The flagship didn’t sink it was a ‘super successful strategic de-flotation mission’ duh! As it sank, I mean de-floated, it crushed 200 scuba-Nazis and 6 underwater bio labs, so there!
stephen moran
The Russian fleet is to have a refit with glass bottom keels so their sailors can see the rest of their Airlix navy on the seabed. – seems Belarus are gone a bit squeezy bum and all is not well in Kaliningrad (500% inflation) – too much winning
Me So Harney
Tell us why you think Muslims are ragheads, stephen..
Dinkum
Because they wear head coverings in the form of a scarf
It’s the usual gentile ignorant insult that is much like what the Jews get
Me So Harney
It’s a disgusting remark that I won’t let him forget..
K. Cavan
Stephen & Broadband are getting all excited, like two kids, watching a movie, I think both have convinced themselves that if they wish & wish & wish real hard, that the Baddie, Putin, boo, hiss, will be beaten by the Goodie, er, Zelensky, hurrah!
It’s really lovely to see, like witnessing the bubbling excitement of toddlers on Christmas Eve. Have they been good little boys? Is Santa on his way?
Those lads in the media have it easy with minds like these, just grist to the mill, Cavan-fodder.
Why does stephen think Muslims are ragheads?
Broadbag
Stop sobbing over Putin’s losses Kremlin Caveman, it’s embarrassing. I’m sure he has plenty more ships to commit war crimes with, he’ll be fine.
Me So Harney
The only one losing is NATO.
Putin has reached his objectives and had the whole thing subsidised by the EU.
Now he’s winning the propoganda war.
paul
Putin doesn’t really have all that many large warships like the Moskva (which was built in Ukraine). Sure they can barely keep their fleet from before the fall of the Soviet Union going.
Broadbag
Me Soviet Harney to the rescue, it’s all going swimmingly, de-flotation major success, many civilians slaughtered, much winning, hail Putin!
Me So Harney
It’s all finished zealots, all that’s left is embarrassment and failure for NATO and its illegal mercs..
Nigel
Yes, the three-day military action is going very well indeed.
Me So Harney
@ Nigel – it doesn’t matter how long it takes, the EU is subsidising it.
paul
ah, Harney is revealed as just another troll. Don’t feed them, they starve quickly, no staying power unless they actually start contributing.
Me So Harney
Poor little nurse paul.. Wallowing in misery at the sight of his beloved ukronazis getting liquidated..
Nigel
Thousands of dead people don’t matter, Harney? That’s dark.
Me So Harney
26000 dead in donbass from 8 years of Kiev shelling, don’t they matter to you?
Nigel
They mattered to Putin, who caused and funded and armed the conflict. He loves causing death and destruction.
Me So Harney
They don’t matter to you though.
Therefore nullifying your argument.
Nigel
Which argument is nullified? have the thousands and thousands of people Putin murdered suddenly come back to life?
Me So Harney
Or the documented thousands massacred in the donbass by Kiev shelling over the past 8 years.
That’s why your argument is nullified.
Nigel
No, those bodies get added to Putin’s pile, which makes the argument you seem to be making, that those killings justify the current killings, even skeevier.
Me So Harney
And why are the 26000 dead Russian speaking Ukrainians, shelled for 8 years by Kiev, lumped in with Russia’ body count?
Nigel
Because Putin funded and armed mercenary groups – actua lNazis – to start and fight the conflict.
Me So Harney
How did Putin kill 26000 Russian speaking Ukrainians when Kiev was shelling donbass for 8 straight years?
TenPin Terry
GOTCHA !
As the Sun once memorably headlined another illegal invader’s flagship being sent to Davy Jones’ Locker.
Marvellous™
Ian - oG
Indeed, that would have been around the time they were showing semi naked kids on page 3.
Stay classy Tuppence.
TenPin Terry
Semi-naked kids on Page 3 ?
Now there’s a cry from 1970s rural Ireland.
Down with that sort of thing …
Ian - oG
LOL, it’s just too easy to get you to dance on command.
You even said pretty much what I expected you to say as well.
Like shooting fantasists in a Caribbean hot tub.
Now, off with you my little poppet, your presence is no longer required, if we need the fragrance of manure and desperation we’ll summon you via a quote post.
Mad
That’s what Russians are saying to Aidan Aslin
SOQ
Canada failed when it trained Ukrainian troops linked to the far right, says Nazi hunter
A top Nazi hunter and Holocaust scholar says Canada failed when it allowed Ukrainian military personnel connected to far-right groups to receive training as recently as 17 months ago.
Efraim Zuroff of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Israel said in an interview … that Canada failed to properly monitor its own military training program. “The Canadian government didn’t do its due diligence,” he said. “It’s the responsibility of the Canadian defence ministry to know exactly who they are training.”
“There is no question that there are neo-Nazis in different forms in Ukraine, whether they are in the Azov regiment or other organizations,” he added.
So with the full knowledge that the Canadian Army had been training the real deal in Ukraine, Trudeau was accusing the most peaceful large protest in Canadian history of being Nazis. The deputy prime mister Christina Freeland has an interesting pedigree in this regard of course.
SOQ
*minister
Verbatim
Thanks for posting that SOQ, Efraim Zuroff knows his stuff about Nazis.
K. Cavan
Well, given the hard-right, neo-fascist tendencies of the cuckold, Justin Trudeau’s minority government, I can’t see how the presence of Canadian trainers working with Neo-Nazis doesn’t just make perfect sense, really. They worked alongside US & UK NATO personnel, bringing 5 battalions per year up to NATO standard, in a “Peacekeeping Centre” with a sign outside showing a map of Ukraine, with an arrow pointing to Donbas, the destination of these troops.
The sign is long gone, however, the Russians hit the place with 5 cruise missiles, a couple of days into the invasion.
I’ve seen some of the stuff those Nazis get up to, I hope they didn’t learn all that War Crime stuff, like crucifying POWs, from NATO.
SOQ
Canada has quite the history in that regard. Approximately 2,000 Nazi war criminals slipped into Canada after the second world war so Trudeau would have known that was a sensitive subject to begin with. He also knew there was no truth in calling the truckers Nazis of course, but sure truth is clearly not something that bothers him too much at the best of times.
Christina Freeland’s grandfather was a fully paid up Nazi and was the chief editor of a Nazi newspaper in occupied Poland. She also went to university in Ukraine and is fluent in Ukrainian, so the claim that training Azov Nazis complete with their sewn on symbols was an accident, is BS of the highest order.
This background is here important in understanding not just Trudeau’s tyrannical behaviour but also their current support of the puppet clown Zelenskyy in Ukraine. It wouldn’t surprise me if the US were not the only ones up to the dodgy Bio Lab shenanigans.
Piotr
OH PULLLLEEEEZ
Canada is a WHITE NATION and has EVERY RIGHT to defend and protect its CHARACTER
WHITE
CHRISTIAN
FAMILY
HETEROSEXUAL
GOD AND LAW ABIDING
Fearganainm
Cree, Dene, Inuit, Iroquois, Kainai Nation, Niitsitapi etc. etc.
All there before Whitey.
Nigel
SOQ during the convoy: STOP SAYING EVERYONE YOU DISAGREE WITH IS A NAZI
SOQ during war in Ukraine: EVERYONE WHO THINKS THE INVASION WAS BAD IS A NAZI
SOQ
SOQ during the convoy: Nobody during the trucker protests was a Nazi.
SOQ during war in Ukraine: Many influential people in the current regime are fully paid up Nazis.
“There is no question that there are neo-Nazis in different forms in Ukraine, whether they are in the Azov regiment or other organizations,”- Efraim Zuroff
Greece won’t be sending anymore weapons to Ukraine- it should be pretty obvious why that is.
anti bot
soq / cavan is the same person. He accuses everyone of having multiple aliases but he’s the one doing it. you can tell by the nick name call, Trump loving, sexist comments. He’s one lonely guy considering the amount of time and times he spends on the Internet
Janet, dreams of an alternate universe
incorrect
Clampers Outside
Totally
Nigel
SOQ during the convoy – THAT NAZI FLAG WAS IRONIC AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS THE REAL NAZI
SOQ during war: SOMEHOW THE PRESENCE OF NAZIS IN UKRAINE IS RELEVANT TO THE COMPLETELY UNPROVOKED WAR CRIME BEING COMMITTED BY CORRUPT FASCIST MURDERING DICTATOR PUTIN
Me So Harney
Where were your tears when the Ukrainians in donbass were being shelled the past 8 years.
Nigel
Drowned out by you cheering on the mistreatment of any of Putin’s mercenaries sent in to start the conflict there captured by Ukraine
Me So Harney
Cry me a ukronazi river..
Nigel
Yeah, making ‘Nazi’ synonymous with ‘Ukrainian’ is the goal, nice groundwork for some ethnic cleansing, Harney.
Me So Harney
Donbass, 8 years of Kiev shelling, cry me a ukronazi river..
Nigel
Putin started that war, causing death and destruction, then invaded, causing more, not even crocodile tears from you, just enabling Russian propaganda
Me So Harney
Putin didn’t shell Kiev.
Kiev shelled the donbass for 8 years straight. 26000 Ukrainians dead. None of which matters to you.
The similarity in the prose contained within their respective posts and comments, is undeniable.
But the Same Old Queen isn’t very same at all.
He’s changed his look multiple times here.
So has dropped a fair bit of background about himself. Lots of it left lying around here, if anyone was so inclined.
My guess the replication is from following the same ‘chans’, livestreams and sources.
And using those resources. Like content, links, with access burner accounts and spare logins.
perhaps they’re obliging a very persuasive “do us a favour” request (s)
No different to controlled opposition really.
They’re not their own men.
They could easily be considered groomed if you think about it.
Nothing more to them than a pair Conspiracy Theory Mules
I think I’ll start calling them Bodger’s Pups
Nigel
‘Putin didn’t shell Kiev.’
What are you talking about he spent a few weeks shelling Kyiv, murdering civilians, before withdrawing, and is now promising to shell it again in retaliation for the warship fecking itself.
‘Kiev shelled the donbass’
Because Putin sent in his precious Nazi mercenaries with lots of money and guns to start a civil war.
Me So Harney
As oppose to the 8 years of constant Kiev shelling of the donbass killing 26000 innocent Ukrainians.
Cry me a ukronazi river..
Nigel
That blood’s on Putin’s hands too.
Me So Harney
How and why did Putin kill 26000 Russian speaking Ukrainians, shelled for 8 years by Kiev?
K. Cavan
Oh dear, Aunty Botty, your personal critiques & insights are as wide of the mark as your takes on current affairs. I made one remark about aliases, never said anything much about Trump, not sexist, not SOQ. Your attempts to demonise SOQ are equally lacking in validity, don’t ring true & just demonstrate that you’re not a people person.
Myself & SOQ clearly share one common attribute, we’re both far too humble for our own good.
Your post is Tripe in White Sauce.
Nigel
He funded and armed mercenary groups to start the conflict, Harney.
Me So Harney
That killed 26000 Russian speaking Ukrainians?
Tom J
Your definition of most peaceful is very different to everyone else’s. What makes you think there were no Nazis among the truckers making all the peaceful noise. Maybe the Canadian army trained the truckers as well.
jonjoker
Unfortunately, there could be Nazis anywhere, even walking down the street next to you or sitting beside you on a plane.
There may well have been Nazis or at least fascists at the Ottawa protest – as I’m sure there are at almost every anti-establishment protest these days, as they try to beef up their “anti-establishment” credentials. It’s a tried and tested means of infiltrating with a view to taking over a movement in order to turn it into something else.
