Monkey Business

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HSE CEO Paul Reid

This morning.

Via RTÉ News:

HSE CEO Paul Reid Reid said that there is evidence in Europe that vaccinating health care workers is a good idea.

He added that monkeypox is a mild self-limiting illness that people generally recover from in weeks, and that it does not spread easily between people, generally skin to skin contact – although there is nothing to say that it will not be airborne in the future.

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47 thoughts on “Monkey Business

  1. Hank

    This reminds me of when he was speaking about Omicron – he sounds almost disappointed that it’s relatively mild..

  2. E'Matty

    If we hadn’t had the past two years of Covid hysteria, everyone would recognise the hysteria being generated around monkeypox. A mild illness that one recovers from in a couple of weeks even without medication and commonplace each year on the African Continent. Nobody would pay any attention to it had society not been so heavily conditioned with fear during the Covid pandemic. We’d all be asking “What’s the big fuss?”. Unless monkeypox has changed or being altered dramatically, it’s a nothing virus. More chickenpox than smallpox. The focus on it though by media and healthcare officials is extremely suspicious and why there is such focus remains to be seen.

    1. scoops yeah?

      I wouldn’t have thought the ‘hysteria’ was any greater than with spikes of cases of other viruses in the past such as swine flu, SARS etc. All the coverage that I’ve seen or heard has been very measured about the risk posed.

      1. f_lawless

        Sure isn’t the above quote from the RTE article the perfect example of the hysteria being generated? The Chief Executive of the HSE, with no expertise on the matter, indulging in wild speculation: “although there is nothing to say that it will not be airborne in the future”. and then RTE deeming it fit to publish such an outrageous statement without challenge.

        I’m assuming there must have been some subsequent backlash behind the scenes because that section from the article has now been changed without explanation.

        It now reads:

        “Mr Reid also said that there is evidence in Europe that vaccinating health care workers is a good idea.

        Monkeypox is a mild self-limiting illness that people generally recover from in weeks, he said.”

        1. K. Cavan

          In fact, flawless, if you were being taught about Monkey Pox or any Pox virus, the first thing you’d learn is that they are physically large viruses, they did not evolve to be airborne.
          Obviously, I know more about Viruses than Reid but he’s being allowed to parade his ignorance & he’s talking utter rubbish here, it’s like suggesting a giraffe might evolve into an elephant, at some time in the future.
          This is propaganda, just as their promotion of the Fake Covid Pandemic was.
          Even traditional Innoculation Vaccines cary a risk every time they are used & any such use should not be as a general prophylactic for a mild disease.

        2. Nigel

          Yeah, the parsing, inferring and conjecture required to turn monkeypox coverage into hysteria is positively backbreaking.

      2. SOQ

        The real comparison to be made is with other outbreaks of same.

        Was any previous outbreaks of Monkeypox hyped up in this manner? No.

        Still, it is good to see so many expressing scepticism about all of this- people are finally waking up.

    2. Nigel

      The only hysteria about monkeypox is in the reactions of you lot to stories about monkeypox.

  3. GiggidyGoo

    Here’s a list of all sorts of poxes of this type we can expect to be announced soon.
    Orthopoxviruses
    Camelpox virus
    Cowpox virus
    Ectromelia virus
    Bonopox
    Horsepox virus
    Monkeypox virus
    Raccoonpox virus
    Skunkpox virus
    Taterapox virus
    Uasin Gishu virus
    Volepox virus

    Plus many more types of pox.
    https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/diseases.html

    1. K. Cavan

      The Bonopox is a particularly virulent virus, you start spoutung platitudinous nonsense about “isolation, vaccination, desolation” while simultaneously becoming obsessed with wealth, privilege & replacing Europeans with Africans, though, of course, you get the head of your “charidee” to say that.
      This progresses to feverish hallucinations that you’re being followed everywhere by a bald man in a hat, carrying a guitar & that you are missing something but you don’t know what it might be.
      There’s no known cure, apart from someone taking you aside to tell you the game’s up.

  4. anolderman

    How much did he spend? Is this the new form of world stealth tax to keep USA afloat. Got to make those fivers move about, keep that money velocity going. I wonder! Medicine designed in the nature of fees!

    1. K. Cavan

      Well, anolderman, in the Digital Surveillance State that our political leaders want enforced, nobody will have a choice about whether to take the latest fad injections, if you want to continue a normal life. If your “device goes red” in China, you’re in big trouble & that’s the type of future that’s envisioned for us by Klaus Schwab, who’s currently hosting the CEO of Pfizer & the President of The EU Commission at his fascist gathering in Davos.
      Von der Layen made a cliché-ridden speech in which she claimed that “solidarity” to “recover from Covid” required “out-of-the-box” thinking. She meant “outside the box” of course, as the former is a term applied to pre-assembled consumer goods.

  5. Fergalito

    What does “Mr Reid also said that there is evidence in Europe that vaccinating health care workers is a good idea” even mean?

    IDKWTF!?

