Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications and Minister for Transport Eamon Ryan at Dublin Castle this morning.
Minister @EamonRyan gave the opening address this morning at the First National Climate Stakeholder Forum.
A key action in the #ClimateActionPlan, this is the first of three fora that will take place this year.#ClimateActionIRLhttps://t.co/KoJLVyVIDV pic.twitter.com/bohpDgfqkJ— Dept. Environment, Climate and Communications (@Dept_ECC) March 22, 2022
This morning.
Dublin Castle, Dublin 2.
Opening the first National Climate Stakeholder Forum, Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications, and Transport, Eamon Ryan, said:
“This National Forum is all about coming together, listening to different viewpoints and then working collectively to identify what we can do, and where challenges might exist, to deliver on our climate action ambitions. I am delighted to see representatives here from industry, civil society, trade unions, state bodies and agencies, and policy makers, as well as representatives from the National Youth Assembly on Climate.
“I look forward to hearing what will undoubtedly be lively discussions and, most importantly, listening to the innovative suggestions that are put forward to overcome any challenges that exist. This type of national dialogue is vital to ensuring that we are delivering on our transition to a lower-carbon future in a way that is inclusive, fair and effective.”
Minister Ryan opens first National Climate Stakeholder Forum (Gov.ie)
It’s only useful if governments don’t ignore the outcomes, and FF/FG are actively hostile and destructive to the environment so until they’re thrown out or transformed or pressured into changing, it’ll just be a sop.
Is nuclear an option given that we know have Small Modular Reactors, which appear to be cheaper to build and a lot safer than what’s gone before.
For some reason I fear the day we Irish ever get our hands on nuclear tech at that level, what with the general level of incompetency in the country.
LOL didnt think of that…although ESB hasn’t set fire to, or blown up, anything.
I googled it for the craic:
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/investigations-launched-into-fatal-esb-blast-1.365050
”One dead and two seriously injured after explosion and fire that followed at Tarbert power station”
Small potatoes, but give them time…
LOL..i stand corrected…lets hold off on the nuclear power plant
…blah blah blah…
drive slower
grow salad
MORE TAXES!!
The best way to manage climate change is to add layers and layers of taxes, stealth charges and any other cost affective way to extract money out of people under the guise of saving the planet.
Convince people that the more tax you pay, the more ice will generate in the Antarctic and all will be well.
…doesn’t seem to be working though…last week recorded temperatures that were 40C higher than they should have been in the antarctic and 30C higher in the arctic…
We’re not actually doing much in the way of taxing carbon and reducing emissions and building alternatives at the moment, that’s why.
Heavy taxes on things that generate carbon or other pollutiants and damage the environment, tax exemptions, rebates and incentives for activities that are carbon neutral, carbon negative and restore the environment. Otherwise justet things keep going the way they’re going, giving hufe subsidies of tax payer’s money to fossil fuel industries to cook the planet alive and make massive profits while doing so.
What did he say that you are against, that bs is against. Go on, give an opinion if you are capable of same. Opinion = telling us what you think
Exactly Nigel; keep taxing the consumer as they are the ones ultimately responsible for the continuous abuse of raw material. Look at your grocery shopping, I bet you insist that each and every product is packed in plastic or paper, and those high end items, must be double packed.
How about the flat pack retailers, you are all for them and there layers and layers of packing for the smallest things.
But you are right, keep sucking money out of middle class society and climate change will eventually go away,
I hope your windmill is turning today!
That’s exactly what they’ll do, if you let them. It won’t work, it’ll make things worse. But that wasn’t what I propsed. We need to gear our society to solve the specific problems that are facing us, and one way we do that is through tax inventives and tax increases on the respective activities that are beneficial or harmful, because private enterprise is in no way interested in solving those problems, at all, and is actively exacerbating them.
‘Modeled reconstruction of February #Arctic sea ice volume since 1901’
https://twitter.com/ZLabe/status/1506256101133926404
So your proposal is to tax society so that “climate change” (the climate changes everyday) will reverse.
Who do you propose taxing?
Well, currently fossil fuel companies receive billions in subsudies to cause climate change, reversing that policy would have a good effect. For a start, tax billionaires, tax private jets, tax private yachts, tax every company and corporation that produces carbon and other pollutants, don’t allow them to externalise these costs or offshore them or outsource them, tax them directly and heavily. Tax share dividends that come from polluting and environmentally unfriendly industries and processes, tax oil pipelines, tax oil explorarion, tax fracking. use the revenues to bild windmills, solar parks, insluate homes, expand public transport, cycling and walking infrastructure.
What do you propose doing about climate change?
What has a billionaire got to do with “climate change” (the climate changes every day) policy…….
Tax, tax and more tax. Taxing every company which produces carbon is all corporations in all industries, even the climate change sympathisers.
