The lineup for this years Reading Leeds Festival adjusted for bands that have a woman in them.
(via Helen Lewis)
(Thanks GK)
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The lineup for this years Reading Leeds Festival adjusted for bands that have a woman in them.
(via Helen Lewis)
(Thanks GK)
Can you do a gay version, a transgendered version, a disabled person version? Etc, etc. Hmm?
gay, transgedered and disabled demographics don’t make up 50% of the population, “Kate”
Female musicians also don’t make up 50% of the population.
Oh lord help me.
Tell me, are you the kind of person who, after consulting a map, is then subsequently disappointed to find that the actual destination is not three centimetres away as the map had seemed to you to promise?
So you can’t refute my statement? Grand, thanks.
Did it require refutation? You didn’t say anything controversial. Male musicians don’t make up 50% of the population, either.
It’s pretty basic, Bobby: Of all the musicians in the world, what percentage are female?
Female musicians don’t make up 50% of the population and male musicians don’t make up 50% of the population.
What’s your point outside of that?
Yes I like ‘Katie’ and ‘Anne’ am a genuine lady commenter and I wish to say that women need to cop on and that we’re all tired of the gays and whatnot.
I say that as a brave outspoken lady.
Isn’t this already the gay version?
YAWN
Yes, your comment is pretty boring
Weren’t sleater kinney available?
Or L7? Or Babes in Toyland?
It’s not the 90’s.
It should be
Jesus god no, it really really shouldn’t.
Shurrup to fupp. The 90s were brilliant.
Now I’m all nostalgic. I’m off to listen to some Whale song. And by that I mean Hobo Humpin Slobo Babe.
Yes it should cause its awesome. And even if you don’t like it, there are a whole bunch of 90s bands, with ladies in and everything (!), who have got back together over the last while that would surely be rock festival material.
If we’re doing Hot Tub Time Machine take me back to the summer of ’88 please and thank you.
Interesting, I would have thought someone called Mani would be a 90s music fan. Also, L7 and Babes in Toyland have reformed, which I’m quite excited about.
Grunge overkill.
L7 have reformed. Sweet!
And the early 90s were cool, then britpop came along and ruined everything
Wow, Limp Bizkit… there is a blast from the past.
It’s the same for Forbidden Fruit – so far, the line up is a right old sausage fest.
Yawn to that.
If you adjusted it for bands that were any use it would be similarly sparse.
Or bands I’ve heard of before.
Or bands I’ve heard of before.
B-A-Y, B-A-Y, B-A-Y C-I-T-Y, with your R-O-L-L-E-R-S, bay city rollers are the best
I had knee-high white socks with pictures of the Bay City Rollers on the side of em in the 70s.
FACT.
That can’t be wrong when it feels so right.
New York, New York: so good they named it twice.
New York, so good they named it.
What does this suggest?
That what counts for “modern music” is dominated largely by white middle class blokes?
*shakes head*
Wow. We’re through the looking glass here, people.
Someone called Man-i would say that…
Happy now?
You should join a band and change the world or something.
Nah, I’ll take your lead and stick to making passive aggressive comments online
And is there someone at fault then?
Tbf, its about time someone gave white middle class blokes a break. I mean, its really tough for them out there!
Ears. The great discriminators.
True. The best music has all been written by WMC guys.
I bet you like Mumford and Sons….
You’ve taken the bit between your teeth in terms of passive agressiveness.
bet away
Its ok Mikey, we all got a bit carried away when they first turned up.
Mani, would you like to make another comment or are you done?
I appear to have given you the impression that I’m going to this festival, and it seems you think I may be going because of the gender profile of the bands playing. By asking a question at the start there.
And your accusation towards Mani there I found so rich that it was hard to read so soon after lunch.
I’d like you to actually articulate your point rather than make ad hominem attacks in defence of the Great Galactic Vagina.
Mikey – it was a joke.
Mani – you respond to my initial point like a grown up and I will respond in kind.
