the world without even a passport check, AND a state sponsored, NATO armed, neo Nazi battalion- all of that before the Russians even enter the equation.

          4. Nigel

            ‘And it’s not just scumbag Putin whose hands are covered in blood’

            No, in terms of this invasion, the blood is all on his hands.

            ‘if you don’t think a gangster oligarch is running Ukraine,’

            And I can understand why anyone living there would NOT want to become more like Russia rather than less.

            ‘all of that before the Russians even enter the equation.’

            The Russians entered the equation when they invaded, precipitaing many of the things you’re complaining about, assuming it isn’t just pro-war propaganda, a big assumption. I have some bad news for you about Nazis and mercenaries working for Putin. Nazis and mercenaries work for Putin. Bloodthristy psychopaths too, like that Chechnyan warlord who like to torture gay people.

    2. scottser

      Hey heres an idea – why don’t we let the people of Ukraine decide? You know, like democracy and stuff?

    3. V aka Frilly Keane

      Came across that story on Friday Verbie
      And haven’t settled since
      I’d already logged serious hours into Nord Stream
      1 and 2

      Then, FFS like,
      another BS ex, Nat King Coleslaw
      Pushed a thread into my feed last night
      On the *Telegraph’s 5million+ from Putin &Co
      And I went there. Ending up following lads not turning up for work in the Duma, ending up in Armenia

      Instead for making the most of a savage day for Sport

      That Conlon Wood fight
      Cheezuz t’night. Did ye ever see such exhaustion end a bout?
      btw if ye’re inclined, give the undercard a few rounds, and treat yerselves to another great Irish contender in the making

      * Guess who was the Telegraph ‘s highest paid Writer – even while he was Foreign Secretary

      1. Mad

        But you’re not an ex!
        Hence Nat is not another ex, he is just an ex-.
        It’s these low standards in basic copy and factual information is why you’ve never really made it as a scribe, yet people like Boris have.
        I watched him with that new lady Beth on Sky News the other day. You should pay attention to master class modules like that instead of getting distracted looking at boxing and GAA, if you are still serious about making it in Fleet Street. Watch it and take notes, write them here and I’ll give you more homework after.

        1. V aka Frilly Keane

          Yes Sir

          And when you get a chance
          I’ll take notes on the last Village piece
          – About the time Trump’s Secretary of Commerce was a director in Bank of Ireland
          Wilbur Ross – so, that should sorta suit the Broadsheet base.

          (Appointed by Michael Noonan btw so something in it for everyone to critique)

          1. Mad

            Yes fair enough well done on that one
            Can you post a link here please?
            I’ve been watching that story for a good while
            All that stuff was in Phoenix ages ago but well done for highlighting it again (genuinely)

          1. Mad

            “ England failed to pass 300 once in 10 innings in the Ashes, after which director of cricket Ashley Giles, head coach Chris Silverwood and batting coach Graham Thorpe all left their roles.”

            I’m getting weird deletions all day Annie
            Some people don’t get my 80/S pop culture references
            Scarlet for them

  5. Nigel

    Have a covid update – it’s a bit mixed:

    ‘877 people with confirmed #Covid19 in Irish hospitals this morning, an increase of 33% in the past week.
    157 new cases in the last 24 hours is highest since early January.
    However, ICU numbers have now dropped to 41, the lowest since August 12th last year.’

    ‘The HSE have told me that as of Tuesday this week (906 Covid-19 patients in hospital), just over half (458, 50.6%) were in hospital for another reason and incidentally tested positive for #Covid19.’

    https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1501873938950983684

    1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

      mixed as in good news, incidental, COVID is not their problem, probably caught it in there.

      1. Nigel

        I don’t know if it’s entirely good news that so many people going into hospital are either bringing covid with them or catching it there, since anyone going into hospital is almost by definition vulnerable. But ICU numbers are low despite case numbers and hospitalisations rising, that is good news, let’s hope it holds.

    2. Micko

      “ just over half (458, 50.6%) were in hospital for another reason and incidentally tested positive for #Covid19.’”

      I think it’s very interesting that the HSE can NOW provide a breakdown of who is in hospital because of Covid or another reason, yet this info was never freely available earlier.

      But yep, good news either way

    3. jonjoker

      “just over half (458, 50.6%) were in hospital for another reason and incidentally tested positive for #Covid19.’”

