Emmett Keane writes:
“In yesterday’s Sunday Independent a poll reveals that 90% believe having a baby outside marriage is acceptable. Only 88%, however, think that sex outside marriage is acceptable. Irish people. The mind boggles….”
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Eh….never heard of sperm banks? Its obvs like!
Don’t forget immaculate conceptions
And alien abductions!
Can you get pregnant from an anal probe? I wasnt listening in Biology class!
You got probed in the butt.
Oh man, bummer.
is ‘acceptable’ the opposite of ‘wrong’?
is that ‘having gay relatives’ or ‘gay relationships’? … if it’s the latter, why is this even being asked?
The discrepancy between the homosexual relations and gay adoption is a bit more worrying. Evidence of a homophobia hiding behind the supposed acceptance of gay couples.
True
yeah – I guess this is going to be far more exposed in the lead up to the referendum.
Luckily the adoption bill will hopefully take care of that well beforehand. So it shouldn’t be (too much of) an issue.
You expected it to be black & white… is that what you are saying?
Grow up. Change takes time, one step at a time, you are not going to change all opinion so quickly. Only twenty odd years ago, those polls would be practically reversed. That’s a big change in less than one generation. But, obviously more to do.
No, I didn’t expect it to be black and white.
My comment is simply that acceptance of gay couples is clearly qualified by many to not include them as suitable parents, presumably due to stigma and stereotypes about their behaviour in relationships.
I don’t see why this merits a grow up comment. Equality is always a ‘Now’ issue for me, not a ‘ah sure we’re getting better all the time, Rome wasn’t built in a day’ issue. As long as any section of our society has less rights than another, I have a problem with that.
….whooooooooshhhhh
…that’ll be the immaculate conceptions.
Either that or a peculiarity of the statistics.
Or even that people are a bit more pragmatic about things than the OP allows for.
What if 2% (and that is of course assuming that all the 2% discrepancy are people who answered unacceptable for one question and unacceptable for another, we can’t actually assume that it was of people, it could be 1.75% of people and I don’t know the figure so it could be one person for all I know) believe that sex outside marriage is unacceptable but if someone does it and gets pregnant, it is acceptable to have a baby.
Irish people eh?
The mind boggles.
Ireland, a reproductive minefield.
Maybe they thought sex outside marriage was sex with people you aren’t currently married to?
My thought also. A distinction should have been made between pre-marital sex and extra-marital sex. That would explain the discrepancy.
But ‘Pre-marital’ implies that you intend to marry the person you are having sex with.
Not really, it just means you aren’t married yet. Otherwise you could say “oh no, that wasn’t pre-marital sex Father, sure I’ve no intention of marrying her” when you were in your weekly confession.
‘Yet’? What if you had no intentions of marrying anyone but enjoyed a healthy sex life?
That would make you a pervert and I will pray for what remains of your soul, you whore.
Remains? Ashes, grime and scum is all that’s left.
I suppose as long as you avoid post-marital sex with people who are married to other people then you’ll only burn in hell a little bit. But I wouldn’t let a broadsheet commenter dictate what you do with your sex life. Unless it’s ABM, then do the opposite.
It’s in the Sunday Independent, so it’s probably just made up bollocks.
NOT MIND BOGGLING AT ALL:
THOSE POLLED BELIEVE ONCE YOUR UP THE DUFF, YOU ARE WERE YOU ARE,
SO ITS ACCEPTABLE TO SEE THE PREGNANCY THROUGH RATHER THAN HAVE AN ABORTION.
Or it could just be that there’s a fairly wide margin of error – perhaps +/- 5 percentage points.
the mind boggles that a sentient adult thinks a poll in the Sunday Independent is statistically valid
Does anyone have the full text of the right column?