There could have been plenty of alt-right sent up from the USA. In other words, fascists.
K. Cavan
You see, Tom J, the fascination that Wokists have with fighting the battles of the past is telling. Nazis, Fascists, well they don’t really exist, outside of NATO in Ukraine, these days. They’re also obsessed with slavery, which is alive & well in Africa & W Asia but an historical matter, elsewhere.
This allows them to live in their fantasy world, ignoring real life problems & pretending they’re some sort of freedom fighters, by labelling all who dare disagree with them with anachronistic slurs.
If actual Nazis existed in the West, sure they’d chew up Wokists & spit them out.
Tom J
What past battles would that be.
SOQ
Energy import ban will hit Germany harder than Russia, unions warn Berlin
“I believe that stopping [energy] imports does not make sense at all,” Hoffman told German broadcaster ARD.
The official warned that “the economic consequences for Europe and Germany would be much more serious than for Russia,” highlighting that the ban “will not affect events in Ukraine.”
The puppet clown probably knew this was the way the German wind was blowing, so threw a sulk when Steinmeier was due to visit. They are since denying he rejected the visit offer of course.
Hughie Luas
“The Press United is an Online International newspaper based in New Delhi, India.”
We’ve done BASF yesterday.
K. Cavan
That’s the thing, Hughie, India still has a free press, so it’s a great source for news that isn’t fanciful, invented nonsense or globalist propaganda.
Broadbag
Why is Kremlin Caveman posting at 4am? I suppose Russia is 2 hours ahead of Ireland so you’ve probably just been cattle-prodded awake and served your bowl of morning gruel, hop to it puppet, the propaganda won’t spread itself! Hail Putin!
Me So Harney
Whining about post times is about your level Bullybag..
Broadbag
Whining about someone whining, absolute bottom feeder behaviour from Me Soviet Horny. Tiresome alt login troll is tiresome.
If you bothered your lazy ass to enter the headline into a search engine you would have seen that the story is genuine and has been reported from many sources- but no, because you don’t like the story, you are going to nit pick the website- pathetic.
The German government hasn’t got very long left. Every government who’s joined in with these sanctions should be got rid of, asap, it’s a matter of life & death. This is a very deliberate attack on the citizens of Europe by their elected politicians, they’re out to finish the job they started with the fake pandemic lockdowns, by destroying SMEs & eventually, entire nations.
Remember how our governments used to be so obsessed about “The Economy”, it’s health was of vital importance to them, it informed every decision they made. Now, they don’t give a toss, print money, pile on the debt, while cutting off energy & food supplies to their own citizens.
Anyone who witnesses this & fails to realise that things have changed, fundamentally, that the life they’ve known is being done away with, is very, very dim.
Welcome to The New Normal.
You will own nothing.
It’s just entirely coincidental that our government is working on a bill to end property ownership. It’s good to see the government being so responsive & to be bowing to the demands of the people to have their property rights removed, immediately, they’re such a burden. Anyway, if they can’t fix the referendum, they’ll just announce that next year’s property tax is 100% of your home’s value, checkmate.
Dinkum
Latest news is Germany is upping llignitr production to power its brown coal power stations
And lignite is actually peat or turf
Maybe eamon Ryan should get on his bike and make for Berlin and stay there
We cannot shut down our turf while Germany expands
And their way of mining lignite is the most toxic in the world
jonjoker
Yeah, he should point out the error of their ways to them.
I’m sure they’ll take heed of his concerns, and then send him off to the US to spread the message there that coal burning plants are nasty. Biden will listen to him too, and all will be just dandy in no time at all.
Me So Harney
More Yankee and Tan mercenaries surrendered in Mauripol..
Tik tock Cloutier..
TenPin Terry
‘ Tell us why you think Muslims are ragheads, stephen.. ‘
TenTit Terry, your tan mercs are off to the gulags.. Not even the Geneva convention can save them.. And it’s all they deserve..
TenPin Terry
‘ Tell us why you think Muslims are ragheads, stephen.. ‘
WHOOSH !
Me So Harney
TenTit tans off to the gulags to chop rubble for the rest of their pathetic lives.. Good enough..
f_lawless
Coveney, emotional? Pull the other one. Pretend empathy, maybe. Unscrupulous and well-practiced purveyor of lies and propaganda who shows a contempt for ordinary citizens, definitely
Otis Blue
Were he genuinely concerned about the plight of the Ukrainians, he could take a spin out to Clonakilty to see this shambles.
Then again, I’d imagine the same thing is happening all around the country.
TenPin Terry
These are the early warning signs of a refugee catastrophe in Ireland that I was the first to warn about on here weeks ago.
600 Ukrainians refugees arriving EVERY DAY with no limits on numbers or time frame.
I asked then and I ask again now – where do you put 100,000 – 200,000 extra people in a country where there are already 10,000 homeless people living in emergency accomodation ?
No-one in government has offered a credible answer.
Buckle up lads, you’re in for a bumpy ride.
GiggidyGoo
Maybe direct your question – directly to your local TD. They’re hardly going to reply to you here now are they?
In the meantime, top of the pops No. 1 – Help Rwanda. help Help Rwanda. By Pretty Prattle and the Partygoers.
Otis Blue
As indicated by Micheal Martin’s recent comments, the Government response was reliant on accommodation pledges being made. When that didn’t materialise it all came down the State to deliver. And as per usual, we get shocking ineptitude, half-assery and a general couldn’t give a sh1te attitude.
And we pay through the nose for it.
scottser
Maybe we should do like the tans do; sell weapons to both sides but close our borders to the refugees from the conflict?
Otis Blue
Tbh, I’d settle for overpaid and underworked civil servants actually doing their jobs.
SOQ
Ireland is making commitments way over and above most countries so- who exactly is making those accommodation pledges and why are they so high?
Dinkum
I saw him once crying over spilt milk or was it his brother at the glambia dairy plant
Hughie Luas
New submarine commissioned in Russian Navy.
Dinkum
I spare a thought for the crew that drowned maybe 400
Hughie Luas
Local lad certain Elon Musk will offer to buy Broadsheet to save it .
stephen moran
only if Mr. Ryan throws in a few p0rno wives
john f
It would be foolish and reckless to abandon our military neutrality. The vast majority of the public know this. Bought and paid for official’s and politicians are doing there best to change that. Any decision on changing our military alignment or joining a NATO like organisation has to go to a referendum.
There have been countless articles and reports on rising property prices and limited housing stock, declining levels of public services over the past decade. Arguably, the housing crisis affects young people most of all.
However, the same media outlets would tell you that younger people here are more supportive of open borders and unlimited uncontrolled migration than any other country in Europe. I don’t think that is truly the case.
Surely people must realise that there is an undeniable link between the 2. I.e. for every hundred thousand migrants admit there was have to be at least 25,000 houses built, education and medical care would have read provided and adversely affecting already woeful services……
if the narrative that the media and official Ireland is trying to paint is true. Then it’s cognitive dissidence on a massive scale.
The reason why the UK want to move their migrant processing to Rwanda is to deter asylum tourism chancers. There is no soft money in Africa. I have no doubt that if they get it implemented their problem with migrants coming over from France would end very quickly.
I think the government got rattled over the sharp public outcry regarding the sale of turf ban. They rightly fear protests on a level not dissimilar to that of water charges 10 years ago. The Green Brigade needs to be muzzled and reined in. It’s simple as that.
K. Cavan
The government don’t want to have to resort to violence, though they will, if we dare resist what’s coming or rather, what’s already here.
We’re getting into the sharp end of the revolution they’ve planned for us & just want to keep as many people as they can asleep for as long as possible, at this stage.
I feel there will be an opportunity to use all that information that was published in some of the papers, recently, about how civilians can tackle tanks. Don’t recycle those pages, you might need them.
Tom J
Governments don’t do revolutions. Who are they going to overthrow, themselves.
Dinkum
Actually the permitted price gouging is a way they will soften us up for voting against keeping our neutrality
We will be suffering so much the public will be begging for a world war so once the Russians are defeated the prices all go down
Meanwhile the war drums are deafening
jonjoker
They certainly backtracked about the turf pretty fast.
But that Cabbage-headed idiot who thought the middle of an energy crisis was a good time to bring in restrictions on turf use can never see that he is on a hiding to nothing here. With his gas-fired central heating and his big diesel-guzzling automobile, he’s alright jack. Fukk the begrudgers down the bog, they don’t deserve a warm home anyway.
SOQ
And the irony is that farmers are way more in touch with nature than zealots like Ryan will ever be- it is in their the DNA.
Instead of the usual ban and tax and ‘you must suffer’ BS, if he was serious then he would be encouraging the agriculture industry to move to a Dutch style tech innovation model.
There is absolutely no reason why environmentalists and the agri industry should be on opposite sides of this debate.
You’re going to have to get used to an ongoing energy crisis, I’m afraid, simultaneous with a climate change crisis. You can address the first by making the second worse, or you can address the second, which will involve a better way of addressing the first. Unfortunately that will involve change which, despite the eternal complaiing that goes on about the way things are, everybody seems utterly terrified of.
Gerry
Don’t call me Shirley
stephen moran
Captains log on day 51 of our 3 day mission to seek out Ukrainian biolabs and Nazis. I’m filling in for the Colonel who was KIA while taking a dump in a local outhouse – we’d run out of bog roll and he was sadly making some use of the top secret liberation plan at the time . About those plans – we lost 50% of our fighting capacity when we went to that “meet and greet” with the locals you so kindly arranged but sadly they all were armed to the teeth with heaps of newfangled imperialist western military hardware and had clearly run out of flowers of boom boxes to welcome us. Some points for Fantasy Fleet Command. Those new tanks you sent us to replace the destroyed Airfix ones are actually made out of cardboard and paper mache (why did they have a Blue Peter self assembly instructions with packets of blue tack and rolls of double sided tape ?). The new recruits you sent don’t actually speak Russian and don’t seem to be from around my parts of the glorious Motherland. By the way few of the lads whilst out on R an R were letting off a bit of steam and got up to a bit of high jinx with the locals (you know – rape, pillage, arbitrary executions) which the the fake news foreign media are calling war crimes. Anyway off to tuck into my delicious best before 2015 spam rations. Any news from our unsinkable navy ?
Best Sergey
hmmm
Moran here shows us the media techniques at play in the Russian Ukraine conflict: let’s keep making stuff up and hope some of it sticks.
Ian - oG
”Holy” Thursday.
”Good” Friday.
Have you actually found God Bodger?
I’ll be having a pint later on, no idea why it was banned for so long, odd?
john f
No, I think God found him!
Verbatim
So long as you don’t eat a ham sandwich with it, you hard chaw!
TenPin Terry
It’s the Christmas Day pints I miss most living in Galway.
Back in the day there was one local hostelry which left its back door open for festive scoops before the turkey and ham.
You’d often see the local fuzz in there on their Christmas Day off enjoying their free Christmas quart as regulars.
Sadly lockdown killed that.
Good times.
GiggidyGoo
Except you live in a smelly bedsit in Blackpool, Cork.
Verbatim
Am I mad in thinking it would be kinda cool to be flipped off to Rwanda, it’s a new day and a new life https://soundcloud.com/semagik/its-a-new-life-its-a-new-day
Money
UK offering £120million to Rwanda to accept tens of thousands of refugees
Musk offering $43billion to buy a web site (Twitter)
TenPin Terry
It’s certainly got to be better than staying in France.