      To my eyes, this new way of reporting the Covid numbers is most interesting.
      It sort of looks like they are trying to play down the illness for some reason. I wonder what that reason could be?

      I wonder will they now give us the same breakdown going back to the beginning of the “pandemic”.

    1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

      tbh I’m having a harder and harder time caring if we are all wiped out

    2. f_lawless

      If your concern for the increasing volatility of the global climate is truly genuine then you should be calling for a an immediate de-escalation to the conflict in Ukraine as paramount irrespective of what political concessions may be won or lost by those involved. Due to the proxy nature of the conflict, there’s now very real and imminent danger of an escalation to thermonuclear war which would ravage the planet’s climate, perhaps making human life unsustainable.

      And yet you disregard this danger and mock those who think de-escalation needs to be paramount :

      Quote: “It’s a bit clueless to piously call for de-escalation when one side is fliring misslies into cities they’ve surrounded”

      Maybe you should try and see past the politics and acknowledge this reality?

      1. Nigel

        ‘calling for a an immediate de-escalation to the conflict in Ukraine’

        I’m so in favour of the conflict ending I was opposed to it beginning in the first place.

        ‘And yet you disregard this danger and mock those who think de-escalation needs to be paramount :’

        One side is the belligerent in this conflict. This conflict doesn’t de-escalate until they stop fighting and withdraw. You can’t ‘both sides’ a conflict where one side is overwhelmingly the agressor and the other are defending themselves.

        1. f_lawless

          “One side is the belligerent in this conflict. This conflict doesn’t de-escalate until they stop fighting and withdraw. You can’t ‘both sides’ a conflict where one side is overwhelmingly the agressor and the other are defending themselves.”

          This is ridiculous hyper-partisan, moral posturing. Taking the hardline stance of no de-escalation until Russia stops and withdraws, inevitably means a continued escalation, more lives lost and a potential for nuclear war.

          But the point you’re not getting is that if you truly believe that the current state of the global climate is the paramount issue above all else that’s going on in the world, and accept that on the current trajectory of this conflict there’s a very real and imminent danger of a thermonuclear war being triggered, then you should move beyond thinking only in terms of sides. You should try to see beyond your partisan views for now and accept that, for the sake of life on this planet, a Realpolitik-type approach offers the best hope in reducing this current threat.

          Otherwise. you’re in danger of being deemed a bit of a phoney climate protection advocate who’ll sideline their supposed ideals whenever it comes into conflict with their political biases.

          1. Nigel

            If you can suggest some way of persuading the Ukrainians who have been invaded to lay down their arms while Russia is still shelling them and occupying their country, I’m all ears. The fact of the matter is, realpolitik-wise, so long as Putin confines himself to Ukraine this war is unlikely to escalate, and if he doesn’t withdraw it will turn into a long, ugly insurgency. Even chemical attacks on civilans are unlikely to draw a military response from the west, but Russia will become more of a pariah state. None of that will be good for the environment, but the best way to avoid it would be for Putin never to have started it in the first place

  6. ce

    Johnny”Thanks for the bailout” Ronan in new debt issues… almost like he knows what he’s doing… what a business man…

    1. johnny

      FFG and NAMA were well aware that Ronan’s sugar daddy was too ‘Hollywood’,that’s not a compliment, for a vitally important state asset like the Glass Bottle Site,argubly one the most import and valuable, urban renewal projects in the EU.
      FFG/NAMA’s decision in the face of viable alternatives is negligent,that valuable state asset is now embroiled in this dog dinner of a real estate developers,debt spiral and mess.
      Those 3,500 badly need Irish homes are not going build themselves,ain’t that right Andriy.

  7. Hughie Luas

    Vogue Williams and the other one went down a bomb on Tommy Tiernan last night. She sells washing up powder or something.

  8. Hughie Luas

    “Journal Fact-Check”

    Is there a local lad deeply conflicted every Sunday morning over dividing time between giving Brendan O’Connor on RTE a snarky savaging on Twitter by using the word “Ballsy”, and posting contrived Anti-Vax “don’t follow the sheeple” delusions and “see both sides” pro-Putin comments on Broadsheet?

    Yes.

    1. Cato

      I think anyone who still gives Beefy O’Connor a pasting for his “ballsy” column is deserving of praise.

