Biden makes a valid point that if the Afghans aren’t willing to fight, why should Americans have to. The US should have realised that Kabul could fall quickly and planned accordingly.
Lilly
Are they that terrified of the Taliban? They totally outnumbered them.
According to intelligence relayed on SKY news, the Afghan army never even fought in many zones because the Taliban already paid them to not bother. Afghan leadership and military leadership is so corrupt that they had already decided this is what they would do. A nice nest egg to go into exile with.
Charlie
The yanks are damned if they do and damned to if they don’t. Usual craic.
Slave to the Rhythm
yea they are fierce craic them oul Yanks with their japes and their oul big ass planes and bombs and stuff
Mr T
The Afghans arent fighting because their air force was made non-functional once the US left.
And because the US used to pay their salaries – now its been transferred to Kabul, and the money (and supplies) just arent arriving.
The US has been training and running the Afghan army for so long that nobody knew if they could do it themselves.
If the US had taught these men to fish, rather than fishing for them – maybe they could have fought back.
Otis Blue
Say it ain’t so, Joe…
“In 2010, he (Biden) told Richard Holbrooke, Obama’s special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, that the U.S. had to leave Afghanistan regardless of the consequences for women or anyone else. According to Holbrooke’s diary, when he asked about American obligations to Afghans like the girl in the Kabul school, Biden replied with a history lesson from the final U.S. withdrawal from Southeast Asia in 1973: “Fuck that, we don’t have to worry about that. We did it in Vietnam, Nixon and Kissinger got away with it.”
I know there’s a lot going on, but:-
‘More than 1,400 people are confirmed dead from the earthquake that struck Haiti over the weekend, while the number of injured has grown to 6,000, according to officials. The quake has destroyed thousands of homes, offices and other structures.’ https://twitter.com/AP/status/1427381778688483332
Slave to the Rhythm
bet they weren’t wearing masks…
Charlie
What age are you? 14?
Slave to the Rhythm
Thanks for the compliment
*blushes
No, add a few…
Otis Blue
Here’s an extraordinary pic of over 600 Afghans packed on a US military cargo plane flight from Kabul to Qatar.
I could not stop my tears when I heard the stories of some families. One had lost their son in the war and didn’t have any money to pay the taxi fare to Kabul, so they gave their daughter-in-law away in exchange for transportation. How can the value of a woman be equal to the cost of a journey?
Janet, dreams of an alternate universe
wait until the Taliban marry themselves off to the single wemon stranded in Kabul, then they will be treated as less than slaves.
SOQ
It was Trump’s plan to pull out but Biden did not have to follow it- at least not in that manner. It is being presented that the Taliban just advanced out of nowhere, but its pretty obvious that went in tandem with the western forces pulling out.
Why they invaded in the first place is another story but as per usual, it is the innocent civilians who are suffering.
SOQ
If evidence was ever needed as how silly vaccine passports are, this is it.
A group of vaccinated Israelis that flew to Iceland for vacation have contracted the coronavirus. Harel insurance announced on Monday evening that it was sending a rescue flight to bring the Israelis in moderate and serious condition back to Israel. Iceland’s Iceland ‘vaccination rate’ is >80% btw.
It reminds me of the comment by a doctor after someone died from COVid-19 saying that it could have been worse if they hadn’t been vaccinated- which begs the question, how?
Verbatim
Truth is the vaccine was never tested on a criteria of stopping transmission. That was just casually assumed. Governments let that assumption continue as an incentive to encourage vaccine uptake. The vaccines, at best, stop some from contracting a huge viral overload and dying.
SOQ
Well it is one thing to mislead in order to encourage vaccine uptake but to use it as a means of bringing in domestic passports is downright dishonest.
ProfessorMark
Thats a pretty sterling display of a poor grasp of the facts & context above.
SOQ
The context is vaccine passports which are based on the faulty assumption that vaccinated do not spread SARS-CoV-2. We now know they can have just as high a viral load so apart from pandering to some sort of psychotic hypochondria, what exactly is the communitarian argument for them?