Imagine a country being such a toilet that you’re prepared to pay someone €3000 to risk losing your life crossing the busiest shipping lane in the world to reach another country whose media tells you everyone’s a racist who hates foreigners.
Something just doesn’t add up.
But I’d say even Rwanda is better than living under Napoleon Macron.
stephen moran
The are three issues – firstly language – most immigrants have English as their natural second spoken language.- secondly, the black economy – because there are is no national ID card scheme it is far easier to work, hide and survive as an illegal alien in the black economy in the UK (gig economy, below minimum wage employment n clothing industry in midlands etc. – thirdly family ties and existing networks (the joys of the Empire playing boomerang) – there is also an element of lots of the displaced actually coming for warzones that ahem were the result of them being invaded or occupied by the US and the UK – the US of course leaves Europe to pick up the tab for the refugee crisis they’re ill advised neo-imperialism creates.
Me So Harney
Why do you think Muslims are ragheads, stephen..?
stephen moran
I’ve told you 3 times already but like St Peter you are deaf to answers and indeed to reality judging trademark fact free scattergun insults.
I used the term to refer to those Sunnis who perpetuate or sponsor intra-Islamic ethnic cleansing against Shai Muslims based on a warped interpretation of Takfir which at an individual permits someone to be deemed an apostate (infidel) which certain Sunni factions (ISIS for example) have industrialized to justify genocidal attacks against Friday prayers at Shiite Mosques in Egypt, Iraq, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia & Syria killing thousands of people. They have also carried out church bombings in Egypt, Indonesia, Philippines, Sri Lanka and Syria.
The people who carry out such heinous crimes and all those who support and sponsor them are raghead IMO. And I make zero apology for thinking or saying that
Me So Harney
For the third time that’s not an explanation stephen. That’s your warped view of the world.
Now tell us why you think Muslims are ragheads, stephen?
Nigel
It’s a racist term, don’t use it. Racist people use crimes and atrocities committed by members of an ethnicity to smear all that ethnicity – you can’t cordon off your racism to confine it to the bad guys, it just doesn’t work. Harney’s harassment-through-repetition is dumb, but in this case you deserve it. On the other hand, Harney and Cavan are woke now, which is nice.
Me So Harney
100% agreed Nigel..
If it fessed up instead of gaslighting, I wouldn’t bother repeating myself, but it didn’t so here we are..
TenPin Terry
It’s just a shame you aren’t so principled about using the terms Yankees and Tans.
But then I’ve never figured you to be the sharpest tool in the box.
A tool definitely but just not very sharp.
Me So Harney
Send a woke email to the New York Yankees..
Send a woke email to Leo and Charlie Flanagan who wanted to immortalise your beloved Tans.
Much as you think you might have a point. You don’t, now go snivel to someone else.
Dunce Tan mercs getting a one way ticket to sunny Siberia to answer their life’s calling, hacking up rubble.
Health Warning:. The following may cause insult and or offence. And you’ve been duly advised. Should you proceed, save any indignation for your Easter Confessions or another thread.
Ta. V
Remember that lad that killed ABM and then tried to eat him?
Well. That was the act of a mad man. Yet their religion, and relationship featured very little in the telling afterwards. Including the murder’s country of birth.
The awful, awful, murders in Sligo deserve the same discretion.
The acts of a mad man.
Leave everything else out.
Madness, and the strength of hate that can turn into criminality, doesn’t pick a religion or a skin colour or a sexuality to specially target.
It can appear anywhere.
RIP Aidan Moffitt
RIP Michael Snee
You both died on a night you arranged, and planned to be about passion, love and companionship.
What might have been your last thoughts when you realised that’s not was the murderer had in mind.
I am heartbroken for you both that that was your final thoughts in this life.
The next one will do better by ye.
xV
Dell
+ 1
Tom J
What the fcuk are you on about.
johnny
To Hell and Back.
Fasting and abstinence.Examine consciousness. On the eve of the cross, Jesus made his decision. He would rather go to hell for you than go to heaven without you.
….who’s that not far from a few million in cash.
“Independent TD Michael Lowry was involved in the bid to turn the disused shopping centre into a school for Saudi students.
Lowry was brought in to help lobby for the project ……
The ever-prescient John McGuirk has some interesting thoughts on this week’s terrible events in Sligo.
Ireland is beginning, sotto voce in today’s cultural climate, to ask the same questions Blighty started asking itself some years ago.
McGuirk, of course, doesn’t even begin to address the avalanche of homophobic filth and racism currently swirling about in Irish Alt-Right circles. He knows the dogs he’s whistling to.
TenPin Terry
But did you actually read what he wrote or is your real name Richard Head ?
Because you know commenting on articles you haven’t read is knuckle-dragging territory.
Fearganainm
Obviously I read it to know that he ignores the rabid, homophobic, disgusting and racist filth currently polluting parts of social media frequented by Alt-Right vermin. That’s a bigger elephant in the room that McGuirk fails to address.
TenPin Terry
Yup, I was right first time.
A knuckle-dragger who spends his day posting endless Guardian links in the misguided notion that it somehow confers on him an air of donnish credibility.
You poor thing.
But very amusing.
It’s like watching the court jester bash himself over the head with an inflated pig’s bladder full of urine in the misguided notion that he’s being funny.
Which he is but not in the way he thinks he is.
Fearganainm
As a racist waster yourself it’s no surprise to see that you’re a sneaking regarder of other racists and homophobes and others who give such people a free pass. There’s no principle with you, only opportunistic attempts to promote particular bandwagons.
TenPin Terry
Mate – you’re nowt but a Lidl knock-off version of Owen Jones spouting woke bingo.
Always destined to be in the middle aisle with the hanging baskets and Chinese socket sets.
Fearganainm
Here’s part of the constituency McGuirk is ignoring. National Party fanboy John McGhee. You can tell exactly how sympathetic towards the two murdered men he and other National Party louts are, and how amusing he actually thinks the Sligo horror is:
*** Warning – Vile, homophobic and racist comments ***
Chow down on that elephant and pretend it doesn’t exist.
TenPin Terry
Keep digging feller.
Let us know when you get to Australia.
Still nothing to say about the actual article itself.
I love it when the Sandalistas start spraying their spittle around.
Fearganainm
John McGhee sporting his National Party hoodie with pride:
“McGuirk, of course, doesn’t even begin to address the avalanche of homophobic filth and racism currently swirling about in Irish Alt-Right circles. He knows the dogs he’s whistling to.”
That’s what I have to say about McGuirk exploiting two savage murders and a no less savage blinding of a third victim to fuel a discussion about immigration that doesn’t even consider how a six-year-old child could be screened to guarantee he’d never commit such acts. Forget all the native homophobia and just home in on the immigrants, is that your ‘solution’? No surprise there.
TenPin Terry
You’ve got to admit beheadings are a relatively new import to Ireland.
Get used to it old cock – there’s more on the way.
You wait till the new grooming gangs get to work.
Ian - oG
Grooming gangs tuppence? But according to you, decades long horrific sexual abuse only makes one somewhat of a ‘cad’?
Pining for 16 years old on page 3 are we?
Weird-Oh……
Fearganainm
You can’t resist ‘enlarging the debate’ to flash your racist ankles, can you?
It’s almost as if you don’t want to address the issue of who actually carries out the vast majority of such crimes.
TenPin Terry
And the beheadings ?
Don’t forget the beheadings.
Chop chop.
jonjoker
Beheadings?
Aren’t they a French thing, you know what the guillotine was designed to do.
You brits prefered to choke people to death while swinging at the end of a rope.
SOQ
The British government first ignored Muslim grooming gangs, and then witch-hunted anyone who dared speak about Muslim grooming gangs- and now, they are trying to white-wash Muslim grooming gangs.
As the person who first posted the information detailing the savagery of the Sligo murders here I don’t think that I need to be reminded of the horrific violence accompanying the killings.
Are you hoping that it becomes a trend? Or are you acknowledging that its rarity doesn’t support the view that the hundreds of thousands of other immigrants here have displayed signs of wanting to do the same?
Mad
It’s truly special when my two favourite nincompoops socialise
SOQ
John McGurik is correct.
People who come from such very different cultures sometimes have difficulty adjusting to ours, as we would to theirs- there should be nothing controversial in stating that. In the case of Muslim cultures, such may manifest itself like in some Parisian suburbs where cafes are men only- or Luton in England where young women get harassed for not dressing ‘modestly’. And it doesn’t necessarily disappear within a generation, so things like arranged marriages are ongoing.
But when it comes to the gay issue there is another level of complexity. To understand this you must start on the basis that everyone is homophobic, including gay people- that it is a gradient scale upon which we all sit, rather a binary status. And, that those who come from very homophobic cultures sometimes carry a lot more baggage, and why wouldn’t they? How could they miss?
As I said previously, when there is violent attacks, it is nearly always someone with an internal battle going on. So assuming Yousef Palani is guilty, and sane, and while I am certainly not justifying what he has done- there is a side of me which thinks he is also a victim of homophobia.
Internalised homophobia is always worse than external and in the right doses, guilt and shame will wreck anyone’s head. IMO there has been three lives taken- which is even sadder.
Ian - oG
Nobody is born homophobic or any other type of phobic, it is distilled into them.
Oro
“when there is (sic) violent attacks, it is nearly always someone with an internal battle going on.”
Disagree with you on this. It’s funny, I’ve noticed you introducing a quite nasty theme to your comments over the last few days where you’re very quietly pushing the blame for violence against LGBT people onto LGBT people.
Almost every gay person can tell you about violence or bullying against them in their youth committed by their straight peers, however hardly any gay people would have similar stories about same from other gay people (or closeted gay people (don’t pretend we don’t always know)).
While internalised homophobia is a real thing (and a byproduct of general homophobia enacted by heterosexual society)) it is not always or necessarily (or ever IMHO) worse than general societal homophobia.
This is a very “well the women are more misogynistic than the men” alt-crank argument.
SOQ
If anyone’s tone is nasty, it is yours. It is impossible to converse with you without the questioning of people’s motives- are you a gay man?
In my experience, when there is attacks like this, it is near always a closet who commits the crime. This guy (I assume) went onto a gay hook up app, on his own, and met others. That is buyer’s remorse, and is very common with guys who have not come to terms with their sexuality- the difference being that that this guy turned violent.
It is very different to what happened in Dublin recently, where a fella was badly beaten on the street by some thug who just didn’t like the look of him. That said, he has his own issues to be so triggered in the first place.
Oro
I didn’t say you had a nasty tone (altho u often do) I said it was a nasty theme in your recent comments. And yes I am a gay man (I think that this is one time when a personal question by you is worth answering because it is newsworthy in this instance).
Maybe you see more internalized homophobia because you suffer from it to a larger degree. It would explain a lot of your output on here, especially your blaming of LGBT people for homophobic violence.
The reality of life is that homophobic violence is committed by and caused by a dominant heterosexual population. Your assumption about this case is neither here nor there and fueled by your own biases.
Of course you are correct in that there are examples of homosexual people that are violent against LGBT people mechanized by internalized homophobia, but that is not the majority. And I would question your motives as to why you would suggest the opposite is true.
Mad
Nasty Oro doing his usual despicable thing
SOQ
But the subject was not the general topic of homophobic violence, it was specifically about these two murders? That is not in any way blaming gay men for homophobic violence- it is just stating the obvious- that if the guy was using gay apps, he is likely to be in denial.