    1. Nigel

      ‘First, it influenced elections.’

      Ah, so now state actors CAN use tech to influence elections. Looking forward to you guys revisiting Brexit and Trump with this in mind.

      If you’re describing tech platforms as battlefields you’ve conceded the idea that states have the right to protect themselves from hostile actors on those platforms. Personally I could be quite happy if future wars were confined to tech platforms. I expect the death toll would be kept quite low that way.

      1. bisted

        …now Nigel…we all know that Brexit and Trump occurred because people opposing these outcomes believed the opinion polls and didn’t bother voting…sometimes democracy can give the ‘wrong’ result…

        1. Nigel

          Oh, now, you can stop pretending you care about democracy. That’s not the sort of society we’ll get when we’re all ruled by Putins.

          1. Nigel

            To be honest, I’m not even sure YOU watched it. Why are you mad that Russia is losing the information war?

          2. GiggidyGoo

            If you read up on the subject you might display some semblance of intelligence Nigel. As it is, you crash and burn day in / day out.

          3. GiggidyGoo

            If I was looking, then you wouldn’t be the tastiest morsel. Crash and burn there Nigel.
            Read up now like a good fellow.

          4. SOQ

            I support the current thing- aaaaand just like that, BLM supporters are all in for the 4th Reich.

          5. Nigel

            Ukraine has to be wiped out because it’s the fourth reich? No wonder you’re losing the information war.

          6. Nigel

            If you become a casualty in the information war, Giggidy won’t pick your carcass clean. They only have beady vulture eyes for me.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        That’s the amount that a particular Modular ‘home’ manufacturer has told him then? It’s never ‘millions’ these days. The Irish Oligarch must be fed once again, and ‘Billions’ is now the word. And the State will have to get a loan as usual, to finance him.

    1. SOQ

      Nobody as an opinion on that the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are guilty of fraud?

      Weird.

    1. Fearganainm

      Yeah, there was a guy on here recently who tried to pass off an old clip filmed in Austria and broadcast on German TV – he tried to pretend it was footage from Ukraine. How pathetic is that? Deliberate deceitfulness and a crude attempt at manipulation via fake propaganda.

      Oh wait…it was you.

  9. SOQ

    Emergency Room Doctor: I Apologize To Great Barrington Declaration Proponents, You Guys Were Correct

    Dr. Joseph Fraiman criticized COVID-19 mitigation efforts and said society has to question if we want a public policy that is “obviously producing large harm and offering only a minimal benefit at best.”

    In a Zoom session with the authors, Dr Fraiman apologized for criticizing proponents of the Great Barrington Declaration and said he hopes other doctors realize they made a mistake. Dr. Joseph Fraiman is an Emergency Medicine Physician based in Louisiana.

    “The reality is hospitalizations and deaths were not reduced by 20% by any policies,” Fraiman said. “Because if they were we would have had studies at this point that would have consistently identified that. And that just has not occurred at all.”

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/iZzFossdMcoS/

    An apology by the usual broadsheet.ie spinners will be forthcoming soon I imagine. Oh- and the account which first tweeted about this story- @MichaelPSenger- is now suspended.

    1. Nigel

      Does that mean it hasn’t been properly sourced?

      If it has, that’s one ER doctor down, thousands and thousands more to go.

  10. SailorGerry

    I recall posting a link to what looked like genuine Ukrainian propaganda to me; I did not verify it or claim it’s origin was beyond doubt.

    As was pointed out, it was from a different source, much like the pro Ukrainian photos are today we see in the news.

    I am an individual with limited time resources, mistakes happen, not very often, and that is not a deceit.

    Deceit is deliberate, and that would be when news agencies with global resources, broadcast lies on a massive scale, that would be deceit, but that would not be of interest to you I guess.

    Give it another few weeks and I will try to find some genuine grim pictures of the demise of the Azov battalion, as it ceases to be a force of evil.

    May God bless President Putin and his brave soldiers as they rid Ukraine of Bandarites.

    There you go Fearg, some more material for you to get worked up about.

    1. Fearganainm

      I don’t get worked up by your fakery, I laugh at it.

      That should give you some idea of how effective your propaganda is.

    2. SOQ

      Azov are the first Ukrainian army battalion to receive NATO bits and bobs apparently. They’d not be the first to be putting their feet up and havin a hot chocolate.

