.@CnaG protesting outside #eircode launch re exclusion of 50,000 Irish addresses from database. pic.twitter.com/2kv6GclbrI
— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) July 13, 2015
The awkward moment when #eircode haven’t given the Four Courts a code. #shambles
— Patrick Conboy (@pat_conboy) July 13, 2015
Seems where I live just moved from Cavan to Dundalk …. WTF #eircode
— Dermot Kennedy (@DermoKennedy) July 13, 2015
And, with the introduction of #eircode, the entire community of Ballysaggart is wiped out. pic.twitter.com/aouxn21LO3
— Aoife Bennett (@AoifeAnnMartha) July 13, 2015
Shannon Airport’s been teleported to Limerick by #Eircode. pic.twitter.com/Gb3wuUmrIT
— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) July 13, 2015
Eek.
Some reaction this morning as Communications Minister Alex White launched Ireland’s new €27million national post code service, Eircode.
Find or check an Eircode here
Previously: Living Off The Grid
Thousands of place names have no Eircode, says campaign group (Irish Times)
…good man Alex…make sure they know where to send the labour pensions…get your priorities right.
An overpriced clusterf*ck? Never saw that coming.
The lyrics may change but the soundtrack sadly stays the same.
I checked my address, my old address & my parents address. All bang on, no problems. Wonderful system. 10/10 would use again.
My parents address is listed as being in a town 30km away from where they live.
This might just be because the official postal address of your folks gaff is in a post town 30kms away.
Very often people think their address related to a particular area but according to An Post (who’s database Eircode is based on) see differently.
But it could be a screw up too, because I have no idea what the addresses are.
The Shannon airport issue makes me wonder about how much they used the GeoDirectory.
thy fully used GeoDirectory at a guess. All of the An Post “Shannon airport” addresses are in Limerick: but that is the postal address (i.e. which sorting office is used)
see http://correctaddress.anpost.ie/pages/result.aspx?QuickSearch=SHANNON%20AIRPORT&Lang=English
“Official address”? As opposed to the place they actually live? They’ve been put in an entirely different county for feck sake.
We are the classic Irish family farm split amongst siblings and out of the 6 houses only 2 are correct, including two which have moved village, one which has been assigned the address of the other and one which has no eircode. Apparently they won’t change any of these. Fantastic.
Can you elaborate a bit here?
When you say two have moved village do you mean the address or the location or both?
Like when you look up one of the addresses is the location on the map off?
Yes, Eircode have literally lifted two houses into the next village – it was quite the sight!
Euro 27 Million? to generate a postcode system? for an area the size of 1 average US state (indiana)? Seems kinda high..am I wrong?
It does.
Massively so.
In fairness, it’s pretty low on the usual scale of Irish government f*ckups.
Where the fupp is LV426 ! ?
A post code isn’t an address.
It is a post code.
True… lame joke was lame… best just take off and nuke it from orbit, just to be sure.
Mine new post code…. D08 HRHx
(I left out the last no. for me own privacy… and to keep away the riff raff)
“DO8” – Dublin 8, straightforward enough….
“HRH” – “His Royal Highness” …naturally :)
Dont leave only one digit/letter out .. DONT
I have some bad news… look, I know, but it was the only way to be sure
One of the girls in here typed in her address…”Celbridge is in Naas” according to eircode!
It’s to do with where your incoming post is sorted before being delivered to you……or something like that, I think. People need to not get hung up on it. Just use your address as before but tag the postcode on to the end and in most cases it should work fine.
Admittedly, this system seems wrong to anyone familiar with the UK system which allows you to get your bearings using a postcode.
Mine is wrong. Shows my apt. as being in another building.
They should have used Loc8.
Does anyone else have an issue with the massive data protection breach that is going on here? If I have a partial address of someone, I can pretty quickly verify it or indeed dump the entire address system. Its the same way that SPAM email bots can verify if an email is live or not and target only those that are.
Cant dump everything, system is currently limited to 15 searches per 24h per IP address
Restricted by cookies. If you were of a mind you could throw together a script that bypassed that in a few minutes. Webdriver, Java and enough ability to parse a text file could iterate through said text file of addresses, log the response from the eircode site and never once fall afoul of the 15 requests per day restriction. And that’s probably not even close to the fastest solution.
I read now you can get the DB dump for €60 – there is no data protection issue here as these are just addresses, nothing else.
+1
“Houses exist and are places” shocker!
Nothing that couldn’t be done by a nosey parker going around writing down addresses.
I found mine no problem. Such a miserable bunch of moaners in this country. Give them a chance to iron out the problems, at least.
Actually, with the amount of time already invested in this the problems should have been ironed out before launch. That they have not been is in fact unacceptable. This has been years in the creating, so lots of time to quite literally check every address in the country and verify it.
IW weren’t able to totally figure it out either.
Clearly there was never a centralized record kept. Which seems daft.
If people don’t moan, they won’t know what the problems are.
Looking forward to liveline this afternoon.
That’s one of the problems.
My street in a country town does not contain house numbers except for one house. So it will only generate the Post Code for that house??????
I woke up this morning and found I didnt care
+FU2 XBAN
Born under a bad sign with a blue moon in your eyes.
No wonder they couldn’t find the bloody address.
Sure why would we be wanting postcodes when Random House Name, Ballybackwards, Co, Somewhere. will do?
Some of the addresses in this country are a joke. While they might seem lovely and individual, and the local postman knows where it is, it makes it bloody hard for emergency services to find people.