What I have said about internalised homophobia is pretty much accepted as the norm these days- certainly with counsellors. It is also one of the first things they will cover in a gay personal development course- I am not sure why you think otherwise.
Oro
No that wasn’t the subject but you specifically said that the below:
“when there is (sic) violent attacks, it is nearly always someone with an internal battle going on.”
Which is what I was replying to. You introduced the discussion on general violence and pointed blame at LGBT people, I disagreed. You’re as scattered sometimes.
Mad
Why do you guys have to nit pick every single thing SOQ says and berate him over it? As he says himself would you do that in real life?
Despicable carry on.
SOQ
Ok there is something about one of those murders that I did not know- that one victim was beheaded. That suggests a more religious / cultural motivation than being just being in denial about his own sexuality.
Apologies.
Ian - oG
I, like a lot of people, know John McGuirk a long time, I’ve even had some online ‘disputes’ with him.
Suffice to say any benefit of the doubt he might have been due was used up not this decade, not even the last decade, he has been a known liar and gobshyte for a long time now.
He has essentially become the go to guy for lost causes.
TenPin Terry
He was just about the only journalist at the beginning of the pandemic questioning the HSE, Holohan and the government’s response when people like you were still washing your food shopping when you got home…
And you were all about boris smashing the vaccine roll out, taking the piss out of any and all antivax points of view.
Two Face Terry..
TenPin Terry
Interestingly the Irish media’s reluctance to mention the ethnicity of the Sligo accused until they absolutely had to which I highlighted yesterday is shared by the liberal media in the US as well.
Who’da thunk it …
The British media was informed by an Irish journalist – John Mooney – that the suspected perpetrator was of ‘Middle Eastern origin’. Here it’s more usual for detail to emerge once a suspect has been charged and made a court appearance.
TenPin Terry
The British media wasn’t informed by anyone.
The Daily Mail printed the suspect’s ethnicity before anyone else having obtained the information through normal journalistic practice..
The fact the Irish media chose not to report it when everyone in Sligo knew in advance means they were complicit in withholding information – something they have lots of experience at doing.
Fearganainm
The Daily Mail was late to the show. Lurid details of the killings first appeared in ‘The Times’, courtesy of John Mooney, an Investigative journalist with the Sunday Times. Do try to keep up.
It’s also pretty obvious that gardaí / emergency service worker/s gave Mooney copious details about the suspect, the nature of the killings and the injuries sustained by the deceased.
As for the suspect’s nationality – the surname abounds in Tamil Nadu, India, and in Iran. The ‘Middle Eastern’ label given by Mooney is all anyone needed.
Charage
why is the ethnicity of the man charged of so much interest to you?
A murderer is now in custody.
Justice with be done.
And Since you’ve zero inclination to grieve, or offer condolences that come from any place of genuine decency. Or emphasise with the victims families and friends. And their respective communities.
Justice is all that should matter.
TenPin Terry
At the time the Daily Mail chose to report it the police were still searching for information about other possible victims – I would have thought the suspect’s ethnicity was quite an important factor in that wouldn’t you ?
Anyway, get used to it.
This sort of obfuscation will be happening with increasing regularity in the future.
Ireland generally follows what happens in the UK about a decade later.
‘Twas ever thus.
If you live in London now you’d swear the majority of violent crime was committed by a mystery ethnic-free race of people.
Oro
The majority of violent crime in all societies is generally committed by poorer people, or those living in poverty. And in the UK, non white communities are kept in poverty. Not something to cheer about C, it’s actually quite a nasty theme of modern UK political protocol.
Fearganainm
If you live in London now you’d be aware that a considerable amount of violent crime is carried out by members of the Metropolitan police.
You’ve reminded me of something London residents might have in common that local news site that caters for the Hard Alt White Paddys
Russian spondoulies
⊙﹏⊙
Mad
What’s of interest to me is that English mercenaries like Aidan Aslin keep getting caught with their pants down in Ukraine and then their families go on Sky News to whine about it?
Don’t go to war if you’re a coward who can’t face the consequences
Fearganainm
Local racists suddenly come out as LGBT supporters
I find the whole Elon Musk / Twitter story quite interesting. Twitter has clearly abused its position, especially during the pandemic. Banning experts in their respective fields without any justification other than they went against the official narrative, was disgraceful. They were and are drunk with power- big men and women- until now, when a bigger man arrives on the scene.
Musk buys 9% of shares then after having a look, decides he really doesn’t like those board and management people. Over their heads, he makes an offer to the shareholders to buy the entire outfit- otherwise he will offload the lot, and tank the value. Of course the shareholders have no ethics or even politics, their sole intent is to make as much profit as possible- so they will probably take the money and run.
And that is when it is going to be fun- absolute carnage at the top level of Twitter- and by God do they deserve it. What happens then is anyone’s guess. Musk is marketed in the Richard Branson mode of ‘cool’ guy, but I am pretty certain there is a hard-nosed side to him too.
At least he is not a Wall Street lackey like the current Twitter board, which is a good start.
Darrens
*THE UNDENIABLE APPEARANCE OF SAID ELEPHANT CONJURES THE INCONSEQUENTIAL SON OF APARTHEID MINING MAGNATE BEFORE HE LEAVES AGAIN FOR SPACE… AS IF BY MAGIC
(Alternative Headline)
stephen moran
He’s about $40bn light on the funding front. The stock was trading in the 60’s last Oct. It’s a lowball offer with no funding organized – just like his ruse which might have landed someone else in jail to take Tesla private when he lied about there being Saudi funding behind it which there neve was. He’s would have to sell or use over half his Tesla shares as collateral. If he’s serious submit a tender at $54.20 which bypasses the board and goes straight to shareholders but he won’t as that would required a detailed filing on the funding which he doesn’t have.
But he’s put Tesla in play – of that there is little doubt – but other tech names will have serious anti-trust issues I’d guess to overcome whereas someone taking it private would be okay ? Seems odd but that would be the route which is a bit of a paradox in terms of independence / liberty / freedom of speech / hate speech standards etc.
Ian - oG
I love how some of the cryptobros halfwits seem to think Elon Musk actually has a big pile of cash he can draw on at will.
But no, their little button mushrooms are all erect from the heady aroma of the elongated muskrats fragrant ardour.
stephen moran
agreed – its a popular misconception – would you lend him $40bn against Tesla stock with a P/E ratio of 150 when the Nasdaq average is 31 ! Any sort of even minor mean reversion and you are seriously underwater on the collateral side of that equation. That’s well beyond even Anglo-Irish banking maths circa 2005
SOQ
Liberals breathe a sigh of relief as the Vanguard Group (a supranational investment behemoth owned by other supranational investment behemoths like BlackRock, T. Rowe Price, and the Vanguard Group) saves the Twitter Corporation from Covid-denying Russian “free speech” extremists!
Ask your FGer masters if that bonus is entitled to carers??
Fearganainm
Nobody in my family has ever, ever, ever voted for Fine Gael and I can say with confidence that none of us ever, ever, ever will.
Do you ever get anything right?
Me So Harney
The ghosts of snake island are still waiting for a retraction.
Fearganainm
Didn’t you hear? They lulled the Moskva into a false sense of security then sank it.
Me So Harney
Didn’t you hear, your beloved ukronazi avoz and illegal mercs all surrendered to chechens..
Cry me a ukronazi river..
Fearganainm
How IS Anton Kuprin, anyway?
Me So Harney
How is poroshenko, anyway?
Snigger..
TenPin Terry
Today’s useless factoid.
Mr Brightside by the Killers has not been out of the UK music charts for 20 years.
Currently No 69.
stephen moran
Interesting breezy non technical read minus the usual tortured prose
“The Irish economy during the century after partition” Cormac Ó Gráda,Kevin Hjortshøj O’Rourke Economic History Review May 2022
I’ve always found Ó Gráda to have an agenda. I’m not sure anything he writes can be fully trusted.
stephen moran
Do point me to some articles he’s written where he has displayed this “agenda” and further enlighten me what this “agenda” is so I can reread his earlier peer group reviewed work and watch out for it
Andrew
peer reviewed? Neither History nor Economics are sciences. There are always agendas, revisionists and downright liars involved in what are essentially Arts subjects
ce
No BS updates today? – Out doing the Stations of the Cross? Kidnapped by Ukrainian Nazis? Kidnapped by Russian Nazis? Having mandatory vaxxes injected? Just could be bothered entertaining us monkies today? … only you can decide…
The Millie Obnoxious™
BS doesn’t update on Good Friday, hasn’t ever, iirc. But I don’t think I’m missing much.
Infantile name-calling seems to be the order of the day. You jackass, you!
ce
And to you… and the jackass you rode in on… merry crucifixion day one and all…
GiggidyGoo
Worth a visit on Thursday – The Big Top Limerick. Scott Bradleys Postmodern Jukebox. I think they’re in Vicar Street this Tuesday
Different takes on songs you know.
See y’all there – see if you can identify me. Man or Woman? Listen for the accent huns
Quick mention for Declan Rice who was on fire last.
A definite future England captain and likely the subject of a massive transfer fee at the end of this season.
Thanks lads.
Very generous of you …
Fearganainm
Russia near to defaulting on overseas debts, says ratings agency
“…How has a book condemned by countless leading authorities (Holocaust historians, rabbis, Jewish cultural centers and the Auschwitz Museum) sold over 11 million copies, been translated into 57 languages, and become one of the most widely read Holocaust resources?…”
“… It seems a poorly thought out, cash-grabbing sequel is more important than proactively making amends for the damage already done to the Jewish community and Holocaust education…”
Fearganainm
“Shocking and terrible news! The book was the worst, and probably the most successful, distortion of the Holocaust in children’s books ever!!”
“More than half of the people who pledged accommodation to incoming Ukrainian refugees have either changed their minds or are uncontactable so far, the Irish Red Cross (IRC) have said. Close to one in six (16pc) of the 25,200 accommodation pledges made in Ireland so far have been withdrawn, while 40pc of the homeowners contacted by the IRC have not been available…”
Otis Blue
On the other hand…
“The Red Cross says it attempted to get in touch with these families, but in many cases, the phones rang out. A representative of the Red Cross admitted this week that there is no facility for the families to return calls, as there is nobody to answer them.”
The flagship didn’t sink it was a ‘super successful strategic de-flotation mission’ duh! As it sank, I mean de-floated, it crushed 200 scuba-Nazis and 6 underwater bio labs, so there!
The Russian fleet is to have a refit with glass bottom keels so their sailors can see the rest of their Airlix navy on the seabed. – seems Belarus are gone a bit squeezy bum and all is not well in Kaliningrad (500% inflation) – too much winning
Tell us why you think Muslims are ragheads, stephen..
Because they wear head coverings in the form of a scarf
It’s the usual gentile ignorant insult that is much like what the Jews get
It’s a disgusting remark that I won’t let him forget..
Stephen & Broadband are getting all excited, like two kids, watching a movie, I think both have convinced themselves that if they wish & wish & wish real hard, that the Baddie, Putin, boo, hiss, will be beaten by the Goodie, er, Zelensky, hurrah!
It’s really lovely to see, like witnessing the bubbling excitement of toddlers on Christmas Eve. Have they been good little boys? Is Santa on his way?
Those lads in the media have it easy with minds like these, just grist to the mill, Cavan-fodder.
Why does stephen think Muslims are ragheads?
Stop sobbing over Putin’s losses Kremlin Caveman, it’s embarrassing. I’m sure he has plenty more ships to commit war crimes with, he’ll be fine.