Cian
Are you actually sick?
You ask the same question every day. It gets answered every day. And then the next day, you ask it again.
There’s something happening here but you don’t know what it is.. do you, Mr Jones?
Nigel
‘Zbigniew Brzezinski died (May 26). He, more than anyone on the planet, deserves condemnation for having stoked the snakepit that is now the Middle East; not to mention unleashing the plague of militant Islamic terrorism now exploding across Europe.’ https://villagemagazine.ie/obitchuary-zbigniew-brzezinski/
Builds up to a magnificent rant about the CIA, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, and Irish connections with the same.
Bodger
Tin foiler!
Nigel
Study it closely for tips on how to identify the rich people and power players who influence events and institutions and their dire effects on the world using historical records without tipping over into such unsubstantiated beliefs that, eg, the Clinton campaign was buying underage sex slaves from a pizza shop.
Bodger
It’s OK, Nigel, you can admit it. Next you’ll be licking rodents.
Nigel
That’s between me and the consenting rodent, thank you.
Bodger
hehehehehhe
Lush
They can’t spell obituary.
Nigel
Anyway, I’m worried all the current news is making everyone feel upbeat and optimistic, so here:
Biden makes a valid point that if the Afghans aren’t willing to fight, why should Americans have to. The US should have realised that Kabul could fall quickly and planned accordingly.
Are they that terrified of the Taliban? They totally outnumbered them.
Taliban lads enjoying the fun fair.
https://twitter.com/Mediavenir/status/1427361212707311622?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1427361212707311622%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=file%3A%2F%2F%2Fprivate%2Fvar%2Fcontainers%2FBundle%2FApplication%2FE115C1F8-D7CC-484A-B0CA-90E4107FAB5D%2FGLA.app%2FArticleTemplates%2F
And working out in the gym at the Presidential Palace
https://twitter.com/SuneEngel/status/1427535581593182208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1427535581593182208%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=file%3A%2F%2F%2Fprivate%2Fvar%2Fcontainers%2FBundle%2FApplication%2FE115C1F8-D7CC-484A-B0CA-90E4107FAB5D%2FGLA.app%2FArticleTemplates%2F
According to intelligence relayed on SKY news, the Afghan army never even fought in many zones because the Taliban already paid them to not bother. Afghan leadership and military leadership is so corrupt that they had already decided this is what they would do. A nice nest egg to go into exile with.
The yanks are damned if they do and damned to if they don’t. Usual craic.
yea they are fierce craic them oul Yanks with their japes and their oul big ass planes and bombs and stuff
The Afghans arent fighting because their air force was made non-functional once the US left.
And because the US used to pay their salaries – now its been transferred to Kabul, and the money (and supplies) just arent arriving.
The US has been training and running the Afghan army for so long that nobody knew if they could do it themselves.
If the US had taught these men to fish, rather than fishing for them – maybe they could have fought back.
Say it ain’t so, Joe…
“In 2010, he (Biden) told Richard Holbrooke, Obama’s special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, that the U.S. had to leave Afghanistan regardless of the consequences for women or anyone else. According to Holbrooke’s diary, when he asked about American obligations to Afghans like the girl in the Kabul school, Biden replied with a history lesson from the final U.S. withdrawal from Southeast Asia in 1973: “Fuck that, we don’t have to worry about that. We did it in Vietnam, Nixon and Kissinger got away with it.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/we-cant-abandon-afghans-who-helped-us/618416/
I know there’s a lot going on, but:-
‘More than 1,400 people are confirmed dead from the earthquake that struck Haiti over the weekend, while the number of injured has grown to 6,000, according to officials. The quake has destroyed thousands of homes, offices and other structures.’
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1427381778688483332
bet they weren’t wearing masks…
What age are you? 14?