The colour yellow is too much for a poster without black text to counteract the glare.
Damn you, Leeds & Reading festivals, for booking popular acts that sell records and that the audience actually wants to see. Damn you to Hell!!
(Because it’s certainly not the fault of the record buying/downloading/otherwise “acquiring” public…)
Don’t be ridiculous! Someone somewhere wants a clean 50:50 gender split for bands therefore Reading and Leeds festival Ltd. should do it.
I believe that a quota system needs to be implemented here to ensure fairness and equality. If you could just locate all the women who feel they need to learn an instrument as a means of getting the ride……..
Like the flute, perhaps?
Or the cello. Though that’s more to get you prepped: the flute is more of a sexual utensil.
I recently found out that band Girl Band are a band of boys. That’s how bad things are.
I think it refers to the kind of corset required to get into those skinny jeans.
Girl Band’s “girls” banned for not being girl band.
There’s something that you should know about Girl Talk, too…
are you suggesting most women only learn instruments to get the ride?
No, I clearly am saying that most men do, which is why most bands are made up of men as we will employ any skill to this end.. However, do not let me get in the way of your seeking offence.
LOL no i wasn’t seeking offense, just clarification! As you were.
pissed off you hadn’t thought of it yourself?
I don’t get it, you’re saying that the most important thing a band should consider when forming is NOT the members musical ability? Are you actually saying that gender is more important than musical ability?
…./facepalm….
Yes, you do not get it
I woulf imagine that most of the female performers will be glad to see a clean and relatively unused jacks on the 3rd day.
The blokes’ tho..
*shudder*
Reading/Leeds has traditionally been a rock festival. Most rock bands are all-male. Not saying it’s right or wrong, it just is….
Don’t worry, the whitest middle-class Guardian will sort this out.
… http://youtu.be/oh4r49tzn88
Oh noes. This somewhat takes the shine off the announcement that they’re developing MacGirlver.
She better have a stupidly 2015 haircut or they aren’t taking it seriously enough
It would be entertaining if Richard Dean Anderson had a complete mid-life meltdown about it, like Dirk Benedict did when they recast Starbuck.
Maybe he’ll go the old sex change route just so he can audition
He’ll probably do it himself, with a Swiss army knife, some Sellotape and the plastic bit of a Bic biro
Not sure he’ll make it past the casting couch with Sellotape boobs. Wait, what am I thinking, its MacGyver! Of course he will!
*Dun-dun-dun-dun-dunnnn dun dun dun..*
Female acts tend to be of a poorer quality in general. Even acts with a single female member suffer as a result of their mediocre input and bad attitudes.
wow. just wow.
You’ve a single female member.
BOOM!
Wrong –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK2CvJNrpWw
Nice!
a classic!!!
Can someone please explain this to me? It contains terms with which I am unfamiliar
Twoll in need of a bridge.
Its a business first and a festival second. The acts were picked so they are broadly from the same genre and they will draw the biggest crowds, whilst paying the groups the least amount of money required to maximize profit.
And they were available
mumford and sons and limp bizkit on the same day. shudder. it’ll be a troglodyte-fest.
I only eat food prepared by a woman.
Yer da?
your username is gas, though
Gender quotas in rock bands. This is so stupid. Why are we even taking about this. If some (any) women are unhappy about this, they should learn instruments and form rock bands. Trying to make women the victim at every possible opportunity. Middle class white guy to blame again. It’s bizarre.
women do join rock bands but are generally dismissed as automatically lacking in talent or relevance, as seen in the comments here, for no good reason. and if they are good it’s often assumed that she has a man writing songs for her, or a man recording her parts of the tracks, or a man generally informing her talent.
On health grounds I am against women in rock groups as the damage to the men in that band due to pent up farts can be….explosive.
I’ve often wondered how men survive rehearsals in those tiny, windowless practice rooms. Esp the mouldy, scaldy practice spaces, like in Loop studios. Combined with farts it’s pretty much a fire hazard.