The only one losing is NATO.
Putin has reached his objectives and had the whole thing subsidised by the EU.
Now he’s winning the propoganda war.
Putin doesn’t really have all that many large warships like the Moskva (which was built in Ukraine). Sure they can barely keep their fleet from before the fall of the Soviet Union going.
Me Soviet Harney to the rescue, it’s all going swimmingly, de-flotation major success, many civilians slaughtered, much winning, hail Putin!
It’s all finished zealots, all that’s left is embarrassment and failure for NATO and its illegal mercs..
Yes, the three-day military action is going very well indeed.
@ Nigel – it doesn’t matter how long it takes, the EU is subsidising it.
ah, Harney is revealed as just another troll. Don’t feed them, they starve quickly, no staying power unless they actually start contributing.
Poor little nurse paul.. Wallowing in misery at the sight of his beloved ukronazis getting liquidated..
Thousands of dead people don’t matter, Harney? That’s dark.
26000 dead in donbass from 8 years of Kiev shelling, don’t they matter to you?
They mattered to Putin, who caused and funded and armed the conflict. He loves causing death and destruction.
They don’t matter to you though.
Therefore nullifying your argument.
Which argument is nullified? have the thousands and thousands of people Putin murdered suddenly come back to life?
Or the documented thousands massacred in the donbass by Kiev shelling over the past 8 years.
That’s why your argument is nullified.
No, those bodies get added to Putin’s pile, which makes the argument you seem to be making, that those killings justify the current killings, even skeevier.
And why are the 26000 dead Russian speaking Ukrainians, shelled for 8 years by Kiev, lumped in with Russia’ body count?
Because Putin funded and armed mercenary groups – actua lNazis – to start and fight the conflict.
How did Putin kill 26000 Russian speaking Ukrainians when Kiev was shelling donbass for 8 straight years?
GOTCHA !
As the Sun once memorably headlined another illegal invader’s flagship being sent to Davy Jones’ Locker.
Marvellous™
Indeed, that would have been around the time they were showing semi naked kids on page 3.
Stay classy Tuppence.
Semi-naked kids on Page 3 ?
Now there’s a cry from 1970s rural Ireland.
Down with that sort of thing …
LOL, it’s just too easy to get you to dance on command.
You even said pretty much what I expected you to say as well.
Like shooting fantasists in a Caribbean hot tub.
Now, off with you my little poppet, your presence is no longer required, if we need the fragrance of manure and desperation we’ll summon you via a quote post.
That’s what Russians are saying to Aidan Aslin
Canada failed when it trained Ukrainian troops linked to the far right, says Nazi hunter
A top Nazi hunter and Holocaust scholar says Canada failed when it allowed Ukrainian military personnel connected to far-right groups to receive training as recently as 17 months ago.
Efraim Zuroff of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Israel said in an interview … that Canada failed to properly monitor its own military training program. “The Canadian government didn’t do its due diligence,” he said. “It’s the responsibility of the Canadian defence ministry to know exactly who they are training.”
“There is no question that there are neo-Nazis in different forms in Ukraine, whether they are in the Azov regiment or other organizations,” he added.
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/canada-failed-when-it-trained-ukrainian-troops-linked-to-the-far-right-says-nazi-hunter/wcm/cd79a966-0b2e-4251-83af-50627cdbd699/amp/
So with the full knowledge that the Canadian Army had been training the real deal in Ukraine, Trudeau was accusing the most peaceful large protest in Canadian history of being Nazis. The deputy prime mister Christina Freeland has an interesting pedigree in this regard of course.
*minister
Thanks for posting that SOQ, Efraim Zuroff knows his stuff about Nazis.
Well, given the hard-right, neo-fascist tendencies of the cuckold, Justin Trudeau’s minority government, I can’t see how the presence of Canadian trainers working with Neo-Nazis doesn’t just make perfect sense, really. They worked alongside US & UK NATO personnel, bringing 5 battalions per year up to NATO standard, in a “Peacekeeping Centre” with a sign outside showing a map of Ukraine, with an arrow pointing to Donbas, the destination of these troops.
The sign is long gone, however, the Russians hit the place with 5 cruise missiles, a couple of days into the invasion.
I’ve seen some of the stuff those Nazis get up to, I hope they didn’t learn all that War Crime stuff, like crucifying POWs, from NATO.
Canada has quite the history in that regard. Approximately 2,000 Nazi war criminals slipped into Canada after the second world war so Trudeau would have known that was a sensitive subject to begin with. He also knew there was no truth in calling the truckers Nazis of course, but sure truth is clearly not something that bothers him too much at the best of times.
Christina Freeland’s grandfather was a fully paid up Nazi and was the chief editor of a Nazi newspaper in occupied Poland. She also went to university in Ukraine and is fluent in Ukrainian, so the claim that training Azov Nazis complete with their sewn on symbols was an accident, is BS of the highest order.
This background is here important in understanding not just Trudeau’s tyrannical behaviour but also their current support of the puppet clown Zelenskyy in Ukraine. It wouldn’t surprise me if the US were not the only ones up to the dodgy Bio Lab shenanigans.
OH PULLLLEEEEZ
Canada is a WHITE NATION and has EVERY RIGHT to defend and protect its CHARACTER
WHITE
CHRISTIAN
FAMILY
HETEROSEXUAL
GOD AND LAW ABIDING
Cree, Dene, Inuit, Iroquois, Kainai Nation, Niitsitapi etc. etc.
All there before Whitey.
SOQ during the convoy: STOP SAYING EVERYONE YOU DISAGREE WITH IS A NAZI
SOQ during war in Ukraine: EVERYONE WHO THINKS THE INVASION WAS BAD IS A NAZI
SOQ during the convoy: Nobody during the trucker protests was a Nazi.
SOQ during war in Ukraine: Many influential people in the current regime are fully paid up Nazis.
“There is no question that there are neo-Nazis in different forms in Ukraine, whether they are in the Azov regiment or other organizations,”- Efraim Zuroff
Greece won’t be sending anymore weapons to Ukraine- it should be pretty obvious why that is.
soq / cavan is the same person. He accuses everyone of having multiple aliases but he’s the one doing it. you can tell by the nick name call, Trump loving, sexist comments. He’s one lonely guy considering the amount of time and times he spends on the Internet
incorrect
Totally
SOQ during the convoy – THAT NAZI FLAG WAS IRONIC AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS THE REAL NAZI
SOQ during war: SOMEHOW THE PRESENCE OF NAZIS IN UKRAINE IS RELEVANT TO THE COMPLETELY UNPROVOKED WAR CRIME BEING COMMITTED BY CORRUPT FASCIST MURDERING DICTATOR PUTIN
Where were your tears when the Ukrainians in donbass were being shelled the past 8 years.
Drowned out by you cheering on the mistreatment of any of Putin’s mercenaries sent in to start the conflict there captured by Ukraine
Cry me a ukronazi river..
Yeah, making ‘Nazi’ synonymous with ‘Ukrainian’ is the goal, nice groundwork for some ethnic cleansing, Harney.
Donbass, 8 years of Kiev shelling, cry me a ukronazi river..
Putin started that war, causing death and destruction, then invaded, causing more, not even crocodile tears from you, just enabling Russian propaganda
Putin didn’t shell Kiev.
Kiev shelled the donbass for 8 years straight. 26000 Ukrainians dead. None of which matters to you.
You could be right @AntiBot
Although I doubt it
The similarity in the prose contained within their respective posts and comments, is undeniable.
But the Same Old Queen isn’t very same at all.
He’s changed his look multiple times here.
So has dropped a fair bit of background about himself. Lots of it left lying around here, if anyone was so inclined.
My guess the replication is from following the same ‘chans’, livestreams and sources.
And using those resources. Like content, links, with access burner accounts and spare logins.
perhaps they’re obliging a very persuasive “do us a favour” request (s)
No different to controlled opposition really.
They’re not their own men.
They could easily be considered groomed if you think about it.
Nothing more to them than a pair Conspiracy Theory Mules
I think I’ll start calling them Bodger’s Pups
‘Putin didn’t shell Kiev.’
What are you talking about he spent a few weeks shelling Kyiv, murdering civilians, before withdrawing, and is now promising to shell it again in retaliation for the warship fecking itself.
‘Kiev shelled the donbass’
Because Putin sent in his precious Nazi mercenaries with lots of money and guns to start a civil war.
As oppose to the 8 years of constant Kiev shelling of the donbass killing 26000 innocent Ukrainians.
Cry me a ukronazi river..
That blood’s on Putin’s hands too.
How and why did Putin kill 26000 Russian speaking Ukrainians, shelled for 8 years by Kiev?
Oh dear, Aunty Botty, your personal critiques & insights are as wide of the mark as your takes on current affairs. I made one remark about aliases, never said anything much about Trump, not sexist, not SOQ. Your attempts to demonise SOQ are equally lacking in validity, don’t ring true & just demonstrate that you’re not a people person.
Myself & SOQ clearly share one common attribute, we’re both far too humble for our own good.
Your post is Tripe in White Sauce.
He funded and armed mercenary groups to start the conflict, Harney.
That killed 26000 Russian speaking Ukrainians?
Your definition of most peaceful is very different to everyone else’s. What makes you think there were no Nazis among the truckers making all the peaceful noise. Maybe the Canadian army trained the truckers as well.
Unfortunately, there could be Nazis anywhere, even walking down the street next to you or sitting beside you on a plane.
There may well have been Nazis or at least fascists at the Ottawa protest – as I’m sure there are at almost every anti-establishment protest these days, as they try to beef up their “anti-establishment” credentials. It’s a tried and tested means of infiltrating with a view to taking over a movement in order to turn it into something else.
There could have been plenty of alt-right sent up from the USA. In other words, fascists.
You see, Tom J, the fascination that Wokists have with fighting the battles of the past is telling. Nazis, Fascists, well they don’t really exist, outside of NATO in Ukraine, these days. They’re also obsessed with slavery, which is alive & well in Africa & W Asia but an historical matter, elsewhere.
This allows them to live in their fantasy world, ignoring real life problems & pretending they’re some sort of freedom fighters, by labelling all who dare disagree with them with anachronistic slurs.
If actual Nazis existed in the West, sure they’d chew up Wokists & spit them out.
What past battles would that be.
Energy import ban will hit Germany harder than Russia, unions warn Berlin
“I believe that stopping [energy] imports does not make sense at all,” Hoffman told German broadcaster ARD.
The official warned that “the economic consequences for Europe and Germany would be much more serious than for Russia,” highlighting that the ban “will not affect events in Ukraine.”
https://thepressunited.com/updates/energy-import-ban-will-hit-germany-harder-than-russia-unions-warn-berlin/
The puppet clown probably knew this was the way the German wind was blowing, so threw a sulk when Steinmeier was due to visit. They are since denying he rejected the visit offer of course.
“The Press United is an Online International newspaper based in New Delhi, India.”
We’ve done BASF yesterday.
That’s the thing, Hughie, India still has a free press, so it’s a great source for news that isn’t fanciful, invented nonsense or globalist propaganda.
Why is Kremlin Caveman posting at 4am? I suppose Russia is 2 hours ahead of Ireland so you’ve probably just been cattle-prodded awake and served your bowl of morning gruel, hop to it puppet, the propaganda won’t spread itself! Hail Putin!
Whining about post times is about your level Bullybag..