Thanks for the compliment
*blushes
No, add a few…
Here’s an extraordinary pic of over 600 Afghans packed on a US military cargo plane flight from Kabul to Qatar.
https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2021/08/inside-reach-871-us-c-17-packed-640-people-trying-escape-taliban/184563/
Nary a mask in sight.
In fairness, I’d say that’s the least of their worries.
to all those brave souls intending to stay behind to help those poor people…
I’m in awe of your selflessness but I 110% think you are being reckless, delusional, if ye think those Taliban animals are changed men
I fully admit I’d be at the airport and I hope you change your mind or get dragged out of it for your own sakes
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/an-afghan-woman-in-kabul-now-i-have-to-burn-everything-i-achieved
I could not stop my tears when I heard the stories of some families. One had lost their son in the war and didn’t have any money to pay the taxi fare to Kabul, so they gave their daughter-in-law away in exchange for transportation. How can the value of a woman be equal to the cost of a journey?
wait until the Taliban marry themselves off to the single wemon stranded in Kabul, then they will be treated as less than slaves.
It was Trump’s plan to pull out but Biden did not have to follow it- at least not in that manner. It is being presented that the Taliban just advanced out of nowhere, but its pretty obvious that went in tandem with the western forces pulling out.
Why they invaded in the first place is another story but as per usual, it is the innocent civilians who are suffering.
If evidence was ever needed as how silly vaccine passports are, this is it.
A group of vaccinated Israelis that flew to Iceland for vacation have contracted the coronavirus. Harel insurance announced on Monday evening that it was sending a rescue flight to bring the Israelis in moderate and serious condition back to Israel. Iceland’s Iceland ‘vaccination rate’ is >80% btw.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/israelis-flew-to-iceland-30-contracted-covid-report-676835
It reminds me of the comment by a doctor after someone died from COVid-19 saying that it could have been worse if they hadn’t been vaccinated- which begs the question, how?
Truth is the vaccine was never tested on a criteria of stopping transmission. That was just casually assumed. Governments let that assumption continue as an incentive to encourage vaccine uptake. The vaccines, at best, stop some from contracting a huge viral overload and dying.
Well it is one thing to mislead in order to encourage vaccine uptake but to use it as a means of bringing in domestic passports is downright dishonest.
Thats a pretty sterling display of a poor grasp of the facts & context above.
The context is vaccine passports which are based on the faulty assumption that vaccinated do not spread SARS-CoV-2. We now know they can have just as high a viral load so apart from pandering to some sort of psychotic hypochondria, what exactly is the communitarian argument for them?
Are you actually sick?
You ask the same question every day. It gets answered every day. And then the next day, you ask it again.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/aug/16/bob-dylan-accusations-sexual-abuse-lawsuit?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Girl From the North Country?
There’s something happening here but you don’t know what it is.. do you, Mr Jones?
‘Zbigniew Brzezinski died (May 26). He, more than anyone on the planet, deserves condemnation for having stoked the snakepit that is now the Middle East; not to mention unleashing the plague of militant Islamic terrorism now exploding across Europe.’
https://villagemagazine.ie/obitchuary-zbigniew-brzezinski/
Builds up to a magnificent rant about the CIA, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, and Irish connections with the same.
Tin foiler!
Study it closely for tips on how to identify the rich people and power players who influence events and institutions and their dire effects on the world using historical records without tipping over into such unsubstantiated beliefs that, eg, the Clinton campaign was buying underage sex slaves from a pizza shop.
It’s OK, Nigel, you can admit it. Next you’ll be licking rodents.
That’s between me and the consenting rodent, thank you.
hehehehehhe
They can’t spell obituary.
Anyway, I’m worried all the current news is making everyone feel upbeat and optimistic, so here:
‘Adverse weather in the European Union has sharply reduced prospects for wheat and barley harvests, contributing to a potentially ‘explosive’ global supply outlook for the cereals’
https://twitter.com/JimBair62221006/status/1426680112410284040
Snap, crackle and flop !
Surely this problem with cereals is…ahem…a recurring one ;)