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The email [below] gently plopped into our inbox this morning.

It may be a scurrilous trick or, indeed, a delicious treat.

Either way Chompsky we felt it worth sharing for the day that’s in it.

*pause*

Anon writes:

1. They had a meeting on Tuesday (4 people in the room) they are going to put out that they are not metering. Person of 1 in a house will be sent a bill of €176.00, two people or more doesn’t matter how many they will be charged €276.00 per year, this will be released today id say, Now they are not going to mention that this is only for 2015/2016 to get the government through the election,from 2017 it will be metering and that will be over €500 per year. So we will be back to square one,
2. They have not received over 700,000 letters back it’s more like 600,00 now this IS including the no consent forms, they actually don’t know how many have signed up because ALL the letters are in a warehouse in Cork, so people that have filled in the forms, their PPS details are in an unsupervised warehouse. The reason being is because people sent back sh*t and bangers and other stuff in the letters,
3. The CEO’s contract was only ever 18 months and he will be paid 350k to leave…

Um.

Anyone?

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27 thoughts on “Water Divining

      1. Cian

        I doubt there’s even been 700k postal returns – no matter what’s counted. It’ll be mostly online. I saw one claim of 200k postal, again ignoring online and claiming only 200k as the total

  1. AG

    So a bill of over €500 per year means you’re using 102.4 cubic metres of water as Irish Water charges €4.88 per 1,000 litres (1 cubic metre)? So that’s 102.4 cubic metres for both services – water in and water out? So essentially a household is using 102.4/2 = 51.2 cubic metres of water in to get to this estimate.

    But that’s 102.4 cubic metres (or 51.2) on top of the free allowance of 30,000 litres (30 cubic metres) per household per service (water in and water out so it’s actually an allowance of 60,000 litres). So in total a bill of €500 means you’re using 162.4 cubic metres of water, inclusive of this free allowance? So for water in consumption, that’s an estimate of 81.2 cubic metres.
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/environment/water_services/water_charges.html

    That’s a crazy estimate. In the UK the average estimate per person is 54.7 cubic metres per year – 150 litres per day. To use 81.2 cubic metres per year, you’d have to be using 222.4 litres per day – or 148% of what the estimate per person is. http://www.waterwise.org.uk/data/resources/25/Water_factsheet_2012.pdf

    I’m aware that this is a simplistic estimation based on a single occupant, but if you’re talking about children, you’ve an extra allowance factored in there too.

    Also, if I were going to leak something, I’d make sure my spelling and grammar were correct.

    1. Robyn

      I suppose there’s some sort of verification and you’re not just expecting a light hearted website like Broadsheet to be held to the (supposedly) high standards that journalists are held to?

      I just saw it as an email presented as is, for us to make up our own minds as to whether it is genuine, fake, or a mixture of both.

    2. rotide

      Broadsheet positions itself as a little more than a ‘light hearted website’

      It’s impossible to draw any sort of conclusion from a copy/paste from a purported ’email’ without any sort of background information.

      It’s not like I want to see the headers, just some sort of description of the source.

      1. Spartacus

        At a wild guess, I’d say it’d be a -273 degree day in Hades before Broadsheet is answerable to you and your demands.

  2. Blublu

    Does anyone know… I live in a 3 bed flat within a house that has two other flats. What will the overall charge be for the house for the year or will we be charged directly? Our landlady took a €250 water deposit when we moved in 2 months ago

    1. Clampers Outside!

      Kill The Poor’s inspection was fruitless, I’ll have to run your cards through our scanner, just to be sure.

      In all fairness, you could nearly put a deposit on a house with all the extra deposits landlords will be looking for. Thank be to James P Sullivan I’m free of the rental market, all the best Blublu!

      1. Blublu

        Helpful, thanks.

        To be fair I didn’t want to pay it but there was massive demand for the place and the landlady wanted it. It’s pretty clear in the lease that it is a deposit pending the payment of water charges by the lessor. To spell it out to the idiots there is no risk of me not getting the balance of what is not paid. Apologies if you are finance boffins and are scoffing at me missing out on about €2.50 in interest…

        1. will-billy

          don’t mind them. your landlady erroneously thought she might be held liable for your water bill but this is not correct and you should ask for her to return this money to you

  3. offMooof

    Populist rabble rousers will use this to exploit the public mood and affect political reform unik right thinking people who appreciate that the nordic model is based on pivatisation, weeding out coruption and massive social mobility. Wait.

    1. Alfred E. Neumann

      But what if coruption and rabble rousers use this to affect political mood unik pivatising the nordic exploit and reform right thinking model people who appreciate the public mood that weeds out massive social mobility? That’s what’s keeping me awake this afternoon.

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