Whining about someone whining, absolute bottom feeder behaviour from Me Soviet Horny. Tiresome alt login troll is tiresome.
Whine whine whine..
Cry me a river BB..
You’re not a fan of Indians?
dhukh khabri tumhare liye
Haters will hate, regardless. So just be you
https://www.tiktok.com/@masood_boomgaard/video/7080177054917971205
If you bothered your lazy ass to enter the headline into a search engine you would have seen that the story is genuine and has been reported from many sources- but no, because you don’t like the story, you are going to nit pick the website- pathetic.
https://search.brave.com/search?q=Energy+import+ban+will+hit+Germany+harder+than+Russia%2C+unions+warn+Berlin
The German government hasn’t got very long left. Every government who’s joined in with these sanctions should be got rid of, asap, it’s a matter of life & death. This is a very deliberate attack on the citizens of Europe by their elected politicians, they’re out to finish the job they started with the fake pandemic lockdowns, by destroying SMEs & eventually, entire nations.
Remember how our governments used to be so obsessed about “The Economy”, it’s health was of vital importance to them, it informed every decision they made. Now, they don’t give a toss, print money, pile on the debt, while cutting off energy & food supplies to their own citizens.
Anyone who witnesses this & fails to realise that things have changed, fundamentally, that the life they’ve known is being done away with, is very, very dim.
Welcome to The New Normal.
You will own nothing.
It’s just entirely coincidental that our government is working on a bill to end property ownership. It’s good to see the government being so responsive & to be bowing to the demands of the people to have their property rights removed, immediately, they’re such a burden. Anyway, if they can’t fix the referendum, they’ll just announce that next year’s property tax is 100% of your home’s value, checkmate.
Latest news is Germany is upping llignitr production to power its brown coal power stations
And lignite is actually peat or turf
Maybe eamon Ryan should get on his bike and make for Berlin and stay there
We cannot shut down our turf while Germany expands
And their way of mining lignite is the most toxic in the world
Yeah, he should point out the error of their ways to them.
I’m sure they’ll take heed of his concerns, and then send him off to the US to spread the message there that coal burning plants are nasty. Biden will listen to him too, and all will be just dandy in no time at all.
More Yankee and Tan mercenaries surrendered in Mauripol..
Tik tock Cloutier..
‘ Tell us why you think Muslims are ragheads, stephen.. ‘
Not only are you No. 1 in Google search Charger Salmons, but you also have various locations named after you in blighty. Here’s one. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bell+End,+Rowley+Regis,+UK/@52.4820702,-2.0399156,99m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48709705f5661e43:0x87f81da55afe7da8!8m2!3d52.4820666!4d-2.0396606
TenTit Terry, your tan mercs are off to the gulags.. Not even the Geneva convention can save them.. And it’s all they deserve..
‘ Tell us why you think Muslims are ragheads, stephen.. ‘
WHOOSH !
TenTit tans off to the gulags to chop rubble for the rest of their pathetic lives.. Good enough..
Coveney, emotional? Pull the other one. Pretend empathy, maybe. Unscrupulous and well-practiced purveyor of lies and propaganda who shows a contempt for ordinary citizens, definitely
Were he genuinely concerned about the plight of the Ukrainians, he could take a spin out to Clonakilty to see this shambles.
https://www.southernstar.ie/news/state-has-no-plan-on-refuegees-4241795
Then again, I’d imagine the same thing is happening all around the country.
These are the early warning signs of a refugee catastrophe in Ireland that I was the first to warn about on here weeks ago.
600 Ukrainians refugees arriving EVERY DAY with no limits on numbers or time frame.
I asked then and I ask again now – where do you put 100,000 – 200,000 extra people in a country where there are already 10,000 homeless people living in emergency accomodation ?
No-one in government has offered a credible answer.
Buckle up lads, you’re in for a bumpy ride.
Maybe direct your question – directly to your local TD. They’re hardly going to reply to you here now are they?
In the meantime, top of the pops No. 1 – Help Rwanda. help Help Rwanda. By Pretty Prattle and the Partygoers.
As indicated by Micheal Martin’s recent comments, the Government response was reliant on accommodation pledges being made. When that didn’t materialise it all came down the State to deliver. And as per usual, we get shocking ineptitude, half-assery and a general couldn’t give a sh1te attitude.
And we pay through the nose for it.
Maybe we should do like the tans do; sell weapons to both sides but close our borders to the refugees from the conflict?
Tbh, I’d settle for overpaid and underworked civil servants actually doing their jobs.
Ireland is making commitments way over and above most countries so- who exactly is making those accommodation pledges and why are they so high?
I saw him once crying over spilt milk or was it his brother at the glambia dairy plant
New submarine commissioned in Russian Navy.
I spare a thought for the crew that drowned maybe 400
Local lad certain Elon Musk will offer to buy Broadsheet to save it .
only if Mr. Ryan throws in a few p0rno wives
It would be foolish and reckless to abandon our military neutrality. The vast majority of the public know this. Bought and paid for official’s and politicians are doing there best to change that. Any decision on changing our military alignment or joining a NATO like organisation has to go to a referendum.
There have been countless articles and reports on rising property prices and limited housing stock, declining levels of public services over the past decade. Arguably, the housing crisis affects young people most of all.
However, the same media outlets would tell you that younger people here are more supportive of open borders and unlimited uncontrolled migration than any other country in Europe. I don’t think that is truly the case.
Surely people must realise that there is an undeniable link between the 2. I.e. for every hundred thousand migrants admit there was have to be at least 25,000 houses built, education and medical care would have read provided and adversely affecting already woeful services……
if the narrative that the media and official Ireland is trying to paint is true. Then it’s cognitive dissidence on a massive scale.
The reason why the UK want to move their migrant processing to Rwanda is to deter asylum tourism chancers. There is no soft money in Africa. I have no doubt that if they get it implemented their problem with migrants coming over from France would end very quickly.
I think the government got rattled over the sharp public outcry regarding the sale of turf ban. They rightly fear protests on a level not dissimilar to that of water charges 10 years ago. The Green Brigade needs to be muzzled and reined in. It’s simple as that.
The government don’t want to have to resort to violence, though they will, if we dare resist what’s coming or rather, what’s already here.
We’re getting into the sharp end of the revolution they’ve planned for us & just want to keep as many people as they can asleep for as long as possible, at this stage.
I feel there will be an opportunity to use all that information that was published in some of the papers, recently, about how civilians can tackle tanks. Don’t recycle those pages, you might need them.
Governments don’t do revolutions. Who are they going to overthrow, themselves.
Actually the permitted price gouging is a way they will soften us up for voting against keeping our neutrality
We will be suffering so much the public will be begging for a world war so once the Russians are defeated the prices all go down
Meanwhile the war drums are deafening
They certainly backtracked about the turf pretty fast.
But that Cabbage-headed idiot who thought the middle of an energy crisis was a good time to bring in restrictions on turf use can never see that he is on a hiding to nothing here. With his gas-fired central heating and his big diesel-guzzling automobile, he’s alright jack. Fukk the begrudgers down the bog, they don’t deserve a warm home anyway.
And the irony is that farmers are way more in touch with nature than zealots like Ryan will ever be- it is in their the DNA.
Instead of the usual ban and tax and ‘you must suffer’ BS, if he was serious then he would be encouraging the agriculture industry to move to a Dutch style tech innovation model.
There is absolutely no reason why environmentalists and the agri industry should be on opposite sides of this debate.
https://dutchreview.com/culture/innovation/second-largest-agriculture-exporter/
You’re going to have to get used to an ongoing energy crisis, I’m afraid, simultaneous with a climate change crisis. You can address the first by making the second worse, or you can address the second, which will involve a better way of addressing the first. Unfortunately that will involve change which, despite the eternal complaiing that goes on about the way things are, everybody seems utterly terrified of.
Don’t call me Shirley
Captains log on day 51 of our 3 day mission to seek out Ukrainian biolabs and Nazis. I’m filling in for the Colonel who was KIA while taking a dump in a local outhouse – we’d run out of bog roll and he was sadly making some use of the top secret liberation plan at the time . About those plans – we lost 50% of our fighting capacity when we went to that “meet and greet” with the locals you so kindly arranged but sadly they all were armed to the teeth with heaps of newfangled imperialist western military hardware and had clearly run out of flowers of boom boxes to welcome us. Some points for Fantasy Fleet Command. Those new tanks you sent us to replace the destroyed Airfix ones are actually made out of cardboard and paper mache (why did they have a Blue Peter self assembly instructions with packets of blue tack and rolls of double sided tape ?). The new recruits you sent don’t actually speak Russian and don’t seem to be from around my parts of the glorious Motherland. By the way few of the lads whilst out on R an R were letting off a bit of steam and got up to a bit of high jinx with the locals (you know – rape, pillage, arbitrary executions) which the the fake news foreign media are calling war crimes. Anyway off to tuck into my delicious best before 2015 spam rations. Any news from our unsinkable navy ?
Best Sergey
Moran here shows us the media techniques at play in the Russian Ukraine conflict: let’s keep making stuff up and hope some of it sticks.
”Holy” Thursday.
”Good” Friday.
Have you actually found God Bodger?
I’ll be having a pint later on, no idea why it was banned for so long, odd?
No, I think God found him!
So long as you don’t eat a ham sandwich with it, you hard chaw!
It’s the Christmas Day pints I miss most living in Galway.
Back in the day there was one local hostelry which left its back door open for festive scoops before the turkey and ham.
You’d often see the local fuzz in there on their Christmas Day off enjoying their free Christmas quart as regulars.
Sadly lockdown killed that.
Good times.
Except you live in a smelly bedsit in Blackpool, Cork.
Am I mad in thinking it would be kinda cool to be flipped off to Rwanda, it’s a new day and a new life https://soundcloud.com/semagik/its-a-new-life-its-a-new-day
Money
UK offering £120million to Rwanda to accept tens of thousands of refugees
Musk offering $43billion to buy a web site (Twitter)
It’s certainly got to be better than staying in France.
Imagine a country being such a toilet that you’re prepared to pay someone €3000 to risk losing your life crossing the busiest shipping lane in the world to reach another country whose media tells you everyone’s a racist who hates foreigners.
Something just doesn’t add up.
But I’d say even Rwanda is better than living under Napoleon Macron.
The are three issues – firstly language – most immigrants have English as their natural second spoken language.- secondly, the black economy – because there are is no national ID card scheme it is far easier to work, hide and survive as an illegal alien in the black economy in the UK (gig economy, below minimum wage employment n clothing industry in midlands etc. – thirdly family ties and existing networks (the joys of the Empire playing boomerang) – there is also an element of lots of the displaced actually coming for warzones that ahem were the result of them being invaded or occupied by the US and the UK – the US of course leaves Europe to pick up the tab for the refugee crisis they’re ill advised neo-imperialism creates.
Why do you think Muslims are ragheads, stephen..?
I’ve told you 3 times already but like St Peter you are deaf to answers and indeed to reality judging trademark fact free scattergun insults.
I used the term to refer to those Sunnis who perpetuate or sponsor intra-Islamic ethnic cleansing against Shai Muslims based on a warped interpretation of Takfir which at an individual permits someone to be deemed an apostate (infidel) which certain Sunni factions (ISIS for example) have industrialized to justify genocidal attacks against Friday prayers at Shiite Mosques in Egypt, Iraq, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia & Syria killing thousands of people. They have also carried out church bombings in Egypt, Indonesia, Philippines, Sri Lanka and Syria.
