CCTV images, released by the gardaí, of the man who allegedly stabbed Dublin footballer Jonny Cooper on Dorset Street, Dublin on Saturday at 5.45am.
CCTV image shows man who stabbed footballer Jonny Cooper (Irish Times)
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Do The Irish Times know for sure that he is the man who stabbed Jonny?
Allegedly is the key word in that statement
IT don’t have the word allegedly in their headline – if you read it.
On the video, you can see this guy circle back and then attack the victim before leaving the scene.
So yes, it was him who stabbed Jonny..
There you go Hank. Glad you cleared that up. No need for a trial so.
No need for a trial to find him and bring him in for questioning, no.
Why would there be no need for a trial if the video clearly shows that this guy did stab the other? The purpose of the trial is to establish if, and which, crime was committed in the process of the stabbing.
Loads of reasons Zynks.
Sorry Zynks, misread that
We have to establish that somebody definitely is the person depicted in the video.
The cops issued the release, hardly a media witch-hunt.
Agree, but it needs to be proven before you can say for sure. By omission of the word ‘allegedly’, IT insinuate he’s guilty without trial.
This is the unidentified man that stabbed Johnny Cooper. It is a still taken from the CCTV footage which goes on to show him in the act of stabbing. At the moment the scumbag has not been identified so there is no need for legal tiptoeing. Were they naming him then the allegedly comes into play.
Of course if he wants to come forward and sue the Irish Times then I’m sure the gardaí would be only too happy to help him.
Well said.
*returns to sharpening scythe*
And they have footage of him doing the stabbing.
Have you seen it?
What odds does that make?
Well if you’ve seen both pieces of footage and you’re certain it’s the same guy well that’s fine. If you haven’t and you’re not sure, then the assailant still needs to be referred to as alleged.
You’re correct Llareggub he might have disappeared and been replaced by his identical twin brother between frames.
Llareggub you don’t have to have seen the footage. we’re allowed to place sufficient trust in IT to report the facts. generally that’s what happens when we read newspapers and watch the news…so we don’t have to go out and independently verify every little detail. ‘Allegedly’ also does not need to feature in the headline.
We should place sufficient trust in the IT? I beg to differ.
You’re happy to condemn someone for having an envelope with their name on it appear on CBS news report but when the IT publish a garda released CCTV image of a man involved in a stabbing you leap to defend his innocence.
Do you recognise him?
Rest assured Bertie, if I recognised him I would be onto the confidential hotline. I am not leaping to defend him. This is a horrible crime and ninety percent of the commenters on here have joked about this man’s identity – that’s just hideous in my opinion. I made the point that the Irish Times should have used the word alleged in their headline.
And, as he is unidentified, you were wrong on that point.
**** it Llareggub – just grass him up to the guards. We can worry about the niceties after.
I would add I find your defense of this person, suspicious in its own right.
Suspicious? Wow a bit of a leap there Odious. I make a point about the omission of a word in the IT headline and now I’ve got the guy hidden in my attic! Nice work and well done you. Let’s hope you never get called for jury service. Please demonstrate where I defended the man in the still.
But but BS readers are happy to believe everything Kitty Holland says…I’m confused.
It’s Steve Owen!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Owen_(EastEnders)
its peter collins
It’s Nick Cave.
It’s Nick Cave and Peter Collins. Both same person.
Creepy walk. Is he looking for someone to stab?
It’s Shane Vendrell
Its Nick Cave!
that’s defo nick cave, he must be back on the smack…
Ha!
+100
Exactly what I thought too!!
Agreed – it’s Nick Cave!
It wasn’t me, I was with Kylie that night.
It’s Llareggub!
Allegedly.
ha
Bill Murray!
Its Eddie Hobbs. Just out for a stroll looking for bargains…
it’s gary numan circa 1986
I was thinking Richard E Grant
Do you have to be a semi-celebrity to qualify for this kind of attention to see justice done?
Yes. Celebrities are better than us and the gardaí have never previously released footage or stills from CCTV in an attempt to solve crime.
They have, on CrimeCall.
You mean the gardaí have a monthly television programme which heavily features CCTV footage and photo fits and is dedicated to enlisting the public’s health in solving crimes where the victims were not celebrities?
Any time I’ve watched it they did. I don’t believe they are doing anything unusual here by issuing the CCTV evidence, nor giving this case any special treatment because the victim is a footballer (hardly a ‘celebrity’).
Ah Spaghetti, that’s been my point all along.
Ok, I must have misunderstood your point.
As you were.
Hope they catch him.
Ok can you help me make a sex tape or something, so that I will be well looked after in future?
You’ll have to buy me dinner first.
It was a very serious attack and people here seem to be playing a game of what celebrity the attacker looks like. Have a bit of cop on and don’t be so insensitive. Lad was stabbed 9 times by this scum bag.
Brogan?
In fairness, I’d imagine everyone posting here is just as appalled as you are about what happened. And I’m sure everyone really hopes this c*&t is caught and severely punished. Is suggesting that the scumbag looks like various famous people really insensitive though? Does it make the ordeal all the more difficult for the victim? I doubt it.
Ahem….
Feck off.
Thanks.
Why should Alan feck off? He made a valid point. Is it because he’s not a regular here that you pick on him this way? His opinion is as valid as yours.
*His opinion is allegedly as valid as yours..*
‘ bit scrawny int’ he?