The Pipes Are Melting

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“I look forward to seeing already the implementation on the ground in my own town €5m has been spent on fixing leaking pipes. Pipes that had local authorities out every other day, fixing pipes along the road, such a waste of resources. Businesses, substantial businesses without water, whole housing estates without water and when you look into the ground which I did myself, the pipes had just simply melted….

And of course, water charges are not popular but the social benefits that we will reap now and into the future and already the plans for Roscommon are being implemented and people will in the very short-term I expect and we’ve been told will benefit from that. We will all reap it in the end. We are building something for the future here. We are addressing problems that under the previous system could not be addressed in the past. So let us not be swatted from our goal in returning this country to its productive very best by those who talk but don’t have a clue how to do it.”

Mayo TD Michelle Mulherin (Fine Gael) speaking in the Dáil this morning on Irish Water.

There you go now.

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51 thoughts on “The Pipes Are Melting

  1. nottoputtoofineapointonit

    Classic politician’s syllogism with single example.

    “We must do something; This is something; Therefore, we must do this”

  2. Jimmy Jazz

    When were at our “productive very best”? Just wondering what it’ll be like when we return there.

  3. Rugbyfan

    100 percent chance this lady will lose her seat next time round…..she’ll have plenty of time to go looking for pipes!

  4. Gubbsjuk

    It’s so easy to go against water charges isn’t it. All these politicians making headway by going with the easy just say no. They never have an alternative option.

    We can’t have another winter where the option of running your water all night instead of paying for a plumber is the solution.

    People don’t appreciate things when they’re free.

    As for the people out harassing the guys doing their work installing meters….why aren’t they in work? Can’t believe there’s so many people with nothing better to do.

    They’re the same people who will run the water all night without any thought for conservation.

    Get a job, pay for the water and stop making a nuisance.

    1. Mark Dennehy

      As for the people out harassing the guys doing their work installing meters….why aren’t they in work? Can’t believe there’s so many people with nothing better to do.

      Dunno if you noticed, but we had a bit of an economic upset just there, lots of people lost their jobs, the register’s only stable because of emigration, and so on?

      Get a job, pay for the water and stop making a nuisance.

      Ah, right. Well, that explains that then.

    2. Wayne Carr

      Damn straight. I was in the Post Office the other day (buying stamps) and there was a guy there in a tracksuit, claiming dole, and having his young son go into the toilet to turn on the taps. He threw bricks at every Garda car he saw on the way home, swearing as he went. He was a real sub-human scumbag. And I know from talking to people that all people opposed to water charges are exactly like that.

      The fairest system is the one that charges everyone the same. That way, these people you mention, who leave their taps on all day and all night (literally all day and all night, and the DO exist), pay them same as lefty, greeny, conservationist ars*h*les. That’s fair.

    3. Nialler

      Gubbs

      Personally, I don’t know anyone who has ever run their taps all night to avoid them freezing. I agree, phone a plumber and get them insulated.

      But the water charges and the way this government has gone about forcing them upon us with unreasonable demands for personal information to be supplied to an albeit semi-state company with an eye to privatisation and the reckless waste of money is setting it up was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Let’s not forget the veiled threats last night of putting liens on your property or now jail time today (they better build bigger prisons).

      Six years of austerity, swingeing cuts, families struggling to pay for basic necessities (excluding water) it’s a case of the Irish people having one too many burdens loaded upon their shoulders. Trust me this uprising is not solely about water, it’s about the loss of trust, confidence, patience with a government which was elected on promises and a fresh start that has failed to meet one point in their election manifesto.

      As for the ability to go out an march, who says they’re jobless, I see a lot of women and children at them and able bodied men who may have taken a day off so I’ll just ignore that comment. Finally the protest on the 10th is a Wednesday, you will definitely see how the population reacts, I certainly will be out on that day, I work for myself, I’ll take those hours out at a loss and I’ll march to show my support and indignation at how this government has treated with disdain the populace of this country.

      Niall

      1. Gubbsjuk

        It’s hugely common for people to run their taps all night. It’s a regular thing in Dublin to do come winter. Concentrating on this point, how do we stop this happening without meters? Every winter we have reduced pressure enforced on all users of the system because people are too cheap to sort out their own problems.

        1. JC

          It is not hugely common, that is a fabrication. I dont and have never in my live met anyone who left their taps running. Stop confusing the 60s with now. Because you my friend need to live in reality. Running taps is not a problem.

          1. Gubbsjuk

            Without meters we can’t tell. There’s the problem.
            No clue where the leaks are or if it’s people running taps.

          2. ABM's Bloodied Underwear

            Without meters we can’t tell, yet you know it’s hugely common.

            Not too bright, are you?

        2. Nialler

          Again I’ll state that I don’t know anyone who does that. 23 years since I bought my house and I can remember two winters cold enough for something like that to happen, and it didn’t.

          One other fabrication to mention that Mr Kelly mentioned yesterday was that we need meters to identify leaks, outside the meter is the mains, inside the meter is your house, if it’s inside your meter (it’s tracking usage) then the leak is your problem, if it’s outside the meter there’s now way for it to identify leaks – does he think that we’re all idiots?

          N

          1. Gubbsjuk

            Just because you do not know anyone doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

            It’s easy to call something a fabrication.

