Drugs and machine guns on display today in relation to a drugs seizure in Clondalkin, Dublin relating to a gang known as The Family on Tuesday.
The heroin and cocaine and kebabs have an estimated street value of €4.9 gajillion
Name those ‘pieces’ anyone?
Above from top: John Ferris Garda press officer, Supt Brendan Connolly, Detective Colm O’Malley and Detective Sgt Mick Tracey.
(Sasko Lazarov/Photocall Ireland)
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“anyone”? :P
Submachine guns from the look of them. MP5s, a Steyr Aug in 9mm.
It’s *shocking* I tell you Joe, what Garda Superintendent gave them a licence for dem yokes?
Counter strike player
Yup, pretty much. Never seen them in real life except in police hands in Germany (you can’t own them anywhere in the EU without special permission from the government, since 1991).
I think I’ve seen the army using those Steyrs when they were taking money to the banks?
The Army’s Augs are the NATO 5.56 model, that’s the 9mm model on the table up there. And I’d seen Augs the same way you did, when the army was moving money for the banks; it’s the MP5 I’ve not seen in Ireland before now. Our Gardai used Uzis and then the MP9, they never had the MP5 (that I know of). But then, this is kindof outside of what I know :D
Why the weird size of bullet?
I mean 9mm that’s fairly straightforward But 5.56 its almost but not quite a 0.22?
Standard NATO size round, same as they use in the M-16. Lots of armies standardised on it to save money. The Americans started using it because it was lighter than the older rounds they used so soldiers could carry more of them.
Oh, and don’t think of “calibre” as being a measurement like bullet diameter – it’s not really. “Calibre” is like the marketing name for a specific kind of round. You put all the manufacturing specifications for the round (the size and shape of the bullet, the size and shape of the cartridge, the amount of powder it can take, the amount of propellant it’s safe to use in it, all that jazz) on a sheet of paper, and the title at the top, that’s the calibre.
So your .22lr round, yeah, it’s got a similar bullet diameter to the NATO 5.56, but that’s where the comparison ends, the rest is hugely different. Here’s a NATO 5.56 round (the big one) beside the .22lr:
http://guns.ie/photos/misc/22LR-556.jpg
Do I need to mention that photo’s zoomed in? I probably do, don’t I? Yeah, the smaller round there, the .22lr, it’s less than an inch in length in total.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ce/Dimension_of_a_%22.22_Long_Rifle%22_ammunition_round.png
So much for their proposed gun regulation plans Mark. They obviously didn’t factor these fellows in.
That can’t be right Jack, they wouldn’t propose banning several sports and confiscating thousands of firearms that’ve been owned in Ireland for years if it wouldn’t stop criminals, would they?
I mean, granted, they could just stop giving the drug dealers firearms licences, but I’m sure they know best, right?
Ah I scrolled down hoping you hadn’t already got here. Forgot about your spidey senses obviously.
I would have got the Aug, wouldn’t have said MP5 though. Call of Duty.
See, you need to play more Battlefield 4.
How do you expect small indie game companies like EA Games to prosper if you don’t pay their games? :D
BF4 ruined the series, I still dust off the PS3 to play some BF3 or some BF bad company 2.
I played em all til the next gens came out and then I stopped. I like both CoD and BF for different reasons but somehow got more familiar with the guns through Call of Duty.
Smart. Same type of ammo for each.
awful shame they have to burn it.
ah well
*sigh
the silencer on the pistol is pretty creepy
After 8pm in built up areas it’s just good manners.
Heres a good write-up on silencers and how they work
http://bit.ly/1CCUVTW
Interestingly shotgun silencers are often used by regular hunters so their dogs don’t go deaf after a few years.
The Gardaí have no sense of image. In other countries when they pose with their drugs haul the cops look cool but these look like a bunch of half wits who just realised they’re in the wrong room.
That’s because the Gardai are, in general, half-wits.
Least hard cops EVER
Because they don’t feel the need to act like a bunch of poseurs?
+a quintillion
Want to make a joke about The Family being drug-related but it might be a little on the nose.
Are these weapons ever used in attacks or anything? Or is it a case of merely owning them and letting other gangs know what kind of firepower you have protection enough?
What’s the story with our cops? A good oul booby trap could sorted this out in seconds. Rig the guns to explode as soon as they’re picked up
Jays
They must be mighty sangwiches there under that tingfoil
Name those pieces anyone?
Is this a trick question? are these lethal weapons or paintball rifles?
Actually, the pistols on that table and paintball markers are legally classed as the same thing…
What about Ballpoints or, or, or the slick Felt-tip, some marker that!
No, I’m not kidding. Paintballers call them markers, not guns. And under Irish law they’re restricted short firearms because everyone forgot about them while writing the law.
(Not kidding about the reason either).
So, you go paintballing and you’re up for seven years in prison and twenty grand in fines; exact same offence as if you had the pistols off that table up there in your possession.
Hang on. So are you saying that if I go paintballing in one of the places in Wicklow/Laois I could be put in prison for 5 years and be fined €20k?!
Yes. And it’s because of an unintentional oversight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrWq1mvxxDk
Now will any Garda ever enforce that law? Probably not. Unless someone annoyed them. But yeah, if they wanted to, they could.
Edit: Except sorry, no, not five years in prison. Seven. Paintball markers are technically restricted short firearms y’see, and the restricted bit takes the penalty up to seven years instead of five.
I saw that discussion posted here some time a few weeks back. You’d swear the paper the laws were written on was used for target practice there were so many holes in it :)
I presume the gang’s name is pronounced Fambly.
Can’t really tell what the pistols are from that angle but the submachine guns are definitely MP5’s and the one with the scope is a Steyr AUG. What’s really concerning is that the MP5 is widely used by military and police, and the Steyr is used by our own military – makes you wonder how they got in to the hands that they did.
I’m pretty sure the Irish Army doesn’t use the 9mm AUG so it probably hasn’t come from there but, that being said, I’m sure it’s not that difficult to convert the 5.56mm to a 9mm and it would probably be a lot easier to import the relevant parts than a full weapon so it could be a bit of both.
And I thought the Broadsheet.ie Lindor give away was good!
Are they not wedding presents for the recent Fermanagh nuptials?
The Irish army used 9mm mp5’s, the anti terrorist unit in the Rangers used them for close quarter engagements. It’s sad that you still see the odd 1970’s Uzi in the hands of a detective somewhere, usually on a cash in transit job. At least the drugs unit detectives seem to have glocks or sigs now instead of smith and Wesson 6 shot revolvers.
I had a detective in my house before after a break in. He had some well old looking 6 shooter.
Also saw some plaincloth Gardai on Suffolk street before with an uzi, I thought it pretty strange because if it wasn’t for the vest It just looked like some dude with a gun at a corner.
I believe the supressed pistol is a Beretta 9mm (model 92 or some such) and the one underneath looks like a Heckler and Koch USP, also 9mm.