Still All Up In Your Grill

at

HSE CEO Paul Reid

This morning.

Let it go, Paul.

Meanwhile…

This morning.

…via RTÉ News:

The Taoiseach has said he did not believe that making it mandatory to wear a mask indoors would change the current Covid-19 situation.

Organisations representing doctors and nurses have called on the Government to reintroduce some measures to tackle the spread of Covid-19.

The Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation and the Irish Association for Emergency Medicine have called on ministers to revisit measures such as wearing masks indoors and in congregated settings and working from home.

Speaking on RTÉ’s Today with Claire Byrne, Micheál Martin said the Government is guided by public health advice in relation to Covid-19 and he has been in touch with the Chief Medical Officer

…Mr Martin said the country is in a new phase of Covid-19 and the guidance remains to wear a mask.

However he added that the return of restrictions is not justified.

Return of Covid restrictions not justified, Taoiseach says (RTE)

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61 thoughts on “Still All Up In Your Grill

  1. SOQ

    Given the crazy queues of very close proximity people at Dublin Airport- would the HSE not be better off taking steps to ensure such does not occur?

    As I am now acting in a HSE advisory consultant role- that will be €2645 for my ten minutes work please.

    1. Dinkum

      And it’s about common sense .
      This is not a problem of the uneducated peasants it’s a case of idiots of all levels of intelligence.
      Take the rugby international the other week.
      Packed in like sardines and the camera hones in Micky Dee and Sabina maskless and like presidential sardines,within a whole stadium of untested supporters all maskless.
      Seems between the pair of them no cop on ,just like the rest of them,then of course into the pubs,then home to their families.
      Maybe they thought cop on was a security detail for VIPs .

    2. Kim The Cardassian

      Someone was ranting during the latter stage of the pandemic about a taxi they got after a night out and the driver wasn’t wearing a mask. He wasn’t too pleased when I pointed to him that he had just spent the guts of 3 hours in some busy pub in the city centre without a mask but felt obliged to rant about an unmasked taxi driver during a 20 minute journey. FFS.

  2. Broadbag

    No more restrictions? Boooo! But whatabout The Cabal or the new WEF Order or some other guff?

    1. E'Matty

      That agenda continues unabated. Digital IDs will remain on the agenda, and at present they are working on the “By 2030 you will own nothing” part, or did you just think high inflation, high energy costs, high food costs etc..were just happening by coincidence? Watch as the cost of living rises dramatically, your wages fail to keep up, and your wealth diminishes as your savings plummet in value and your mortgage costs rocket with interest rate rises. But you keep being you. One consoling element of all of this is knowing how screwed your kind are going to be. This decade is going to be quite the experience, and the cattle minded like yourself, are going to be chewed up completely. Enjoy!

      1. Ian - oG

        By 2030 I will have fully paid off all the mortgage on my house.

        Do you think they will have taken it away from me then?

        1. jonjoker

          Nah, you’ll be allowed to stay there.
          But if you have more than one kid, they’ll find it hard to buy place to live, in the least-densely populated country in Europe outside the Baltic.

    2. K.Cavan

      That’s right, Broadbag, it’s like the last two years never happened. Since it didn’t happen, nothing like it could ever happen again, right? Perhaps the food & fuel shortages & ensuing rationing we’ve just had imposed on us for no good reason whatsoever might be leveraged to introduce the Digital ID & CBDCs the EU is so fanatic about?
      Conspiracy Theories, eh?
      Keep taking the boosters, lad & soon your worries will be over.

      1. Broadbag

        ”Perhaps the food & fuel shortages & ensuing rationing we’ve just had imposed on us for no good reason whatsoever might be leveraged to introduce the Digital ID & CBDCs the EU is so fanatic about?”

        Leveraged how? Get this ID implant or no gruel for you, type of thing?
        Surely there’ll be plenty of food & fuel for all you ‘pure bloods’ once we ‘vaxxed’ start dropping like flies, it seems like your conspiracy streams might cancel each other out – what then, dream up a new one?

      2. jonjoker

        Belgian Professor of Psychology Mattias Desmet has become quite an internet phenomenon. He discusses totalitarianism, with its roots in mass formation. He names the conditions required –
        1 An overall sense of loneliness and lack of social connections and bonds
        2 A lack of meaning—unsatisfying “bullsh*t jobs” that don’t offer purpose
        3 Free-floating anxiety and discontent that arise from loneliness and lack of meaning
        4 Manifestation of frustration and aggression from anxiety
        5 Emergence of a consistent narrative from government officials, mass media, etc., that exploits and channels frustration and anxiety

        Looking at no 3, Free-floating anxiety, he discusses this in relation to the global response to Covid. While that aspect has since been relaxed to a degree in relation to Covid, in the Western world it has effectively just transitioned into the Ukraine war.

        But I would go further – I would question whether free-floating anxiety has not been carefully nurtured for years now.
        In Ireland, we have had twenty years or more of a difficult housing market – which is something that could be easily fixed – witness the almost 100,000 dwellings completed annually during the period before the crash of 2008. Surely nobody in their right mind is going to argue that someone who can & does pay their rent (i.e. the cost of their home plus profit to the bank plus profit to the landlord) is incapable of servicing a mortgage?