The people who carry out such heinous crimes and all those who support and sponsor them are raghead IMO. And I make zero apology for thinking or saying that
For the third time that’s not an explanation stephen. That’s your warped view of the world.
Now tell us why you think Muslims are ragheads, stephen?
It’s a racist term, don’t use it. Racist people use crimes and atrocities committed by members of an ethnicity to smear all that ethnicity – you can’t cordon off your racism to confine it to the bad guys, it just doesn’t work. Harney’s harassment-through-repetition is dumb, but in this case you deserve it. On the other hand, Harney and Cavan are woke now, which is nice.
100% agreed Nigel..
If it fessed up instead of gaslighting, I wouldn’t bother repeating myself, but it didn’t so here we are..
It’s just a shame you aren’t so principled about using the terms Yankees and Tans.
But then I’ve never figured you to be the sharpest tool in the box.
A tool definitely but just not very sharp.
Send a woke email to the New York Yankees..
Send a woke email to Leo and Charlie Flanagan who wanted to immortalise your beloved Tans.
Much as you think you might have a point. You don’t, now go snivel to someone else.
Dunce Tan mercs getting a one way ticket to sunny Siberia to answer their life’s calling, hacking up rubble.
July, 2021:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQVWYKSXIA88b56?format=jpg&name=medium
Health Warning:. The following may cause insult and or offence. And you’ve been duly advised. Should you proceed, save any indignation for your Easter Confessions or another thread.
Ta. V
Remember that lad that killed ABM and then tried to eat him?
Well. That was the act of a mad man. Yet their religion, and relationship featured very little in the telling afterwards. Including the murder’s country of birth.
The awful, awful, murders in Sligo deserve the same discretion.
The acts of a mad man.
Leave everything else out.
Madness, and the strength of hate that can turn into criminality, doesn’t pick a religion or a skin colour or a sexuality to specially target.
It can appear anywhere.
RIP Aidan Moffitt
RIP Michael Snee
You both died on a night you arranged, and planned to be about passion, love and companionship.
What might have been your last thoughts when you realised that’s not was the murderer had in mind.
I am heartbroken for you both that that was your final thoughts in this life.
The next one will do better by ye.
xV
+ 1
What the fcuk are you on about.
To Hell and Back.
Fasting and abstinence.Examine consciousness. On the eve of the cross, Jesus made his decision. He would rather go to hell for you than go to heaven without you.
….who’s that not far from a few million in cash.
“Independent TD Michael Lowry was involved in the bid to turn the disused shopping centre into a school for Saudi students.
Lowry was brought in to help lobby for the project ……
https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/45m-in-kinahan-cash-delivered-to-jim-mansfield-jnr-lost-when-plan-to-host-saudi-students-failed-41538161.html
The ever-prescient John McGuirk has some interesting thoughts on this week’s terrible events in Sligo.
Ireland is beginning, sotto voce in today’s cultural climate, to ask the same questions Blighty started asking itself some years ago.
https://gript.ie/addressing-the-migrant-elephant-in-the-room/
Praising John McGuirk?
Says a lot about you.
McGuirk, of course, doesn’t even begin to address the avalanche of homophobic filth and racism currently swirling about in Irish Alt-Right circles. He knows the dogs he’s whistling to.
But did you actually read what he wrote or is your real name Richard Head ?
Because you know commenting on articles you haven’t read is knuckle-dragging territory.
Obviously I read it to know that he ignores the rabid, homophobic, disgusting and racist filth currently polluting parts of social media frequented by Alt-Right vermin. That’s a bigger elephant in the room that McGuirk fails to address.
Yup, I was right first time.
A knuckle-dragger who spends his day posting endless Guardian links in the misguided notion that it somehow confers on him an air of donnish credibility.
You poor thing.
But very amusing.
It’s like watching the court jester bash himself over the head with an inflated pig’s bladder full of urine in the misguided notion that he’s being funny.
Which he is but not in the way he thinks he is.
As a racist waster yourself it’s no surprise to see that you’re a sneaking regarder of other racists and homophobes and others who give such people a free pass. There’s no principle with you, only opportunistic attempts to promote particular bandwagons.
Mate – you’re nowt but a Lidl knock-off version of Owen Jones spouting woke bingo.
Always destined to be in the middle aisle with the hanging baskets and Chinese socket sets.
Here’s part of the constituency McGuirk is ignoring. National Party fanboy John McGhee. You can tell exactly how sympathetic towards the two murdered men he and other National Party louts are, and how amusing he actually thinks the Sligo horror is:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQTSi7mXoAAW7d1?format=jpg&name=medium
*** Warning – Vile, homophobic and racist comments ***
Chow down on that elephant and pretend it doesn’t exist.
Keep digging feller.
Let us know when you get to Australia.
Still nothing to say about the actual article itself.
I love it when the Sandalistas start spraying their spittle around.
John McGhee sporting his National Party hoodie with pride:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJJaasdXwAESL8I?format=jpg&name=large
Are you pretending that you can’t read now?
“McGuirk, of course, doesn’t even begin to address the avalanche of homophobic filth and racism currently swirling about in Irish Alt-Right circles. He knows the dogs he’s whistling to.”
That’s what I have to say about McGuirk exploiting two savage murders and a no less savage blinding of a third victim to fuel a discussion about immigration that doesn’t even consider how a six-year-old child could be screened to guarantee he’d never commit such acts. Forget all the native homophobia and just home in on the immigrants, is that your ‘solution’? No surprise there.
You’ve got to admit beheadings are a relatively new import to Ireland.
Get used to it old cock – there’s more on the way.
You wait till the new grooming gangs get to work.
Grooming gangs tuppence? But according to you, decades long horrific sexual abuse only makes one somewhat of a ‘cad’?
Pining for 16 years old on page 3 are we?
Weird-Oh……
You can’t resist ‘enlarging the debate’ to flash your racist ankles, can you?
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/dec/analysis-new-home-office-report-admits-grooming-gangs-are-not-muslim-problem
Here’s the Brtish government report for you:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-characteristics-of-offending/characteristics-of-group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-in-the-community-literature-review-accessible-version
It’s almost as if you don’t want to address the issue of who actually carries out the vast majority of such crimes.
And the beheadings ?
Don’t forget the beheadings.
Chop chop.
Beheadings?
Aren’t they a French thing, you know what the guillotine was designed to do.
You brits prefered to choke people to death while swinging at the end of a rope.
The British government first ignored Muslim grooming gangs, and then witch-hunted anyone who dared speak about Muslim grooming gangs- and now, they are trying to white-wash Muslim grooming gangs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RUbpEcOjXI
Cut the BS.
As the person who first posted the information detailing the savagery of the Sligo murders here I don’t think that I need to be reminded of the horrific violence accompanying the killings.
Are you hoping that it becomes a trend? Or are you acknowledging that its rarity doesn’t support the view that the hundreds of thousands of other immigrants here have displayed signs of wanting to do the same?
It’s truly special when my two favourite nincompoops socialise
John McGurik is correct.
People who come from such very different cultures sometimes have difficulty adjusting to ours, as we would to theirs- there should be nothing controversial in stating that. In the case of Muslim cultures, such may manifest itself like in some Parisian suburbs where cafes are men only- or Luton in England where young women get harassed for not dressing ‘modestly’. And it doesn’t necessarily disappear within a generation, so things like arranged marriages are ongoing.
But when it comes to the gay issue there is another level of complexity. To understand this you must start on the basis that everyone is homophobic, including gay people- that it is a gradient scale upon which we all sit, rather a binary status. And, that those who come from very homophobic cultures sometimes carry a lot more baggage, and why wouldn’t they? How could they miss?
As I said previously, when there is violent attacks, it is nearly always someone with an internal battle going on. So assuming Yousef Palani is guilty, and sane, and while I am certainly not justifying what he has done- there is a side of me which thinks he is also a victim of homophobia.
Internalised homophobia is always worse than external and in the right doses, guilt and shame will wreck anyone’s head. IMO there has been three lives taken- which is even sadder.
Nobody is born homophobic or any other type of phobic, it is distilled into them.
“when there is (sic) violent attacks, it is nearly always someone with an internal battle going on.”
Disagree with you on this. It’s funny, I’ve noticed you introducing a quite nasty theme to your comments over the last few days where you’re very quietly pushing the blame for violence against LGBT people onto LGBT people.
Almost every gay person can tell you about violence or bullying against them in their youth committed by their straight peers, however hardly any gay people would have similar stories about same from other gay people (or closeted gay people (don’t pretend we don’t always know)).
While internalised homophobia is a real thing (and a byproduct of general homophobia enacted by heterosexual society)) it is not always or necessarily (or ever IMHO) worse than general societal homophobia.
This is a very “well the women are more misogynistic than the men” alt-crank argument.
If anyone’s tone is nasty, it is yours. It is impossible to converse with you without the questioning of people’s motives- are you a gay man?
In my experience, when there is attacks like this, it is near always a closet who commits the crime. This guy (I assume) went onto a gay hook up app, on his own, and met others. That is buyer’s remorse, and is very common with guys who have not come to terms with their sexuality- the difference being that that this guy turned violent.
It is very different to what happened in Dublin recently, where a fella was badly beaten on the street by some thug who just didn’t like the look of him. That said, he has his own issues to be so triggered in the first place.
I didn’t say you had a nasty tone (altho u often do) I said it was a nasty theme in your recent comments. And yes I am a gay man (I think that this is one time when a personal question by you is worth answering because it is newsworthy in this instance).
Maybe you see more internalized homophobia because you suffer from it to a larger degree. It would explain a lot of your output on here, especially your blaming of LGBT people for homophobic violence.
The reality of life is that homophobic violence is committed by and caused by a dominant heterosexual population. Your assumption about this case is neither here nor there and fueled by your own biases.
Of course you are correct in that there are examples of homosexual people that are violent against LGBT people mechanized by internalized homophobia, but that is not the majority. And I would question your motives as to why you would suggest the opposite is true.
Nasty Oro doing his usual despicable thing
But the subject was not the general topic of homophobic violence, it was specifically about these two murders? That is not in any way blaming gay men for homophobic violence- it is just stating the obvious- that if the guy was using gay apps, he is likely to be in denial.
What I have said about internalised homophobia is pretty much accepted as the norm these days- certainly with counsellors. It is also one of the first things they will cover in a gay personal development course- I am not sure why you think otherwise.
No that wasn’t the subject but you specifically said that the below:
“when there is (sic) violent attacks, it is nearly always someone with an internal battle going on.”
Which is what I was replying to. You introduced the discussion on general violence and pointed blame at LGBT people, I disagreed. You’re as scattered sometimes.
Why do you guys have to nit pick every single thing SOQ says and berate him over it? As he says himself would you do that in real life?
Despicable carry on.
Ok there is something about one of those murders that I did not know- that one victim was beheaded. That suggests a more religious / cultural motivation than being just being in denial about his own sexuality.
Apologies.
I, like a lot of people, know John McGuirk a long time, I’ve even had some online ‘disputes’ with him.
Suffice to say any benefit of the doubt he might have been due was used up not this decade, not even the last decade, he has been a known liar and gobshyte for a long time now.
He has essentially become the go to guy for lost causes.
He was just about the only journalist at the beginning of the pandemic questioning the HSE, Holohan and the government’s response when people like you were still washing your food shopping when you got home…
https://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/patternmcguirk.jpg
And you were all about boris smashing the vaccine roll out, taking the piss out of any and all antivax points of view.
Two Face Terry..
