45 thoughts on “Not Sinking In”

        1. Mani

          Yes. It was good back when Delores Whatserface released it as a cover of the Pink Floyd song about ten years ago. God that was awful.

  2. Nessy

    €10 return trip from most places like Cork and Offaly to name a couple.. I think Joe needs his pipes cleaned, he’s talking sh*te

  3. Just sayin'

    Funny because its possibly true. If a family came up from Kerry and had a meal or two while here, it could easily hit €150.

    2. ahjayzis

      A meal and a trip they’ll have paid for once.

      As opposed to handing that cash over for a service they’re already paying for.

      Sure it’s the same either way, sure.

      Can they skip the water tax if they double-pay at the restaurant?

      1. delacaravanio

        Only if they paid the VAT on the bill with money they earned that was subject to PRSI, PAYE and USC.

    3. ollie

      What exactly is your point? joe and his fellow tossers gave themselves over 20,000 euro this week for p.r. maybe broadsheet could pick this news story.

    4. Wayne Carr

      Less the money that family would have spent on electricity, food, and transport in Kerry. Suddenly Joe is looking prettttty foolish.

    5. Bobby Rwanda

      Ah yeah, let’s have a meal or two when we get to Dublin. What? Bring our own sandwiches? Would ye ever get the boat. The recession’s over. Did ye not hear?

    6. Frilly Keane

      WTF

      So what if a family spent 150 yoyos
      Or 1050 yoyos

      What’s the Fine Girls Ya Are next move?
      Remove the free travel pass?

      As I said earlier

      Tis pathetic

  7. ahjayzis

    Someone hold the good deputy down while I repeatedly scream at him that it doesn’t f**cking MATTER how much the bloody bill is.

    Honestly, it’s like they want us to hate them.

    1. Spaghetti Hoop

      The next election is going to be a complete wipeout. Joe’ll be able to travel where he likes with that fat pension.

      1. Frilly Keane

        An make a bigger tit of yourself
        No problem

        Only. Who do you want people t’vote for?

        Indos can only form a Government with the Tiocfidhs

        Happy days

      3. Sancho

        Is your problem the recent sex allegations only or is it also SF’s history in NI and the IRA? If it’s honestly only the first, then fair enough but if it’s the latter then I dont think that’s fair.

        I once thought- yes, SF and the IRA, stay up north you moany pri*ks- but after becoming good friend with a few nordies, my attitude changed. I believe the IRA were necessary to stand up for and protect the Irish in the North. It’s accurate that the Republic turned its back on the North starting with Dev and many in the Republic are embarrassed by the North. This was a terrible thing to do. The harsh reality is that Irish up there were treated horribly by the Unionists and London and had no recourse to the law. Districts were gerrrymandered to prevent the Irish being represented and there was institutional discrimination and overt, public racism. What did people really expect the Irish to do? Just take it? Of course Gerry was in the IRA, so what? Did the IRA do a lot of bad things? Yes. But what do suggest should have happened up north? What do you propose would have worked for the Irish up there during the 50s-90s? I ask that quite sincerely.

        The other legitimate argument for not voting SF is that their policies are unsound. (TBH, I havent really followed the sex allegations so I’m not going to weigh in on that. For the sake of argument, I’ll accept that it’s a good reason not to vote for SF.) Re SF’s policies, they are becoming more robust. I attended a SF talk in UCD years ago and challenged Gerry on his ignorance of anything outside their 32 county policy. At that time, he was unable to answer me properly. But, they have come along way from then. And yes, they do tend to have more right of centre policies up north and left of centre in the South. Yes, this suggests some political opportunism. Also, their decision not to pay water charges came after they had said they would pay. At the same time, in the South, they are giving a voice to many working class people that FF/FG and the established media (Irish Times, Indo and RTE) would usually ignore so there are definitely some positives in their policies- especially if they get these people in the habit of voting. And regarding their political opportunism, i agree it doesn’t exactly win one over, but if you’re being reasonable, is it that such a big deal? Water charges are reasonable in theory (though IW is a horrible quango and there is much, much wrong with what FG are trying to do) and personally, I’d be right of centre. Anyway, show me a politician that doesn’t engage in political opportunism. It’s a Q of degree really. And assuming you have to vote- you’re going to vote for someone. I’d support some of the independents- Stephen Donnnelly (sp) but not all of them. Mick Wallace? He’s good, generally, but has he paid his taxes yet?! Michael Lowry? Jackie Healy Rae (or his kids now)? Independents are hardly a panacea to all our ills. And if you going to take a punt on an independent, why not take a punt on SF?

