60 thoughts on “De Friday Papers

  1. Batty Brennan

    A broadcasting tax on tablets and smartphones? At present, the ownership of a TV and the consequent RTE luvvies tax is opt-in for most.

    If they push ahead with this, I see a bright future for pitchfork manufacturers.

  2. Get Out!

    What happened to Dan Boyle’s screed about Borris Johnson?

    Did you realise after publication that – even for Dan Boyle – it was too full of guff and nonsense?

  3. GiggidyGoo

    Slow day yesterday for political kite flyers, and their media bosses. Re-hash of the ‘communications charge’ old story.
    In the meantime, still no descriptions of the alleged rapists/assaulters in Courtown. Why is the lid being kept on it? Why the misleading references to Kilkenny and Waterford? Who no journalists chasing the story?

    1. Charger Salmons

      IT.

      ” Contrary to misinformation on certain social media accounts, there is nothing to suggest asylum seekers from a nearby emergency accommodation facility were involved in the incident.

      Investigators have been reluctant to share descriptions of the alleged attackers due to their young age, sources said. A number, or perhaps all, of the suspects are underage. ”

      However I’m still at a loss to understand how, if the police know the identities of the suspects as was reported yesterday, they haven’t been questioned yet.

  4. ReproBertie

    Oops! Bojo’s majority slips to 1 as the Lib Dems take Brecon and Radnorshire. Another pro-Remain MP elected to the British Dáil.

    1. ReproBertie

      Looking at the results I see the Monster Raving Looney Party candidate beat the UKIP candidate.

      Also the C&UP candidate’s vote was down 9.6% while the Sasamach candidate picked up 10.5%. I remember being mocked for saying the Sasamach party would split the C&UP’s vote handing seats to Remain candidates in an election.

    2. martco

      @Repro, this is good news however what do you reckon on the Lib Dems in a GE? is their system not gamed to ensure its always Tory v Labour?

      (and Labour got utterly destroyed last night)

      1. some old quare

        A GE = 1 of 2 things- Tory/Farage or Labour/Lib Dem coalition.

        Farage has never really been tested in national elections. There may be a sizeable ‘stick it to the EU’ vote which will not transfer and his only policy so far is to privatise the NHS which he’ll certainly back peddle on.

        Libs on the other hand are holding their nose at Corbyn but the opportunity to cancel Brexit or at least water it down means they’ll go for it .

      2. ReproBertie

        Due to the repeated ineptitude of the British government, a UK election will be pretty much a one issue election. WIth Labour still to decide where they stand on Sasamach and the Leave vote split between the C&UP and the Sasamach party the Remain alliance of the Greens, Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru and possibly the SNP will hoover up seats.

        There is no corresponding Leave alliance and I don’t see a narcissist like Bojo being happy to lead a much reduced C&UP, which would be the outcome should they enter an alliance with the Sasamach party.

        One things for sure, this result won’t see Britain’s unelected teaboy Taoiseach rushing for an election to try and get a mandate for No Deal Sasamach. It will be interesting to see if he survives until Christmas.

        1. martco

          there’s not much on surviving this side of Christmas but the odds on him being done sometime in 2020 is in to 4/11 now already

    3. Cian

      Anyone read BoJo’s rant back in 2007 when Gordon Brown became PM

      Starts with:
      “It’s the arrogance. It’s the contempt. That’s what gets me. It’s Gordon Brown’s apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It’s at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.”

      His description of Tony Blair being elected in the last general election, 2005:
      “They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM… They voted for Tony, and yet they now get Gordon, and a transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up? This is nothing less than a palace coup… with North Korean servility, the Labour Party has handed power over to the brooding Scottish power-maniac.”

      Specifically on his lack of a mandate:
      “The extraordinary thing is that it looks as though he will now be in 10 Downing Street for three years, and without a mandate from the British people. No one elected Gordon Brown as Prime Minister…”

      And, the final flourish, a call for an election and a vote on the UK’s status within the EU:
      “Gordon Brown could appease public indignation over that, and secure the democratic mandate he needs, by asking the public to vote at once on him, on the new EU treaty, and on the implications of the devolutionary settlement. Let’s have an election without delay.”