I agree the overspending is a farce, but this needs to happen.
Yes, but I believe everyone who lives in Random House Name, Ballybackwards, Co, Somewhere has figured out a way to direct traffic to their house (first house on teh left past Local Housing Estate, big black gates with hanging baskets – the taxi company knows us as Hanging Baskets).
The new codes will not improve anything for emergency services. See here: http://mapscribbles.blogspot.ie/2014/05/eircode-first-look.html
It is insanity to suggest that a postcode system needs to account for places that do not receive post.
That mentalist seems to be suggesting that a postcode is the only method of alerting people to your whereabouts.
“The dying and injured will have to crawl to the nearest house in order to ask them for their postcode and hope someone is in and awake. You cannot report a crime an Eircode that is not your own home.”
That’s a thing somebody wrote.
Absolute mentalism.
What happened before? Did the dying and injured have to crawl to the nearest house and ask for an address? I guess that makes it a better system?
Or did they just lie there and die wishing for a geographic location based identifier that they had memorised for just such an occasion. They were expecting Irish Grid coordinates on every inch of path?
Clearly not familiar with the concept of hyperbole.
The point that is being made is that if nearby geographical locators were given a code, or each road given a code it wouldn’t be long before the emergency services could pinpoint someone. The next gen internet will have enough IP addresses to give every object on the planet its own. So why not a postal code that reflects this?
Also read the linked article where the author (clearly knowledgable) gives an excellent comparison of existing code systems and finds them all superior, for a number of reasons, to Eircode.
Whereas giving someone an address in Limerick when they live in Clare should really help the ambulances out.
My address is not found. But guess that’s cause I’m in the really rural area of… Sandyford!!
Have you tried searching without the word Sandyford?
So the new system has some irregularities to iron out and feedback to process – granted. Why launch a street protest?
Because CnaG feel that 50,000 addresses have been left out because they are in Irish.
And it could take 2 years to sort.
I have 2 thoughts on this.
1) There are Irish language elements in both eircode and GeoDirectory databases. Are they both wrong?
2) 27 million should be able to cover Irish too, shouldn’t it?
I agree this system needed to happen but jaysus they’ve made a balls of it.
My housing estate at home shows the following:
5 Brookfield: N91 DT78
6 Brookfield: N91 H4X5
7 Brookfield: N91 A3X9
I can accept that the N91 is obviously the area/town but how in gods name can 3 houses in a row all have random codes? There is literally no logic behind the assigning of codes.
That’s because they want them to be individually and uniquely addressed.
You only need to change one digit to do that.
Only 1digit you say? Go on then
You literally just described the logic behind them and then said there was no logic behind them,
A system with unique values that follows incremental logic is one people would re-use (much like the system in the UK).
For example:
5 Brookfield: N91 A3X5
6 Brookfield: N91 A3X6
7 Brookfield: N91 A3X7
Why would my neighbours postcode be worlds apart from my postcode when we literally live metres apart?
Its a postcode.
It is a unique identifier for a database.
Your address identifies your gaff to people.
Your eircode identifies your gaff to the eircode database.
I don’t know why they did this the way they did (I can hazard a few guesses, our monty python obsession with data protection for one) but I don’t know why people would be bothered about sequentiality in something like this.
Because if the post codes were assigned in some kind of incremental manner getting the code wrong wouldn’t matter quite so much. It might end up next door instead of an entirely different housing estate. Which would matter even more if they still plan on using this for the emergency services (Granted, they probably wouldn’t use them as a primary form of location).
Fair point.
And you’re probably every bit as likely to end up with and address on the other side of the county.
Although as I said….its not an address.
If you couple an incorrect postcode with a correct address it should be obvious to anybody who isn’t useless that the address connected with an eircode is not the same as the supplied address.
Either way you need to check the address against the eircode and vice versa.
what happens when your neighbour builds a house in their garden? do they get N91 A3X6a?
Its a housing estate so its not likely to happen.
Different postbox, different code.
What I want to know is where is N91, and how big is the area. I presume some techie maphead is beaving away to create a map of the codes as we speak.
Nothing that useful on the eircode site, of course
it should be the long number followed by the short number
SA31 3LE
not
3LE SA31
Its daft…..
why should it be long number followed by short?
Phone numbers tend to be grouped as “xxx xxxx”.
I plan to toally ignore eircode. PROBLEM SOLVED. Now there’s just the small matter of a 27MILLION EURO spend that can’t be jsutified but I’m sure the toothless PAC will ask some pointless questions.
Why is it called an Eircode? Why not a Postcode?
Why do we have to slap a half-hearted shamrock on everything?
Also, why does my house get it’s own code, instead of sharing with a few houses? Seems really wasteful and I can’t understand why it’s not sequential…
Much like the Leapcard – why didn’t we just rip off the best system we could find abroad instead of spending loads of money reinventing the wheel?
This is true – why not have a look around and see who does it best and go with their idea?
Don’t need to reinvent the wheel everytime…
Ha! You took the words right out of my mouth.
It stuns me every time.
As regards calling it Eircode v Postcode – trademark, I would presume.
loc8 can find any location in the country now,eircode can only find a place that eircode has given a code to.If you get a satnav that supports eircode it will become out of date as new houses are built.No temporary structures like roadworks etc can be addressed.Might the 27 million be a subsidy to an post.
Except, the 27 million wasn’t given to An Post.