        1. bisted

          …I thought you zionists called it something different…a euphemism perhaps…something like Herman pete?

          1. Nigel

            ‘you zionists’

            I’m pro Nazi and a zionist, apparenlty. Or as Putin like to call them, Zionazis, the real masterminds of the Holocaust, which didn’t kill Jews, only Christians. According to Putin. More phosporous for the evil Zionazis hiding in cities and trying to escape along humaitarian corridors.

      1. ce

        “Azov are the first Ukrainian army battalion to receive NATO bits and bobs apparently.”… but in reality they are total defenseless and vulnerable without a very long table…

        1. SOQ

          Ok so- you are Nigel under a different name- nothing to say but plenty of words to say it in.

  11. SailorGerry

    Azov and Aidar both armed to the teeth as you point out by NATO are not an easy nut to crack, but they will both put their feet up when they have a dirt nap.

    You would be surprised what one man can do….

    Look at that repulsive creature from Coventry in the UK that ran the “Syrian Observatory of Human Rights”, one man working in a T shirts shop. Obviously well funded and supported by MI6, the go to source for the media shills for years on the US orchestrated demolition of Syria.

    https://theantimedia.com/media-syrian-source-t-shirt-shop/

        1. SOQ

          Azov are Ukraine state sponsored NATO equipped neo NAZIS- feel free to fill me in on what I am missing?

          1. Fearganainm

            A part of your brain and an ounce of integrity and human decency.

            That’ll be €1,250 for the remote consultation.

    1. SOQ

      You will obviously rush to explain why Macron refused a PCR test before meeting Putin at said long table ce?

      1. stephen moran

        Maybe he didn’t fancy Putra getting his unshaken grubby paws on his DNA. Bit like the leader of the workers paradise (and chum of grifter in chief and serial loser Trump’s) leather clad Kimmie who brings a portable bog whenever he’s on tour .

        1. V aka Frilly Keane

          The link was posted as a ‘folly the Iona money’

          I’m talking
          Director’s renumeration, expenses and or loan accounts
          Also if any of them are director shareholders
          Or Directors of other organisations
          And – if we’re invited to folly the money
          What property or other assets does the organisation own
          Have they investments or guarantees
          What about contingent liabilities – like are they being sued
          Or are they expecting a windfall – in a contingent liability

          Loads of wonderful stuff can be dug out of annual accounts
          Like cash on hand

          Well?

          1. V aka Frilly Keane

            Except that’s not obvious in your link

            Here
            89.6% of their total income for the year came from everyday bog standard donations
            Circa 20k /11.5% via Revenue charitable donations blah blah rebate

            Suggests income from dodgy overseas creepy anti everything set ups but not valued or specific
            But then
            The Iona Instit being linked to foreign creepy anti everything set ups isn’t news

            Pretty sure they’re very careful on how they manage donations tbh
            And especially who they take money from
            AML sanctions would finish them off

  12. Fearganainm

    Russian Orthodox church in Amsterdam announces split with Moscow

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/13/russian-orthodox-church-in-amsterdam-announces-split-with-moscow

    “…The head of the Russian Orthodox church, Patriarch Kirill, a trusted ally of Vladimir Putin, has declined to condemn the Kremlin’s decision to invade its neighbour, referring to Russia’s opponents in Ukraine as “evil forces”. In a Sunday sermon last week he also said gay pride parades organised in the west were part of the reason for the war in Ukraine…”

  13. stephen moran

    Russia has asked China for military equipment to support its invasion of Ukraine – FT. That should get Jake Sullivan jumping up and down – Looks like Putra who is no Frank Muir is playing call my bluff with Xi. If think maybe the banker Xi will suspect Putra has a pair of deuces and no aces up his sleeve given the way this busted flush has played his hand at the top table thus far. I wonder what King Kenny Rogers would think given he once was paid $1 million to sing The Gambler at a Gazprom bash. He is said to have called it a night after the 15th encore. More innocent times. I think they got Deep Purple one year as well for their Xmas do – plenty of Smoke on the Water (fire in the sky) down Ukraine way currently

  14. jonjoker

    I see the Sunday Mirror has discovered 100,000 orphans in Ukraine. No concerns about them last week, but now all of a sudden they are news.
    What does an orphan have to do to becomes news?

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