            The locations in Dublin where water meter installers are being harassed are areas of poor education. They struggle with reasoned argument and are easily led.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gSQg1i_q2g

          2. Nialler

            So you’re telling me that they can track water leaks on the mains system before the water reaches the meter.

            NO, that’s a fabrication, and if you’re implying that I’m from a working class area, you are correct, I am neither easily led and never struggle with reasoned argument.

            Simple fact – water meters, meter, they measure the throughput of water into your home, they do not measure the water flow from your home this is basically the same figure as going in. If your usage quadruples then there’s a possibility of a leak, this is in your house therefore your responsibility. If there’s a leak under your road 50 m from the nearest water meter I can in no way figure out how this may track and identify the leak unless they have high pressure meters at the end of each road and the usage levels don’t match up, I doubt this very much.

            So in plain english – a fabrication by Alan Kelly.

          3. Dissident Citizen Frilly!

            Gobsjite
            Define an area of poor education?

            Please.

            And since you have taken it upon yourself to remark that it is a common thing in Dublin to leave taps on overnight, I’m entitled to think you know Dublin very well. So tell me this.
            Have meters been installed in Rathdown Park D6W , Raglan Road D4, and say Savel Park Road SDC?
            Ta

        3. Starina

          where on earth do you live that people leave their taps on all night?! Have never spoken to a person who’s done that — in fact anytime the water goes in winter it’s because the council has turned it off due to shortages and leaving it on wouldn’t do a blind bit of difference.

        4. CousinJack

          @Gubbsjuk, as a resident of D4 I can tell you that it is utter sh*te you are talking.
          Besides freezing rarely happens in D4 as its next to teh sea and gains from the heat island effect of being in a city.
          Time we stopped subsiding rural fools, as they are clearly not using the libraries and other educational faciltiies Dublin tax payers are supporting

  5. Soundings

    Thank God that nutjob has less than 16 months left in her political career. She’s the third ranking FGer in a five-seater constituency which includes Enda. Even with a 30% share of vote in 2016, she’ll be toast.

    1. scottser

      tis an awful shame that curse on the mayo team winning the all ireland doesn’t apply to FG winning elections as well.

  6. Duh

    is she not meant to be talking about the 34th Amendment (establish a non-political body to nominate judges, subject to Oireachtas ratification) ?

    i guess this is part of Enda’s call to sell Irish water to the Irish population.

  7. Anonanoanom

    I like many hate all the cut backs, the cuts in services, the levy on my wages and yes i hate this water debacle. But are people forgetting why all this happened. This government is going to be hammered come election time, Yet they done, of course the actual people took the burden, one hell of a job sorting the mess finna fail left. Very unpopular descions were made but they had to be done. Its a shame their handling of certain things will over shadow the good job.

    1. scottser

      they actually did a shockingly bad job of our recovery by turning private bank debt into sovereign debt. if they had cajones they’d have reduced our overall debt into something a bit more manageable and the banks could have been made to lend at a reasonable rate to business and mortgage applicants.. their ‘job creation’ initiatives were simply swapping proper paid jobs for internships and reducing social welfare. they reduced access to third-level education by increasing registration fees. they presided over the largest increase in emigration in years. homelessness and poverty is up while vultrure capitalists are buying your country from under your nose.

      yeah, good job FG.

      1. Anonanoanom

        The bank debt was FF. And they’ve done an absolutely fantastic job. Instead of the titanic sinking to the bottom it’s its just barely a float. Id take this government anyway over FF SF. God help us if that coalition ever happens

    2. SOMK

      Firstly if by some miracle FF won the election in 2011 I doubt there’s be any difference in policy. Secondly austerity in general has been a disaster, it’s retarded growth in the EU (which lags behind growth in the US, which hasn’t undergone austerity). The burden as you say was private speculation by developers, banks in Ireland and by the German banks who lent money so recklessly to Irish banks.

      And you also have to look at what was cut and wasn’t cut, some of the things that were cut included community employment schemes, rape crisis/spousal abuse centres (spousal abuse goes up during economic hardship BTW), funding for travelers has been cut effectively 100%, I’m sure it must have been really, really difficult for the party that cheer led the murder of John Ward to cut traveler funding 100%, I bet that must have kept them up aaaaaaaall night.

      In other words this talk of hard choices is utter PR rubbish and spin, they did what the Troika told them to do and they interpreted the troika mandate in a such a way as to go after the most vulnerable and weakly positioned people in Irish society, the young, the sick, the abused, the impoverished and travelers, they didn’t make ‘hard’ choices, they made the easiest ones.

  8. Jack Ascinine

    Walking around looking at pipes, reaping it in the end. Woman sounds sexually frustrated to me, and no wonder. When your face is planted in the back of Enda’s ass who would want a go of you. The good news is at least we know we’ll get rid of both of them at the same time.

  9. Anne

    This is more of it.

    It was a Freudian slip..she clearly meant the pipes are a burstin’.

    Anything to have a go huh? huh?

  10. CousinJack

    If the pipes are melting I suggest that this is because local politicians insisted that the council used locally made pipes that were inadequate for purpose. Just a coincidence that the guy with the local paper pipe plant was the cousin of the county manager and a contributor to the local fuedal political family.
    Thats Rural Ireland folks

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