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Using women to supply babies for money is very questionable and bordering misogynistic. Needs a conversation.
Buying children is contemporary slavery.
and the dog-whistle blows…
Are you trying to say it’s homophobic to disapprove of people paying money to others in order to procure children?
I doubt you’d be as troubled if it was a heterosexual couple
You doubt wrong.
I object to people buying people.
Taking a child away from its mother,especially in a foreign country, compensating her with money, is wrong.
It was wrong to take children from parents when the church did it. It’s wrong now.
I too have trouble with the ethics of using poor women as brood mares .
example being rosanna davison
commodification of something that really should be beyond that
good reason it’s illegal in so many countries
What’s the difference between paying a surrogate thousands to have a baby for you and paying an adoption agency thousands to procure a baby for you? At least with surrogacy you know where the baby came from and can use your own sperm/egg in an IVF process.
One involves adopting a child that who has been born already that their natural parents are, for whatever reason, incapable or unwilling to bring up themselves; and the other involves paying a woman in a poor country to be impregnated on your behalf, and then taking the baby off her once its been born.
(note: this is related to the practice in general, I know nothing of the circumstances of the two chaps above)
With surrogacy, the woman gets the money. With adoption, an agency makes thousands and you have no idea of the parents’ circumstances – whether the baby is an orphan, surrendered or stolen. Just because the laundries are closed and the adoption industry dried up in Ireland doesn’t mean there aren’t dubious practices going on in countries where Irish people now go to adopt and pay around €20k to facilitators.
If a man from a rich western country goes to poor country and pays a prostitute for sex, the woman gets the money in that case, too. But still, the fact a much richer person is inducing a much poorer person to sell her body to him for money would be considered exploitative by a lot of people.
I know that there is can be all sorts of hinky business that goes on with the foreign adoptions industry, but someone adopting a child, who has no parents, from an orphanage, is not the same as ‘procuring’ child from its natural parents (which I realise goes on, too).
How do you know it’s not legitimate adoption? I’m in agreement with the point about paying for babies being wrong but if the child is abandoned and is adopted by a warm, giving couple I don’t see an issue with it.
So one could see how jumping the gun and assuming this couple engaged in the former as opposed to the latter could be construed as homophobic.
+V
If the adoption was legal, and Baba, ah would ya look at him, love an’ ould hold meself; is thriving
Its back to my lean to on matters such as this
Mind yer own business
Let parents
Parent
+1 conclusions being jumped to with the two lads.
Was taken aback when I heard of Rosanna Davison tho, as I’d believe she’d have been a shoe-in to pass requirements as an adoptive parent.
any social worker worth their salt would be concerned at the prospect of chris de burgh singing to an infant.
Wahahahaha… Proper LOL Scottser :)