The vast majority of the ‘4,000’ must go through the Direct Provision system.

More as they get it.

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          1. John

            The terms and conditions of being a worker in a Magdalene laundry are far preferable. I know whose wing I’d prefer to be under.

          2. Cup of tea anyone

            I think John might have somewhat of a point. The direct provision camps are the Magdalene laundries of this generation.

  1. Fiach

    It was inevitable – Those unfortunates don’t know the misery that’s in store for them.
    Here’s hoping the new targets for speedy “processing” are met.

    1. Clampers Outside!

      New targets?

      …you mean some back bencher gone done a report that’s now sitting on some back bench gathering dust?

      Great at making targets is our gubbiment, not good at realising them.

  2. Owen

    This has become a joke. Typical government response. No plan, just a quick attempt at a solution. No long term thoughts.

    Do they think the problem will go away with 4,000 let in? What about 6 months down the line? 4000 more? What about 10 yrs down the line? A failure by the UN to not attempt to resolve the local situation to prevent their want to leave, a failure by the EU to not set up a location for them (in proximity to their homeland… not where they want) and now a failure on a local level to compound them to a life of ‘just getting by’ and not being part of a valued society.

    They are in a terrible situation yes, but no government is truly helping.

  3. 15 cents

    why is this a shock? suddenly 4000 people are entering the country looking for refuge. they have to go to the places where we put refugees. why would it be different than before? … everyones now a humanatarian, everyone wants to bring these complete unknowns in and just have them all instantly immersed in our society, working in the shops, pubs, factories etc. and pallin around with everyone.. that would be nice, but it doesnt work like that. we are a tiny country coming out of a massive recession, we cant just seemlessly integrate them into our society as easy as that. for a start, a lot of them are not guna be into our lifestyle at all, theyll probably be keeping to themselves. i live beside all the kebab shops on clanbrassil street, and theres tons of muslims living there, like a big proper community of them, and they totally keep to themselves, the only one of them who engages with me is one of the lads in mace, hes real sound, the rest grunt at you and dont even look u in the eye, and ive tried a number of times. i go to passion 4 food a good bit, and by now youd think they’d return my friendliness coz ive been there so much, but nothin, not a smile gets cracked, let alone a ‘how are you’.. so welcome them all ya like, but theyre not guna be millin around bein ur mate and goin for a pint with ya, or joinin the local community club.

    1. linbinius

      You have accurately described the situation I have had with the vast amount of neighbors, regardless of ethnicity etc., I have had over the years.

    2. Avon Barksdale

      Maybe you’d feel more comfortable if they were integrated enough to ask you for a euro for a hostel with every 5 steps you take?

      1. 15 cents

        that aids my point .. im sayin ya cant just chuck them in amongst soceity, coz thats whatll happen. direct provision is the only way to cope with suddenly 4000 people arriving.

      1. mauriac

        so Irish people and immigrants/refugees will exist in separate ,” cultures”.That’s a recipe for success.We need a stronger republican ethos and then any amount of people could be successfully welcomed.

    3. ahyeah

      Doesn’t matter how often you got to passion 4 food. they don’t recognise you. you pasty irish lads all look the same to us.

      1. Norbet Cooper

        Personally, I find them very friendly in there, try Friday lunchtime, the boys are always in a good mood. The area has seen a massive influx of immigrants in recent years and so far has been mostly positive for the area. The concern is that with so many new arrivals the demographic balance of the area is now really beginning to tip one way.

    4. Don Pidgeoni

      People in poo minimum wage jobs with poor customer services skills? You don’t say… Maybe head down the mosque on the next open day of you want to meet Muslim people.

      1. 15 cents

        so i have to adopt a new religion if i want to meet them in another capacity? the only time you interact with muslims is in kebab shops. yea that sounds racist, but where else? theyre not down the pub, at sports games, in the theatres, you dont come across them in other areas of society, they very much stick to themselves. youd have to seriously go out of your way to get to know them or mix with them. whereas other cultures in ireland have managed to mix in successfully.

        1. Don Pidgeoni

          Not sure where that comment went, have another.

          How does going to an open day for the purpose of addressing some of the things you have talked about like getting to know people from different backgrounds mean that you have to change your religion? And yes, saying that all the kebab shop people are Muslim does seem racist, because it is.

          I wouldn’t expect to see anyone who didn’t drink a pub, have you been in a pub sober? They are awful bogholes. And surprisingly, “they” do go to sports and the theatre.

          1. 15 cents

            well id imagine an open day in a mosque is for people interested in islam. im not racist, i dont hate all muslims for being muslims.. i dont hate them at all .. what im saying is they dont integrate into our society very well, as in, they don mix with us or other foreign nationals here. and to reference back my original point, is that suddenly chucking 4000 of them in the mix is guna create all sorts of issues, especially with ireland being so small, eg. the hazel hotel taking 500 or however many. ii think we should take in the 4000, but in a far more staggered time frame than whats been proposed, and to spread em out a good bit, so theyres not loads of them suddenly arriving in one place.

          2. Don Pidgeoni

            I’m not sure what you imagine since you thought I was asking you to convert.

            Have you ever been a foreigner living in another country? Its hard work. I don’t do it but I can understand why people do group together – see all the Irish who used to live in Kilburn. They didn’t integrate either! It’s a two way street between both the local population and people coming in. And using the kebab shop workers as your basis for any argument seems ridiculous frankly when you are assuming they are Muslim based on skin colour.

            They haven’t given a timeline for the people who are coming yet. Given that they are going to establish centres first, they aren’t all coming on one day and it’s not likely that those centres are all going to be one place.

          3. 15 cents

            its no regular kebab shop ill have you know .. it’s the best ive ever had, including zaytoons and thats saying something. yea i have lived abroad, loads of times.. and its really easy.

    1. Steve

      A friend put an ad up at 100 per week for a bottom end of the market room in a bad suburb of Dublin during the week. He got over 100 phone calls in one day. Same the next day. Some of the emails sent to him were absolutely pathetic. A mixture 30 and 40 something average chumps (probably a few years off a “road accident” if you know what I mean), young fellas from “the country” who are desperate to do something, anything in the big schmoke and newly arrived minimum wage workers.

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