      3. jonjoker

        But there is another aspect that I feel needs to be looked at, and it is global warming aka climate change.
        Of course, the climate is changing, but then again it always has. The human race may well be responsible for some or even all of the current changes – but I would argue that the guilt trip laid on each and every one of us is another leading cause of free-floating anxiety, and has been for well over a decade.
        Doubtless some of you can add other causes. In fact, please do!

        1. Nigel

          ‘but then again it always has’

          If this is what you think climate change is, as the term is currently used, then you do not know what climate change is.

          ‘but I would argue that the guilt trip laid on each and every one of us is another leading cause of free-floating anxiety’

          I disagree. The lack of serious action on climate change is what is causing anxiety. Guiilt may well be in the mix, but it’s a fairly crowded cocktail of toxic emotions, but it’s an entirely predictable response to inaction in the face of impending disaster.

          1. jonjoker

            I see you’ve just ignored my disclaimer:
            “The human race may well be responsible for some or even all of the current changes”

            As you also ignored my concern about the creation of anxiety in our society.

            Sad indeed Niggle, but it seems to be your modus operandi.

          2. Nigel

            You’re right, I did, sorry about that, but the science of human causation of current climate change is largely settled.

            I share your concern! I just disagree slightly about the source.

    3. f_lawless

      @Broadbag
      My interpretation is this: the measures imposed that have been upon populations around the world over the last two years, such as lockdown, masks, digital health passports, plus the stated mission to “vaccine the whole world”, were never based on sound science. They were top-down diktats from technocratic elites, designed to lay the infrastructure for a new financial/ surveillance system that is totalitarian in nature (digital health pass), kill off the current global financial system (lockdowns) which is already on the verge of collapse, and manufacture citizens’ compliance (eg masks) in the process of doing so.

      I would imagine the Irish government have known this all along Then a decision was made by the Davos crowd at some point in the more recent future to pivot to war as the new catalyst to bring about their new system. It’s becoming increasingly evident that he mRNA vaccines are failing to deliver – there’s only so long fraudulent statistics can hide that – and SARS-Cov-2 has been apparently fading somewhat. I think that’s why the Irish government are no longer showing interest in imposing these self-destructive mandates. They want to move away from them now the pivot to war has happened. I don’t buy Martin’s guff that the latest variant is somehow uniquely different to the previous ones; so transmissible that the measures are almost useless in stopping transmission. It’s always been that way.

      In Broadsheet comment sections, as far back as summer 2020, myself and others began relaying the informed opinions of those who were warning that the end goal in regards to the Covid measures was to institute a digital system of surveillance and control upon the wider world. Cut to March 2022 and the new system is openly discussed as imminent at elite gatherings such as the recent World Government Summit in Dubai:

      Dr. Pippa Malmgren, economist and former special advisor to the Bush administration:

      “We have to go deeper. It’s not about the US versus China. It’s about what underpins a world order is always the financial system..what we’re seeing in the world today is that we are on the brink of a dramatic change – and I’ll say this boldly – we are about to abandon the traditional system of money and accounting and introduce a new one. It means digital. It means having an almost perfect record of every single transaction that happens in the economy. Which will give us far greater clarity of what’s going on. It also raises huge dangers in terms of the balance of power between states and citizens...”

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/03/31/world-government-summit-introduces-the-new-financial-world-order-the-intent-of-the-digital-id-that-follows-the-vaccination-passport/

      1. Broadbag

        @f_lawless

        Thank you for the lengthy and considered reply. As you frame things I can see how some could get on board that train of thought, it’s compelling in a way, however I also think there’s an element of shoe-horning the war in to the conspiracy, or plan, whichever way you see it – that is to say if some other seismic event happened instead of the war, it would be spun to be included as part of the plan ‘they pivoted to X’, because ‘the plan’ doesn’t exist, in my opinion. And I could well be wrong and you and your fellow travellers could be correct, I’m open to that possibility. Time will tell as SOQ would say.

        I have less concerns about digital currency, in that I think it’s fairly inevitable as a technological advancement. As with other tech advancements there will be pluses and minuses, but I think overall it will just make things more efficient. Obviously there’s big issues about who gets left behind if there’s a global shift to digital currency and the vaccine inequity is a good example of how the poorer nations get dumped on by the first world, so some solutions are needed there, but I wouldn’t be against it being introduced gradually over time in countries that can adapt and adopt.

      2. Nigel

        Personally I think you’re linking a bunch of things that are emergent and trying to force them to be highly over-determined. Any pandmeic response will have to be top-down. Any modern pandemic response will utilise modern, ie digital, tools. I honestly don’t know what extra surveillance you’re taliking about that isn’t already in our phones or data that hasn’t already been harvested via social media sites and system hacks and leaks. Deciding masks can’t possibly reduce the spread of an airborne virus is the stupidest culture war aspect of this whole thing.