That’s Garbage.
Touché.
One dopey comment from chompelton the troll does not define the whole comment section.
All of those assumptions you have made are made entirely by you.
I’m going to a festival which has 90% male acts in a couple of weeks. If they enforced a 50% balance rule it would be a far shitter festival.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7gLLgpuAPbo
See you there bro!
Interviewer: so, Declan, a hooley in the sun…is a lovely metaphor for an Irish summer festival?
Declan: it’s not a metaphor. The festival takes place in the sun
Interviewer: eh, what?
Declan: I’ve modified a minibus to make it solar proof. I’ve bought a rake of factor 25.
Interviewer: do you…?
Declan: have a substance abuse problem? A significant one yes.
VH1 “Behind the Music” narrator:
“That was Nerney’s last interview before an arduous rehab process that only ended when he submitted to a higher power…
…vintage tractors.”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3X4VNAS1TR8
‘I met a massie ferguson backstage in 2012 and it changed my life. We were married in 2014. I’ve ben clean ever since’
http://m.imgur.com/3Vr2TFv
Deadly. At least you can’t see the damaged exhaust from that angle.
I know, that’s why I drew him with trousers on.
Mechanic: I’ve done the full overhaul…and I have to tell you I found some pretty disgusting stuff back there.
Tractor: I’ve been encouraging him to douche but he just refuses.
Declan: can I come down off these blocks now?
I’m not drawing that.
It could be a new feature!
Broadsheet…After Dark.
To be honest, those bands would ve a whole lot shitter if they employed a girl.
I’m struggling to think how limp bizkit could possibly be any worse
don’t do it, your brain will fold in on itself.
They could collaborate with Maroon 5.
You’re a sick man.
You’ve no idea.
Maroon Bizkits. Sounds like an urban dictionary reference to a sex act.
Can we get Anastasia in there too for the key change bit?
Funny thing is though, about 50% of festival attendees are female. So the disparity doesn’t seem to bother them too much, or else there would be more festivals featuring more female artists.
given a choice between waiting for a festival to magically have all the acts we’d like to see, and having the craic with our friends at a festival that has an alright lineup, what do you think?
I think that if there was demand for lineups that were 50/50 in terms of gender, or with a majority of women, promoters would already be organising them.*
Most people don’t care.
*there is one big one that I know of – Ladyfest – but that’s it.
sure, but nobody is asking for 50/50 lineup. it’s just that it seems unnatural to have a festival lineup so lacking in female musicians when there’s tons of bands out there with female members.
Also, our Broadsheet overlords love to throw this poo into the ring and watch the carnage.
They sure do
People seem to like listening to men playing music than to women (or so the ticket sales would seem to suggest) – I’m not sure if there are any other conclusions to be drawn from it.
Citation needed
im more offended by Limp Bizkit
Shut up everyone !
It’s Reading.
It should go back to it’s roots, all METAL !
you have a point
Would probably have more women if it did tbh, lots of ladies in metal bands these days.
Una Mullally will be live tweeting from the event. Its great news for people who like bad news
The amount of strawmanning going on from white dudes (of which I am) with there noses out of joint is hilarious.
*their. DAMN IT.
Not sure what anyone’s race/colour has to do with it? Unless you’re one of those odd people who seem to think only “white men” can be sexist. As opposed to Saudi Arabia and so on.
Paramore headlined last year.
Festival bookings are based on a few factors (act availability, and agent / manager relationships with the promoter are the reason for a high percentage of bookings) but the main reason is money. This is a ludicrous non-story. If you’ll sell tickets, a festival will want to book you. No matter what’s in your pants.
Well yeah, I don’t think the observation is aimed directly at that festival. I think it’s just making an observation about the music business in general: women make up half the population yet are very under represented in this particular area.
Madonna
Lady Gaga
Rihanna
Beyonce
Adele
Etc
Etc
I think women are doing just fine in the music industry.
And none of those are rock/ metal etc. which are at the core of Reading… at least historically.