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3640768/Browns-looking-for-a-Scottish-ally.html

  5. Charger Salmons

    Considering Plaid Cymru and the Greens agreed a pact with the Lib Dems not to stand the 1450 majority win for the Lib Dems is a much narrower margin that it should have been.
    It’s also a seat the Tories have only ever held for 15 out of its 81 year existence.
    A Tory-BXP electoral pact is still the most obvious scenario for a GE with Farage hoovering up Northern seats and Boris taking the south.
    The by-election result was an absolute disaster for Labour who barely held onto their deposit.

    1. Papi

      Who is this and what have you done with Chagrin? There was no racism, hatred, bullying, ignorant foolishness, childish whining, hypocrisy or other foulness we associate with the real Chakra Salvages.

      Spill the beans, mister, have you abducted our Tommy Robinson?

      If so, good show, old bean.

      1. OJS

        It’s Bruce Arnold, cleaning up his show … thinks it’ll hide that fact that he is racist, hateful, bullying, childish etc. newsflash Brucie: it won’t, it’s all there for everyone to see, for eternity.

  6. eoin

    Sleazy minister Richard Bruton announces two very controversial measures while the politicians are on holidays.

    They’re privatising the collection of licence fees. In Britain, that’s directly led to bully-boy tactics forcing people, oftentimes vulnerable people who don’t need a licence, to get one. And even with these bully-boy tactics, evasion rates in Scotland and Northern Ireland are in the same ballpark as the Republic.

    They’re expanding the TV licence to, effectively, everyone who has a laptop or mobile phone.

    Poor RTE, which broke even in 2013 and 2014, is now making losses as it pays Ryan Tubridy €495,000. It’s only surviving because it’s selling off assets like the lands in Montrose, spectrum in the UK and, more recently, putting the RTE Guide up for sale.

    1. B9Com From No

      Don’t we already pay?
      I presume RTÉ gets whatever cash it needs to run from HQ irrespective of takings from license fee?

  7. eoin

    The JNLR radio listenership figures for the year to June 2019 are out.

    Today FM, “which has stumbled from disaster to disaster” in the past few years reaches a new record market share of 7.6%.

    Selected listenerships via the Irish Times (with comparable figures for the year to March 2019 in brackets)
    Morning Ireland (Radio 1) 424,000 up 3,000
    Ryan Tubridy (Radio 1) 332,000 up 4,000
    Liveline (Radio 1) 372,000 down 3,000
    The Pat Kenny Show (Newstalk) 142,000 down 8,000
    The Hard Shoulder (Newstalk) 183,000 up 10,000
    Ian Dempsey (Today FM) 179,000 down 2,000
    Muireann O’Connell (Today FM) 96,000 up 3,000
    Fergal D’Arcy (Today FM) 109,000 up 3,000
    Saturday with Cormac Ó hEadhra (Radio 1) 212,000 down 15,000
    Marian Finucane, Sunday (Radio 1) 311,000 down 14,000

    1. Charger Salmons

      Hospital radio stuff when listenership figures of national radio shows move up and down in their low thousands.
      I’m an LBC and BBC Radio 5 Live man myself.
      The two combined deliver a broader spectrum of news than the farmgate gossip of Dublin.

      1. Papi

        Listening to combined radios leads to garbled news. Makes sense that you talk such gibberish

      1. eoin

        A polling company Ipsos Mori says it interviews 17,000 people about their listening habits and it then extrapolates that to the entire population. I have my doubts about it and some of the numbers, but it’s the best that’s out there and, as polling companies go, Ipsos Mori has a decent reputation.

        1. some old quare

          17k how? by phone or in person? I have yet to see a poll of that size on a serious issue like a general election let alone anything else. And there is the how often question- once a day-week-year?

          Last time I listened to 2FM- some spotty nerd was yapping on about early 90’s house music trivia like it was a quiz down the pub- awful station.

          1. bisted

            …back in the day when I worked in the industry it was all JICNARS and JICTARS…no reason to believe it is any less scientific now…nothing sharpens the mind like the rigour imposed by money…

  8. eoin

    Leaked document from British civil service on Brexit, via the Daily Mirror.

