“Important Milestone”


From top: St Vincent’s Hospital, Dublin 4; Minister for Health Stepehn  Donnelly this morning

This afternoon.

The cabinet has agreed to the relocation of the National Maternity Hospital.

Via RTÉ News:

The Minister for Health, Stephen Donnelly, hailed Government approval for the hospital relocation plan as an “important milestone” for maternity services in Ireland.

Mr Donnelly said the new legal framework would ensure all legally permissible services will be available in the new NMH.

It will also “prevent any influence, religious or otherwise, on the operation of the new hospital” and “safeguard the State’s significant investment in the hospital”.

Speaking following the Cabinet meeting, the minister said that there will never be any religious influence on the services which will be provided at the new NMH.

There you go now.

Cabinet agrees to proceed with new maternity hospital (RTE)

Earlier: Expectant


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24 thoughts on ““Important Milestone”

      1. Kin

        The states investment ?
        The state is the government and they are using taxes extracted from the people of Ireland to build an asset that the church owns through a myriad of shelf companies
        The minister has not revealed the number of terminations carried out by the st vincents hospital group
        If it’s anything like the Mather hospital group it will be shockingly low

        Anyway this lot will just do whatever they want no matter what the future implications are

          1. Kin

            I believe in abortion but not on demand
            That’s always my stance
            We never had anything but no or abortion on demand

            What we see in the USA today is the result of abortion on demand or the roe vs wade
            We now see the pickle the USA is in and the judges empowered in protecting the constitution now the bad guys all because of bad laws which are in contravention of individual states
            So please none of this aquising me of being a genocidal lunatic
            I think the headline is very apt if you insert another l where the e was with implications that will last years after the people of Ireland fund this project and it’s built
            The consultants will be happy with their bells and whistles in 5star luxuary

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      Yay! More church control of women’s health. It’s worked sooo well in the past.

      1. newsjustin

        Well, look, it’s true that no organisation in human history has done more for human health (men, women and children) than the Church.

        But my initial post was tongue in cheek. It seems a very complicated case and I don’t pretend to understand it entirely, but I hope ( and expect) that this is a huge improvement for maternal health in Ireland.

          1. Tom

            Hospital system literally founded by the Church, as was modern nursing. But whether you’re interested in knowing that is a different matter.

        1. Kin

          I was amazed Islam was way ahead
          As the Roman Catholic pope Gregory’s crusaders was slaughtering Middle Eastern Christian’s Jews and anything Arab along with pillaging the holy land
          Islam were tending for the sick in hopsptals

  1. Gringo

    In a way you have to admire them coz it’s the finest con job since the national broadband plan.Wonder what the next one will be. It’s important to get these scams in place before the dreaded Shinners get too powerful.

  2. Tom

    Fearganainm, your linked article is out by about 450 years and by an entire religion … modern hospital system begins within the Church …

    From Britannica (just one example):

    It can be said, however, that the modern concept of a hospital dates from 331 CE when Roman emperor Constantine I (Constantine the Great), having been converted to Christianity, abolished all pagan hospitals and thus created the opportunity for a new start. Until that time disease had isolated the sufferer from the community. The Christian tradition emphasized the close relationship of the sufferer to the members of the community, upon whom rested the obligation for care. Illness thus became a matter for the Christian church.

    About 370 CE St. Basil the Great established a religious foundation in Cappadocia that included a hospital, an isolation unit for those suffering from leprosy, and buildings to house the poor, the elderly, and the sick. Following this example, similar hospitals were later built in the eastern part of the Roman Empire. Another notable foundation was that of St. Benedict of Nursia at Montecassino, founded early in the 6th century, where the care of the sick was placed above and before every other Christian duty. It was from this beginning that one of the first medical schools in Europe ultimately grew at Salerno and was of high repute by the 11th century. This example led to the establishment of similar monastic infirmaries in the western part of the empire.

    1. Fearganainm

      “begins within” followed by “abolished all pagan hospitals” says so much.

      I’d say that in different parts of the world, at different times, societies came up with various ideas for dealing with the sick and a papal flag doesn’t belong on all of them.

      1. Tom

        “Pagan hospitals” neither amounted to a hospital system, nor made a lasting impact, nor involved a standard of care and respect befitting the term “hospital”.

          1. Tom

            That’s always a possibility but my reading of this area is that the historical import and uniqueness of Church re: the hospital system is well recognised by non-Christian scholars or at least by scholars who are writing in a non-apologetic fashion. It’s not like recent, purely secular scholarship has demonstrated that the hospital system was alive and well in substantially the way we know it today (open-access, patient-centred, planned and reliable and lasting, etc.) pre-Christianity.

  3. Gringo

    The holy Marys of the poor mouth have played a blinder. My contempt for those hypocrites stems from a scene I witnessed a few years ago where a certain holy Mary spent a week shredding incriminating documents in a locked room, to save the order from having to pay back money they had stolen from people with an intellectual disability. That’s the true ethos of these so-called religious organisations.

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