Bushy Park in Terenure, Dublin 6 and a poster for the Terenure Family Fun Day
A campaign group is trying to establish an Educate Together primary school in Terenure, Dublin 6.
The Terenure Educate Together Primary School Start-Up Group was set up by local parents who couldn’t find places for their children in local religious-run schools because their children were not baptised.
At the weekend the Sunday Times published a report about the group’s founder Nikki Murphy.
Claire Scott reported:
“Nikki Murphy from Terenure has applied to 13 schools for [her four-year-old son] Reuben, but was turned down by nine because he is not a Catholic or a member of any other religious group. Another four schools, with a multi-denominational ethos, said that they were already oversubscribed.”
In 2011, after carrying out a survey, the Department of Education recommended that such a school should open in the area because of the demand.
However the final decision has yet to be made and will rest with the Department of Education.
As part of its campaign, the Terenure Educate Together Primary School Start-Up Group will be offering those interested to register their interest in such a school at a family fun day in Bushy Park on Saturday, August 15, from 1pm to 4pm.
There will be TWO extra large bouncy castles.
Fair play in fairness.
Terenure Family Fun Day (Facebook)
Dublin 6: Sufficient Demand for Educate Together School (Educate Together)
So ypu quote the sunday times article but not the reply from the ArchBishop which I’ll summarise:
1. The problem is not catholic schools but a lack of school places. “Another four schools, with a multi-denominational ethos, said that they were already oversubscribed.””
2. The slow progress of handing catholic schools over to new management is not down to the chuch but is due to vested interests including parents and local politicians.
God bless the bigoted Broadsheet
Or it could just be that the response is nonsense.
1. Suggests that prioritising places to kids from the RC faith is not the fault of catholic schools.
Which is bollox. The problem may be a lack of places, but that is irrelevant because faith, or rather participation in a single religious ceremony, is still being used as a criteria.
2. may be the case ( I doubt it, particularly given the roman catholic church’s culture ) but for it to be relevant, point 1 would have to not be true. People ARE being denied state education on the grounds of being a particular sect of a particular faith.
To suggest that pointing out such an injustice in a country with constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion as being bigotry, is bloody stupid.
On the first point – There is a lack of educate together schools because of point two.
On point two – Only ONE school has been “divested” under the govt scheme, and that came with hindrances / restrictions from the church – http://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/lease-dispute-at-only-school-divested-from-catholic-patronage-1.2305791
You’re talking through your hoop as usual Ollie, a link to the ‘response’ you speak of would be nice.
And a response to the archbishop from ET is at http://www.educatetogether.ie/media/national-news/no-school-discrimination
While divestment has been slow (despite the RC church and orders still having not paid up it’s 2002 redress obligations, never mind the non-legally-binding but promised further €200 million or so), the archbishop is partially right: There are just too few schools in the area. In the case from the article, the four multi-denominational schools mentioned have no places available to the applicant. The catholic school on her road, however, would move her up the priority list, making a place available if her child were to be baptised. If her child isn’t baptised, then the answer is no.
These are NOT catholic schools.
They are state schools, paid for by all of us, run by catholics.
Another reason some people want Educate Together schools is so they don’t share classrooms with working class kids who might influence their accents make them sound a bit ‘common’.
Poor Reuben and Fiorentina.
Some do, certainly.
But what choice have the others?
Convert or be damned, the hethen organic food eating surrender Oisíns.
That isn’t true.
No, it isn’t and it’s the same guff that gets trotted out about Gaelscoileanna by people who know nothing and are proud to prove it.
@Mr. T.
You mean another reason, apart from 13 existing schools not taking these kids. What rubbish you wrote.
It is true. All the ever so polite and socially conscious middle class in their 30s/40s, living in the single digit post codes of Dublin are still the snobs their parents were.
They don’t any of their children near working class kids who wear pink and fluorescent Penny’s tops.
You all know it’s true which is why you react to it.
As a simple example, in Dublin there are educate together schools in Adamstown, Belmayne, Tyrrelstown, Ongar and Citywest to name just a few. These schools exist because new villages were created where a school was needed and Educate Together was open to all and no faiths so they were the most suitable option. Class simply didn’t enter in to it and if you went to any of those schools or villages you’d see that.
30 seconds of research would have prevented you displaying your unfounded ravings to all and sundry but far be it from you to let ignorance get in the way of expressing an opinion.
Yeah but I don’t care.
My parents were working class. I’m working class. I live in a working class area (on the southside). I do not want my son to go to a catholic school. He hasn’t been baptised nor will he be baptised. Why would I baptise a child into a religion that not only do I not practise but would strongly oppose and take offence to it’s dogma? Furthermore why would I allow a catholic indoctrination of my son in school?
Well done to these people trying to change what is inherently wrong with our society. It’s easy to sit back and pour scorn on those who strive to affect the status quo, what with their posh accents and silly names and notions and that.
ooh those parents are engaged in their children’s education – they must be ‘middle-class’ (whatever that means in Ireland of 2015) and snobby
WEST BRIT WANNABE LOVE-IN, SERIO THOUGH THATS A RIGHT FIRST WORLD CONUNDRUM THOSE POOR FOLK HAVE ON THEIR TABLE….SERIO THOUGH..JACK FLASH’S MAGIC SHOW..NOW YE SEE IT NOW YE DON’T…LOL…LOL.
Now you see it, now you never see it (Im talking about your caps lock)
with names like Nikki and Reuben ….jaysus wept…..
oh right….yeah…no jaysus allowed….
Katie Hopkins apprentice or just bored?
both – im afraid
but my comment is genuine…
…Educate Together schools seem to have managed to acheive a position of being perceived as the alternative to faith schools…they are anything but. They are multi-faith schools rather than secular. These initiatives sometimes seem like false flag operations.
back to the David Icke forum with you
Once again the sneering snobbery of the typical BS commentator rears its head.
Religion aside, we need to build plenty of new schools, even for the godless heathen hell-bound children. Bless them.
We do.
Its true.
But we lack money to pay for them.
Cos we pay bugger all tax.
And building a segregated school for every sect under the sun AIN’T the way to get bang for that buck.
Sectarianism is inefficient.
Hang on a sec, Terenure? I thought Bushy Park was in Templeogue.
It’s a big park. There’s bits of it that could be considered Rathfarnam too, if you were feeling generous.
Ah yes. Another “family fun” day/shake down exercise where joining in is mandatory. This time targeted at the Pope’s children of the Walkinstown/Knocklyon area (aka Terenure).
Cultural Marxism disguised as a “family fun day”. God help the poor sods who give up their free time to this lot of cranks. A cohort who’ve been banging the same drum for decades.
To everyone typing a response.
Yes, yes, we can all see that his words could very easily be turned around on him, that’s the idea.
I love that term “Cultural Marxism”.
Just like the RCC days out… except without the kiddy fiddlers running the show and being Cultural Fascists
The pope’s children? He gets around, doesn’t he!
I’m getting a mass said for ye all so that the weather will stay fine.
”Reuben eat all your gnocchi or you won’t get your organic sushi”