All these wonderful taxes you propose will only ever be suffered by one portion of society!
Have you ever thought that about what Climate Change is; in my opinion it’s just another money making industry, ideal for governments and lobby groups to raise as much funds needed at any given time.
Taxes, levies, charges or whatever you way you want to extract money out of people will not influence nature. Nature has it’s own course and society will never influence it in any meaningful way. To blame humanity on climate change is a course of manipulation and propaganda against people.
Ah, so a climate chanfe denier. In tis day and age.
Its all a scam, a hoax and a fraud to rob normal people of what little we have left.
It should be resisted at every opportunity.
The world has cyclical weather patterns that have changed over millennia and our human contribution is minimal.
Bearing in mind the same industrial corporations that literally raped the planet of its resources in the most environmentally damaging ways for more than a century, have the audacity to tell me to lower my carbon footprint?
No is the polite answer, I will not buy into it, not for a hot second.
Another climate change denier, but hardly a surprise in your case,
ah a climate sympatiser…..
“Climate change” (the climate changes every day) …….
Negative, I do not deny the climate is changing; it absolutely is and always will and always has.
Look at your statistic; “lowest point since x date”, “lowest/highest point since records began” etc etc etc…. these peaks and troughs of sea temperatures and air temperatures and whatever else the influencing powers can have society believe they are measuring, have happened in the past and will happen again.
If you believe taxes will correct the climate to what others say it should be; then you may wish to continue to contribute.
In my opinion, no amount of tax will bring the climate into whatever cycle those who levy the taxes believe it should be.
We are not the only being on this planet, we are not the only ones who consume the resources of the planet. However, you and I and everyone else of this island are not going to change the cycle of climate by paying absorbent taxes because governments believe it is our fault that multinational corporations continue to produce mountains of indulgent products and convince society they need them.
History has proven climate change policies are nothing other than tax grabbing agendas. The electric car, is the current “diesel-gate” of the 2020’s. You might remember when governments across the globe campaigned for car owners to change to diesel as it was considered a “green” fuel. These are the same people now telling us to slow down, eat salads and wash once a week, they also told us in the 1990’s that gas was the cleanest fuel around, now there is a carbon tax on that too.
Climate change is readily understood nowadays as meaning anthropomorphic climate change caused by excess carbon in the atmosphere generated by human activity. The science about this is settled and well understood, and therefore the effect can be reversed and mitigated, and taxes are certainly one tool that can be used to drive efforts towards reversal and mitigation. Playing the fool about ‘climate changes every day’ and ‘taxes will correct the climate’ pretty much match your inane evocation cycles and recurrences, but it doesn’t eally change the reality. You decry the ineffectiveness of the individual and the unfair burden placed on them, yet reject collective social measures which will have to be acheived through, if not raising taxes, definitely redirecting them.
With Greens in power, Ireland is only 5-10 years behind some former Soviet Republics when it comes to renewables and small-scale PV production.
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/b1fbe-micro-generation/
Yay! Go Greens!
And with Greens in power, Ireland is only 10-15 years behind majority of former Iron Curtain countries when it comes to recycling of PET and glass bottles and aluminium cans.
https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/b7f94-regulations-signed-for-a-deposit-return-scheme-for-plastic-bottles-and-aluminium-cans/?msclkid=798aa239aa1b11eca7ccb2e489735d5a
Yay! Go Greens!
I was feeling optimistic today, and did not want to compare the numbers with more developed parts of Europe.
Let’s hope that the people will also generously award Greens and the rest of that coalition on next elections.
Nigel, look at the big picture.
When dinosaurs walked the earth and the mega flora and fauna covered the earth, long before humans had an impact, CO2 levels were significantly higher than today. That period created a large part of the fossil fuels we consume today.
It is a nonsense to try to push a tide out to sea, with a small plastic bucket, which is what the fig leaf is for the worlds largest institutional robbery of individual wealth.
If you really are scared for our planet and really do want to something positive, maybe complain against one of the worlds largest polluters, or is that an inconvenient fact?
https://earth.org/us-military-pollution/
https://www.eurasiareview.com/16042021-the-hockey-stick-curve-obscures-earths-co2-history-oped/
Nigel, look at the big picture, and no, the science is not settled.
When dinosaurs walked the earth and the mega flora and fauna covered the earth, long before humans had an impact, CO2 levels were significantly higher than today. That period created a large part of the fossil fuels we consume today.
It is a nonsense to try to push a tide out to sea, with a small plastic bucket, which is what the fig leaf is for the worlds largest institutional robbery of individual wealth.
If you really are scared for our planet and really do want to something positive, maybe complain against one of the worlds largest polluters, or is that an inconvenient fact?
https://earth.org/us-military-pollution/
https://www.eurasiareview.com/16042021-the-hockey-stick-curve-obscures-earths-co2-history-oped/