        Anyway, I’m going on longer than I meant to. Really my question is- do you hold the IRA against SF?

        1. Clampers Outside!

          I’m Indie and Green. Now that’s out of the way….

          It’s SF, it’s not the IRA connection. And yes, they did a lot of good up North.

          On policies and government I do see the contradictions as opportunism rather than having any integrity. I see this also in the refusal to deal with the authorities on the issue of releasing sex offenders into the South.
          Now, it has been put to me that that all this mess around the sex offenders happened during the years running up to the Good Friday Agreement in 1998. And that there was still a war. The IRA ceasefire was four years in by this time, so I don’t see how reporting sex offenders would upset the peace process in that way, with guns. People on the ground in the North on either side would have wanted paedophiles and rapists locked up. I don’t believe the people of either side would see it as detrimental to the process. But SF did, they saw it as detrimental to their party and I don’t believe that either. I believe the party would have continued if they handed those offenders over to the police.

          Now, why didn’t they? They say it was because the people had nowhere to turn to that SF ended up having to deal with these cases. And they throw their hands up in a woe is me fashion, we weren’t up to this, this is terrible…..
          Who created that situation? Sinn Fein did through an active policy of non-cooperation with the police. I have friends in the North who agree with this point quite strongly.

          Now, here we are, 16 years after the Cahill case apparently was first heard by SF. There’s not just hers though.
          The SF denials of other similar cases went on for a couple of weeks back and then denials stopped when it was shown that there were SF documents “acknowledging” dealing with these cases. SF are refusing to discuss the whereabouts of the sex offenders, and under questioning in the Dail continued to refuse.
          8 names to date have been given to the Gardai, by a TD from Offaly (no idea where these came from). There are, upwards of 30 offenders it was said in the Dail (speculated in the Dail?). And it was said that there are 28 victims seeking justice through the Gardai (Michael Martin said that).
          [ A day later, Mary Lou throws a wobbler in the Dail. Coincidence…? me eye, a political hyper-drama distraction and more woe is me. IMO. ]

          So, I cannot see integrity in any of that, none. And it’s not a financial collapse in values going on here, like that which we see happening to all the other parties. In that those parties are hitting the poorest worst. With Sinn Fein they have a completely gutted sense of what is right when they allow sex offenders to roam free.
          I believe that they are using the ‘that was the troubles’ as a shield to protect their party. I believe the dates of events show that.
          Many SF supporters tell me I’m digging up the past, saying that was decades ago… it wasn’t. And it wasn’t in the thick of guns and bombs going off either.
          There’s only one reason not to give the details and that is to protect the party. And it is “Party First” politics in extreme mode, to the extreme that they are willing to protect these offenders at the expense of the public, not by financially strangling them, but with the letting of sex offenders run free. I find that highly unconscionable.

          It shows a party devoid of any self scrutiny, completely lacking in any integrity and morally corrupt. I’m not into, these eggs are bad, but those eggs are badder with regard to other parties or the church. I just cannot trust Sinn Fein.

  11. Steve

    Yeah it’s really not sinking in for you folks is it. A million people sending back validation packs to IW since September. But 35k people march yesterday and that means the WHOLE nation wants the government to fall. Lolz

  13. Mr. T.

    Young Fine Gael are on super troll alert. I have an inside source. Ha ha, the stupid f*ck has no idea I am relaying all his info.

  14. Ferret McGruber

    I love all these “Let Them Eat Cake” FGers. I hope they never stop them alienating the great unwashed amongst us. More rope for the politicians please garcon.

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