    1. benblack

      The EU Commission has redefined the term health care worker to include zoo keepers – with approval from the you know WHO.

  6. f_lawless

    Two quotes that stood out for me in the past few days:

    “With monkeypox, we’re really seeing this entire international biosecurity state with the #WHO at its head…trying to normalize this endless state of emergency based on whatever disease they want…” Michael Senger, US attorney

    “WHO records 5 pandemics in the past 120 years…Pandemics have therefore been rare – once per generation…However, as pandemics are very loosely defined by WHO, it Is not unreasonable to assume that a large bureaucracy dependent on pandemics to justify its own existence, and heavily invested in surveillance for new strains of virus, will find reason to declare far more pandemics in the future.” Dr. Daivd Bell, served as a scientist at the WHO for 10 years

    1. Nigel

      – there has been no ‘state of emergency’ associated with monkeypox.

      – monkeypox hasn’t been declared a pandemic. Nobody has ven hinted at suggesting it, except, erm, you lot.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        You have a severe problem with understanding what was written. At no stage did he or anyone else quoted above say the monkey pox was classed as a state of emergency or that a state of emergency was associated with it.
        He, nor anyone else quoted above said monkey pox was a pandemic, nor hinted at it.

        So, why are trying to say he/they did?

          1. GiggidyGoo

            He’s just explained it to you below. You’re a case of serious dumbness.
            Try harder.

          2. Nigel

            The comment is the answer. People can read it and decide whether my response was appriopriate or not. They can skip you straining for a gotcha, and the usual subsequent string of your tired insults, if they like. Have the last word.

          3. GiggidyGoo

            Hard to get a last word with you posting. We’ll see.
            In the meantime, do your normal high tailing.

      2. f_lawless

        It doesn’t have to be declared a pandemic or even a state of emergency. The intention is to normalise the idea that from now on there’s a baseline threat always looming which justifies the relinquishing of civil liberties and coercion of citizens’ behaviour.

        As comedian/socio-political commentator CJ Hopkins puts it:
        https://off-guardian.org/2022/05/26/monkeypoxmania/

        ‘The showrunners at GloboCap may be preternaturally evil, but they aren’t stupid. Only the most hopelessly brainwashed New Normals would go along with another “apocalyptic pandemic” before the current one has even been officially cancelled.

        No, unfortunately, odds are, we’re just getting a preview of what “life” is going to be like in the New Normal Reich, where the masses will be perpetually menaced by an inexhaustible assortment of exotic pathogens and interchangeable pseudo-pathological threats.

        The New Normal was never about Covid specifically. It was always about implementing a new “reality” — a pathologized-totalitarian “reality,” not so much ruled as discreetly “guided” by unaccountable, supranational, non-governmental governing entities, global corporations, and assorted billionaires — in which Covid, or monkeypox, or kangaroopox, or any other viral zoonotic disease, or any climate-related or economic development, or aberrant ideological or behavioral tendency, could be used as a pretext to foment another outbreak of mindless mass hysteria and impose additional restrictions on society.’

        1. Nigel

          This:

          ‘Only the most hopelessly brainwashed New Normals would go along with another “apocalyptic pandemic” before the current one has even been officially cancelled.’

          is the sort of inferential thing you have to come up with to make the perfectly obvious and explicable behaviour of groups or organisations consistent with your portrayal of then as malign and sinister. Nice to tip the hand there with ‘climate related’ too, while India is roasting, records are being broken across Europe and NE Africa is endurring drought-related famine.

          You’re acting as if reporting on monkeypox is something new and unique, after decades of media reporting on bird flu, swine flu, ebola and the rest. Organisations monitor disease outbreaks, media reports on them, sometimes, sometimes not. The mass hysteria is from the people trying to rurn it into a Plot Against Humanity.

    2. f_lawless

      Further context-
      I really recommend this article by David Bell for helping to clarify what’s going on with the proposed WHO pandemic treaty, plus an insight into the metamorphosis of the WHO over the years and the trajectory it’ss on.
      https://brownstone.org/articles/a-primer-on-the-who-the-treaty-and-its-plans-for-pandemic-preparedness/

      “These proposed rules and structures, if adopted, would fundamentally change international public health, moving the center of gravity from common endemic diseases to relatively rare outbreaks of new pathogens, and building an industry around it that will potentially be self-perpetuating.

      In the process, it will increase external involvement in areas of decision-making that in most constitutional democracies are the purview of elected governments answerable to their population.

      1. Nigel

        Yeah, setting up a system to respond to types of events that occured five times in the last hundred years and killed anything from thousands to millions just doesn’t make any sense. Why, when something can be predicted reliably to be going to happen, would you want to prepare for it? Makes no sense. This, of course, is the same model of reasoning applied to not preparing for the effects or trying to mitigate the causes of climate change.

        1. f_lawless

          You’d make a great clinical study. Time and time again it’s pointed out to you that repeatedly indulging in strawman arguments just make you look foolish, and yet still you persist!

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