    “The internal document says that from day one “trade and passenger flows from the UK to EU slows” because of “additional process at border”, adding that “UK vessels could no longer have access to EU waters and vice versa”.

    In Northern Ireland, cross-border agricultural trade would “virtually stop” with other trade slowing.

    It added that the legal basis for the single electricity market between the Republic and Northern Ireland “falls away”.

    Within the first fortnight, the document warns of “potential consumer panic and food shortages, even in areas which are not directly affected at the border”.

    It adds that there could be “possible friction at sea between UK/EU fishing vessels”.

    1. Charger Salmons

      A Project Fear MK2 hangover from the fag-end of May’s premiership full of coulds, mights and possibles.
      The action has moved on since then.
      Turbo-charged even.
      There’s a new show in town in case you hadn’t noticed.

    2. some old quare

      Agricultural trade between ROI and NI will not stop- it will just become illegal.

      Re-tagging of cattle will become common place and fields which sit on the actual border will become though-fares. The scale of this action will make it impossible to police and nobody will blame the farmers because it is either that- or go under.

      1. B9Com From No

        I don’t know when you’ve farmed but afaik all animals details are stored on electronic databases now, harder to transfer tags etc

        1. some old quare

          If that system was as good as claimed then farmers would not be tagging cows with GPS sensors to prevent them from being stolen.

          1. Gabby

            Good opportunities for butter and pig smugglers going north and contraband cigarette smugglers going south.

    1. Charger Salmons

      Unsurprising that his comments rarely appear in the nodding-dog Irish media.
      Not unlike BBC’s Newsnight who spent the day in Dublin yesterday and could only manage to interview Charlie Flanagan,some non-entity from the Irish Times and an FF drone all spouting from the Gospel According To Leo.
      Not a single alternative view.
      On Nov 1st when the UK has left the EU and Ireland wakes up to a massive economic headache they’ll be singing a different tune.

      1. bisted

        …ah give over Charger…while you and I would welcome any brexit and preferably a hard one…it simply won’t happen…John Bercow…

      2. Papi

        A headache caused by…….??
        Go on, say it, the people you want to be like but were rejected by.

      3. Cian

        Ireland may have a “massive economic headache” but it won’t be anywhere close to the decade-long migraine that will face the UK.

        1. B9Com From No

          I wouldn’t be so blasé about that Cian
          It might not affect “them up there in dublin” as much but would decimate rural Ireland and border areas

          1. Cian

            I wasn’t intending to be blasé – a hard Brexit will hurt Ireland. But it will hurt the UK worse.

  9. eoin

    Wow! West Belfast and Belfast city centre festooned with posters for the “Miami Showband” musical which has its debut next week.

    https://www.goh.co.uk/new-musical-about-the-miami-showband/

    It’s some subject for a musical, a popular showband which was massacred on a lonely country road as British security forces colluded with local terrorists to plant a bomb on their bus (which would explode in the south, and drag the south further in the Northern Ireland conflict)

    1. Spaghetti Hoop

      I know musicals can be tragedies as well as gaiety and nonsense – but this still does not seem tasteful. Do the producers expect the audiences to get happy-clappy and rocking in their seats over a bloody massacre? It’s like they’d do anything for edgy content and a years theatre salary.

      1. some old quare

        All depends on if the bereaved families support it or not surely?

        Besides, a musical doesn’t have to be just ‘happy-clappy’- it can be very serious too.

        1. B9Com From No

          Musicals are modern day opera
          Isn’t Madame butterfly “about” similar themes?
          Amateur critics need to let go of their pearls

  10. Charger Salmons

    ” British security forces colluded with local terrorists to plant a bomb on their bus ”
    Never proven.
    Except over pints of Guinness in the Court of the Maudlin Barstoolers.

      1. Charger Salmons

        Listen pal, there was even collusion between British intelligence and republican paramilitaries.
        Heh,heh,heh.

        1. Papi

          Ah, that’s what he thinks pals are. No, chunky, pals are something different. Read also; chums, mates.

          Bless.

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