        I note that the modern finacial system was effectively killed back in 2007. Weird that they had to go to such elaborate lengths to kill it again.

        The role of covid in instituting this new system remains obscure, frankly, with a lot of handwaving and supposition and mind-reading.

        1. Chris

          “The role of covid in instituting this new system remains obscure, frankly, with a lot of handwaving and supposition and mind-reading.”

          Not at all. It was comprehensivly documented in policy, years in advance.

        2. f_lawless

          Nigel you’re a gas man. Seems like we’re going around in circles with your responses.

          ” I honestly don’t know what extra surveillance you’re taliking about that isn’t already in our phones or data that hasn’t already been harvested via social media sites and system hacks and leaks.”

          I’ve already linked to and quoted from material that makes the case as to why we’re facing a new paradigm of governance – to which you responded by saying “nothing in there that hasn’t been on the cards for decades”.

          eg. https://wrenchinthegears.com/2021/06/05/covid-cybernetics-and-the-new-normal/

          Here’s an example paragraph I quoted which I honestly don’t think you grasped:

          “Scaling the adoption of blockchain technology to lay the global infrastructure for Social Impact Investing, enabling global financiers to use the aggregated data harvested through blockchain’s interoperable ledger to efficiently track the impact of their investments and interventions for returns on investment..”

          “..Encouraging impact investors to risk score citizens through coded interventions and preference specific behavioural outcomes on e-wallets, forcing citizen compliance and group-think on a range of metrics tied predominantly to the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs), such as education, healthcare, climate security and employment.”

          The key here is that via these new blockchain digital IDs, now every single bit of data a person generates is to be stored in one interoperable location which will facilitate his/her credit rating in a Chinese-style social credit system and allow for him/her to be traded as a commodity on Social Impact Investment markets.

          “I note that the modern finacial system was effectively killed back in 2007. Weird that they had to go to such elaborate lengths to kill it again. ”

          Yes, they made no real attempt to address the fundamental fatal flaws back in the crisis of 2007. The system was kept running on empty since then, eventually cutting interest rates down to zero. Now there’s nowhere left to go, so what we’re seeing since 2020 is a kind of controlled demolition phase in order to push us all over to digital while those at the top of the hierarchy consolidate their positions of wealth and power.

  3. Kim The Cardassian

    Throughout the pandemic, much of the public ridiculed the government when they didn’t follow the advice of Hulahoops & The NPHETs.
    Now the public is ridiculing the government for following the advice of Hulahoops & The NPHETs

    1. Mr. T

      The media have a big part to play in stoking up fears of covid – the public in turn them complain about not enough being done

      1. E'Matty

        Exactly. The media have played the role of Pied Piper throughout this period and are now whipping up the nutty Lockdown Lovers over these case numbers. New week, same old story.

      2. Kim The Cardassian

        This is true. Its as if journalists are doing what they can to avoid going back to the office.

  4. Dave

    When there are over 6 thousand health care workers off work with covid, maybe they should have a look at themselves and figure it out of where they are going wrong ?

    1. SOQ

      They haven’t had the 4th jab of the ‘safe and effective’ vaccine is where they are going wrong.

      1. Nigel

        Or they are constantly being exposed in close confined quarters to people with a highly contagious disease.

          1. Nigel

            They probably wear full PPP but they are spending their entire days in hospitals full of highly infectious patients. The concept of risk reduction and harm mitigation is always conveniently alien to you isn’t it?

    2. K.Cavan

      You do know, Dave, that the HSE has the highest absentee rates in the entire Public Sector? Given that Public Sector sickdays cost the taxpayer multiples of what all Varadker’s Welfare Cheats Cheat Us All out of, that’s some achievement.

      1. Cian

        Shock horror.

        People that actually work with sick people on a daily basis end up sick themselves more often that people that don’t work with sick people?

        Who would have thought that would happen? What a crazy world we live in.

  5. Ian - oG

    Public health, modern warfare, general cop on.

    Is there anything the faecal dribbling coprophages of Stormsheet.ie can’t misunderstand?

    I mean this is Tier 1 inanity right here, a thing to behold.

    1. Me So Harney

      Joe.ie
      The journal.ie

      Most likely Iano is banned from the above like fellow mandate loony daisy..

      1. K.Cavan

        Me So, you’ll have to admit to Dolly’s marvellous turn of phrase & entertaining use of language. Who ever thought of brains as footstools that people could live on, eh? Nobody, that’s who.
        She doesn’t so much mix her metaphors as liquidise them.

    2. K.Cavan

      Luckily, Ian, us dumbos have you to set us right.
      Off you go, we’re all eyes…
      Only joking, you total spoofer you.

    1. Ian - oG

      Journalistic integrity and lack of bias?

      Not even Indiana Jones in his prime could find that.

      1. K.Cavan

        Neither could Santa, Ian, neither could Santa.
        You’re glugging down too much of that GM Soy Juice, lad.

  6. K.Cavan

    Why does that guy appear to be wearing a tee shirt as a facerag? Maybe the HSE ordered too many facerags in XXXXL?
    Again.

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