Interestingly the Irish media’s reluctance to mention the ethnicity of the Sligo accused until they absolutely had to which I highlighted yesterday is shared by the liberal media in the US as well.
Who’da thunk it …
https://freebeacon.com/media/yes-the-media-bury-the-race-of-murderers-if-theyre-not-white/
The British media was informed by an Irish journalist – John Mooney – that the suspected perpetrator was of ‘Middle Eastern origin’. Here it’s more usual for detail to emerge once a suspect has been charged and made a court appearance.
The British media wasn’t informed by anyone.
The Daily Mail printed the suspect’s ethnicity before anyone else having obtained the information through normal journalistic practice..
The fact the Irish media chose not to report it when everyone in Sligo knew in advance means they were complicit in withholding information – something they have lots of experience at doing.
The Daily Mail was late to the show. Lurid details of the killings first appeared in ‘The Times’, courtesy of John Mooney, an Investigative journalist with the Sunday Times. Do try to keep up.
It’s also pretty obvious that gardaí / emergency service worker/s gave Mooney copious details about the suspect, the nature of the killings and the injuries sustained by the deceased.
As for the suspect’s nationality – the surname abounds in Tamil Nadu, India, and in Iran. The ‘Middle Eastern’ label given by Mooney is all anyone needed.
Charage
why is the ethnicity of the man charged of so much interest to you?
A murderer is now in custody.
Justice with be done.
And Since you’ve zero inclination to grieve, or offer condolences that come from any place of genuine decency. Or emphasise with the victims families and friends. And their respective communities.
Justice is all that should matter.
At the time the Daily Mail chose to report it the police were still searching for information about other possible victims – I would have thought the suspect’s ethnicity was quite an important factor in that wouldn’t you ?
Anyway, get used to it.
This sort of obfuscation will be happening with increasing regularity in the future.
Ireland generally follows what happens in the UK about a decade later.
‘Twas ever thus.
If you live in London now you’d swear the majority of violent crime was committed by a mystery ethnic-free race of people.
The majority of violent crime in all societies is generally committed by poorer people, or those living in poverty. And in the UK, non white communities are kept in poverty. Not something to cheer about C, it’s actually quite a nasty theme of modern UK political protocol.
If you live in London now you’d be aware that a considerable amount of violent crime is carried out by members of the Metropolitan police.
Thank you Ferg
You’ve reminded me of something London residents might have in common that local news site that caters for the Hard Alt White Paddys
Russian spondoulies
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What’s of interest to me is that English mercenaries like Aidan Aslin keep getting caught with their pants down in Ukraine and then their families go on Sky News to whine about it?
Don’t go to war if you’re a coward who can’t face the consequences
Local racists suddenly come out as LGBT supporters
https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2022/04/15/local-racists-suddenly-come-out-as-lgbt-supporters/
Parody – or is it?
I find the whole Elon Musk / Twitter story quite interesting. Twitter has clearly abused its position, especially during the pandemic. Banning experts in their respective fields without any justification other than they went against the official narrative, was disgraceful. They were and are drunk with power- big men and women- until now, when a bigger man arrives on the scene.
Musk buys 9% of shares then after having a look, decides he really doesn’t like those board and management people. Over their heads, he makes an offer to the shareholders to buy the entire outfit- otherwise he will offload the lot, and tank the value. Of course the shareholders have no ethics or even politics, their sole intent is to make as much profit as possible- so they will probably take the money and run.
And that is when it is going to be fun- absolute carnage at the top level of Twitter- and by God do they deserve it. What happens then is anyone’s guess. Musk is marketed in the Richard Branson mode of ‘cool’ guy, but I am pretty certain there is a hard-nosed side to him too.
At least he is not a Wall Street lackey like the current Twitter board, which is a good start.
*THE UNDENIABLE APPEARANCE OF SAID ELEPHANT CONJURES THE INCONSEQUENTIAL SON OF APARTHEID MINING MAGNATE BEFORE HE LEAVES AGAIN FOR SPACE… AS IF BY MAGIC
(Alternative Headline)
He’s about $40bn light on the funding front. The stock was trading in the 60’s last Oct. It’s a lowball offer with no funding organized – just like his ruse which might have landed someone else in jail to take Tesla private when he lied about there being Saudi funding behind it which there neve was. He’s would have to sell or use over half his Tesla shares as collateral. If he’s serious submit a tender at $54.20 which bypasses the board and goes straight to shareholders but he won’t as that would required a detailed filing on the funding which he doesn’t have.
But he’s put Tesla in play – of that there is little doubt – but other tech names will have serious anti-trust issues I’d guess to overcome whereas someone taking it private would be okay ? Seems odd but that would be the route which is a bit of a paradox in terms of independence / liberty / freedom of speech / hate speech standards etc.
I love how some of the cryptobros halfwits seem to think Elon Musk actually has a big pile of cash he can draw on at will.
But no, their little button mushrooms are all erect from the heady aroma of the elongated muskrats fragrant ardour.
agreed – its a popular misconception – would you lend him $40bn against Tesla stock with a P/E ratio of 150 when the Nasdaq average is 31 ! Any sort of even minor mean reversion and you are seriously underwater on the collateral side of that equation. That’s well beyond even Anglo-Irish banking maths circa 2005
Liberals breathe a sigh of relief as the Vanguard Group (a supranational investment behemoth owned by other supranational investment behemoths like BlackRock, T. Rowe Price, and the Vanguard Group) saves the Twitter Corporation from Covid-denying Russian “free speech” extremists!
https://twitter.com/consent_factory/status/1514891195654316036
Frontline health workers to get €1,000 pandemic bonus ‘in next paycheque’
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/frontline-health-workers-to-get-1000-pandemic-bonus-in-next-paycheque-41556509.html
Ask your FGer masters if that bonus is entitled to carers??
Nobody in my family has ever, ever, ever voted for Fine Gael and I can say with confidence that none of us ever, ever, ever will.
Do you ever get anything right?
The ghosts of snake island are still waiting for a retraction.
Didn’t you hear? They lulled the Moskva into a false sense of security then sank it.
Didn’t you hear, your beloved ukronazi avoz and illegal mercs all surrendered to chechens..
Cry me a ukronazi river..
How IS Anton Kuprin, anyway?
How is poroshenko, anyway?
Snigger..
Today’s useless factoid.
Mr Brightside by the Killers has not been out of the UK music charts for 20 years.
Currently No 69.
Interesting breezy non technical read minus the usual tortured prose
“The Irish economy during the century after partition” Cormac Ó Gráda,Kevin Hjortshøj O’Rourke Economic History Review May 2022
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353929181_The_Irish_economy_during_the_century_after_partition
I’ve always found Ó Gráda to have an agenda. I’m not sure anything he writes can be fully trusted.
Do point me to some articles he’s written where he has displayed this “agenda” and further enlighten me what this “agenda” is so I can reread his earlier peer group reviewed work and watch out for it
peer reviewed? Neither History nor Economics are sciences. There are always agendas, revisionists and downright liars involved in what are essentially Arts subjects
No BS updates today? – Out doing the Stations of the Cross? Kidnapped by Ukrainian Nazis? Kidnapped by Russian Nazis? Having mandatory vaxxes injected? Just could be bothered entertaining us monkies today? … only you can decide…
BS doesn’t update on Good Friday, hasn’t ever, iirc. But I don’t think I’m missing much.
Infantile name-calling seems to be the order of the day. You jackass, you!
And to you… and the jackass you rode in on… merry crucifixion day one and all…
Worth a visit on Thursday – The Big Top Limerick. Scott Bradleys Postmodern Jukebox. I think they’re in Vicar Street this Tuesday
Different takes on songs you know.
See y’all there – see if you can identify me. Man or Woman? Listen for the accent huns
Anyway – Happier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUCRA3k7w2Q
Quick mention for Declan Rice who was on fire last.
A definite future England captain and likely the subject of a massive transfer fee at the end of this season.
Thanks lads.
Very generous of you …
Russia near to defaulting on overseas debts, says ratings agency
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/15/russia-near-to-defaulting-on-overseas-debts-says-ratings-agency
The Guardian fantasises, and idiots slavishly parrot..
Ruble roaring at a quarterly high..
April 5th 2022:
‘The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas’ set Holocaust education back by decades. Now it’s getting a sequel
https://www.kveller.com/the-boy-in-the-striped-pyjamas-set-holocaust-education-back-by-decades-now-its-getting-a-sequel/
“…How has a book condemned by countless leading authorities (Holocaust historians, rabbis, Jewish cultural centers and the Auschwitz Museum) sold over 11 million copies, been translated into 57 languages, and become one of the most widely read Holocaust resources?…”
“… It seems a poorly thought out, cash-grabbing sequel is more important than proactively making amends for the damage already done to the Jewish community and Holocaust education…”
“Shocking and terrible news! The book was the worst, and probably the most successful, distortion of the Holocaust in children’s books ever!!”
https://twitter.com/EZuroff/status/1514535670001377280
“Boyne is Irish so he already has a distorted perception of Jews.”
https://twitter.com/RoraSkyfire/status/1514540644953436161
Nearly one in six accommodation pledges for incoming Ukranian refugees have been withdrawn
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/nearly-one-in-six-accommodation-pledges-for-incoming-ukranian-refugees-have-been-withdrawn-41557412.html
“More than half of the people who pledged accommodation to incoming Ukrainian refugees have either changed their minds or are uncontactable so far, the Irish Red Cross (IRC) have said. Close to one in six (16pc) of the 25,200 accommodation pledges made in Ireland so far have been withdrawn, while 40pc of the homeowners contacted by the IRC have not been available…”
On the other hand…
“The Red Cross says it attempted to get in touch with these families, but in many cases, the phones rang out. A representative of the Red Cross admitted this week that there is no facility for the families to return calls, as there is nobody to answer them.”
https://www.southernstar.ie/editorial/vetting-decision-smacks-of-panic-4241773
Quelle horreur! Quebec’s Ministry of Health is forced to apologize after tweeting a link to a PORNHUB video featuring feet instead of government COVID data
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10722173/Quebecs-Ministry-Health-apologizes-tweeting-link-PORN-video-instead-COVID-page.html
And in the same vein – Pope Fx indulges his foot fetish
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10720675/Pope-Francis-washes-feet-dozen-inmates-Rome-prison.html
Now this is an interesting angle from the WHO- and a brilliantly scathing commentary from WION presenter Palki Sharma.
‘I hope the world comes back to its senses’: World treats ‘black and white lives’ unequally, says WHO chief
https://www.wionews.com/world/i-hope-the-world-comes-back-to-its-senses-world-treats-black-and-white-lives-unequally-says-who-chief-470945
Imagine what this lot would be like if the pubs were closed
*shudder
Radio station accuses council of offering adverts in return for presenters not expressing opinions
via The Irish Times
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/radio-station-accuses-council-of-offering-adverts-in-return-for-presenters-not-expressing-opinions-1.4848356
Go on the Wexicans
English loser quits
Joe Root: ‘The right decision to resign as captain – for himself and England’
English loser quits *2
Aidan Aslin captured by Russian forces
In the absence of the usual Friday music thread, here’s a tune for today.
“When they kick at your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun…”
The Clash’s Guns of Brixton reimagined with muted martial rhythms by Dub Mentor with whispered lyrics by Chinese Poet Yan Yun.
https://youtu.be/kydWe2VRwkk
Nice one Otis! Been missing the excitement of the music thread.
Stand and deliver (option B).
Thank you