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Emmett Keane writes:

“In yesterday’s Sunday Independent a poll reveals that 90% believe having a baby outside marriage is acceptable. Only 88%, however, think that sex outside marriage is acceptable. Irish people. The mind boggles….”

29 thoughts on “Right So

  1. hello you!

    is ‘acceptable’ the opposite of ‘wrong’?
    is that ‘having gay relatives’ or ‘gay relationships’? … if it’s the latter, why is this even being asked?

  2. Ronan

    The discrepancy between the homosexual relations and gay adoption is a bit more worrying. Evidence of a homophobia hiding behind the supposed acceptance of gay couples.

      1. Kieran NYC

        Luckily the adoption bill will hopefully take care of that well beforehand. So it shouldn’t be (too much of) an issue.

    1. Clampers Outside!

      You expected it to be black & white… is that what you are saying?

      Grow up. Change takes time, one step at a time, you are not going to change all opinion so quickly. Only twenty odd years ago, those polls would be practically reversed. That’s a big change in less than one generation. But, obviously more to do.

      1. Ronan

        No, I didn’t expect it to be black and white.

        My comment is simply that acceptance of gay couples is clearly qualified by many to not include them as suitable parents, presumably due to stigma and stereotypes about their behaviour in relationships.

        I don’t see why this merits a grow up comment. Equality is always a ‘Now’ issue for me, not a ‘ah sure we’re getting better all the time, Rome wasn’t built in a day’ issue. As long as any section of our society has less rights than another, I have a problem with that.

    1. Medium Sized C

      Either that or a peculiarity of the statistics.
      Or even that people are a bit more pragmatic about things than the OP allows for.

      What if 2% (and that is of course assuming that all the 2% discrepancy are people who answered unacceptable for one question and unacceptable for another, we can’t actually assume that it was of people, it could be 1.75% of people and I don’t know the figure so it could be one person for all I know) believe that sex outside marriage is unacceptable but if someone does it and gets pregnant, it is acceptable to have a baby.

      Irish people eh?
      The mind boggles.

    1. octo

      My thought also. A distinction should have been made between pre-marital sex and extra-marital sex. That would explain the discrepancy.

      1. Spaghetti Hoop

        But ‘Pre-marital’ implies that you intend to marry the person you are having sex with.

        1. Stewart Curry

          Not really, it just means you aren’t married yet. Otherwise you could say “oh no, that wasn’t pre-marital sex Father, sure I’ve no intention of marrying her” when you were in your weekly confession.

          1. Spaghetti Hoop

            ‘Yet’? What if you had no intentions of marrying anyone but enjoyed a healthy sex life?

          2. Stewart Curry

            I suppose as long as you avoid post-marital sex with people who are married to other people then you’ll only burn in hell a little bit. But I wouldn’t let a broadsheet commenter dictate what you do with your sex life. Unless it’s ABM, then do the opposite.

  3. epson aculaser c100

    NOT MIND BOGGLING AT ALL:

    THOSE POLLED BELIEVE ONCE YOUR UP THE DUFF, YOU ARE WERE YOU ARE,
    SO ITS ACCEPTABLE TO SEE THE PREGNANCY THROUGH RATHER THAN HAVE AN ABORTION.

    1. ahyeah

      Or it could just be that there’s a fairly wide margin of error – perhaps +/- 5 percentage points.

  4. Hosanna in the Hiace

    the mind boggles that a sentient adult thinks a poll in the Sunday Independent is statistically valid

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