Third World Order

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Bono during U2’s Innocence + Experience show in Berlin, Germany last night

“Boko Haram, in northern Nigeria, is well known now in the rest of the world, by virtue of its being horrific and violent, but it’s hardly the only group of extremists that’s active in the Sahel; Al Shabaab, The Lord’s Resistance Army, and Al Qaeda in the Maghreb are as well.

CIA analysts – who are not, as a rule, dewy-eyed development types – have looked at northern Nigeria and said that the best way to stop the militants in the long run is to end extreme poverty in the area and create a better, more inclusive education system, one that Muslims feel they have some stake in. When the CIA and anti-poverty activists agree, things must be very right or very wrong!”

U2 singer Bono

Spooks, dude.

*cough*

Marshall plan needed to make sustainable development a reality (Bono, Irish Times)

Pic: David Sven Darner

66 thoughts on “Third World Order

      1. Vote Rep #1

        From what I can see, being a famous multi-millionaire automatically makes you exceptionally handsome to many many beautiful women.

          1. Ming

            Ohh, ok, I forgot that everything in the news is 100% bona fide fact and that nobody would ever lie about anything and that if you happened to be skeptical about anything then this is evidence of a mental deficiency on your part despite, in this instance, the information coming from literally the horses mouth.

            Literally in the sense of not literally.

            It all makes sense to me now.

            Sense in the sense of non sense.

          2. ReproBertie

            For fupps sake Ming,

            That video is not evidence. I don’t speak Hebrew so I can’t say for sure what the guy on the TV talk show said but here’s a more realistic, less tin foil hat interpretation of the of events depicted in the video.

            Twin towers attacked.
            Jewish witnesses park van where they have a few of attack and film it (assuming there was filming being done).
            Nosey neighbour sees men filming attack and contacts police.
            Police, in heightened state of paranoia, pull van over and question men who say they are on their side (i.e. not terrorists).
            FBI deport men for no reason that’s explained in the video (or if it was I forgot it and can’t be bothered watching again but it specifically says the deportation was nothing to do with the attacks).
            Men tell Israeli talk show that they were only parked “there to document the event” in the translator’s words.
            Internet anti-jewish nutjobs throw party at finally having proof of Mossad involvement.

          3. MoyestWithExcitement

            “Ohh, ok, I forgot that everything in the news is 100% bona fide fact and that nobody would ever lie about anything”

            Yeah, just like that Israeli fella speaking on television in a language you don’t understand was definitely telling the truth. It’s been a while since I’ve seen someone contradict themselves that quickly on the internet. Several minutes, in fact.

          4. ReproBertie

            A very fair point Moyest. The news is obviously lies while this video made up of random clips, some in a foreign language, is clearly accurate historical documentation of Mossad agents admitting their role in planning the New York attack.

          5. f_lawless

            Here’s a discussion about it on Democracy Now with Amy Goodman and guests..
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98u5K448WQc
            ..Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who became a consultant for ABC News made the Mossad claim in an ABC news article… (you can google it).
            ..Also reported in “The Forward, a respected New York based newspaper…

            Given all that, it’s wholly reasonable to speculate whether or not they were Mossad agents, wouldn’t you agree?

          6. ReproBertie

            The article I linked to below is from ABC and says there were questions about whether or not they were spies. It’s a side issue though when the claim was pre-knowledge of the attacks. The video linked above does not provide evidence of any such knowledge.

      1. Ming

        Your summersault attempt to explain away every piece of evidence that does not comport to your world view Bertie/Moyest would be fine had it not been openly acknowledged by EVERYBODY involved that the individuals were working for Israeli intelligence….

        I’ll wait while you somehow incorporate that into your coincidence theory…

        “The FBI came to the conclusion… that the five Israelis arrested in New Jersey last September were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, N.J., served as a front”. Forward (A Jewish Magazine) March 15, 2002

        “Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.” US official quoted in Carl Cameron’s Fox News report (that was later erased from the Fox News website) on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.

        1. MoyestWithExcitement

          “it not been openly acknowledged by EVERYBODY involved that the individuals were working for Israeli intelligence….” and then later in your same post “Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified.”

          Lad, at least put SOME thought into th…never mind.

          1. MoyestWithExcitement

            Did you not just make some sarky quip about not everything on the news is fact? It’s pretty funny watching your reaction to people questioning YOUR sources of information considering you’re one of those Alex Jones types who’s been bred to believe everything on the news is part of some plot from the illuminati.

        2. ReproBertie

          Mark Regev, the spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, goes even further, asserting the issue was never even discussed with U.S. officials.

          “These five men were not involved in any intelligence operation in the United States, and the American intelligence authorities have never raised this issue with us,” Regev said. “The story is simply false.”

          Despite the denials, sources tell ABCNEWS there is still debate within the FBI over whether or not the young men were spies. Many U.S. government officials still believe that some of them were on a mission for Israeli intelligence. But the FBI told ABCNEWS, “To date, this investigation has not identified anybody who in this country had pre-knowledge of the events of 9/11.”
          http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1

          So, according to that report not everybody involved says they were Mossad.

          1. Ming

            “The spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington” denied it.

            What an killer point to win the argument. Unreal. I apologise for my credulity. Not.

          2. ReproBertie

            Yeah, very good. Of course that wasn’t my point. It was the debate within the FBI about whether the men were spies or not. Debate means there wasn’t consensus which means not everybody says they were Mossad.

            But all of this is irrelevant and the key point was the FBI statement that they found no evidence that anyone had prior knowledge of the attack. Of course that’s just the FBI saying it and not somebody who put together a collection of clips and Jewish images into a YouTube video so I can understand your skepticism.

      2. ReproBertie

        Even if they were working for Mossad (evidence being classified means we don’t know what it says) that doesn’t mean they knew the attack was coming. It doesn’t back up your claim in any way.

        1. bisted

          …Ahed Bakr, aged 10, Zakaria, 10, and two other boys from the Bakr family, both named Mohammad, aged 11 and nine…these were the four boys murdered on a Palestinian beach by the zionists…murdered in the eyes of the world…innocent kids playing football…no conspiracy theories required.

          1. ReproBertie

            What has that got to do with Ming’s claims that Jews had advanced warning of the Twin Towers attack?

        2. Zarathustra

          ReproBertie, for what it’s worth I’d like to say fair play to you for your comments on BS; you make your points rationally and without sarcasm or nastiness, and mostly without succour – even though the BS comment section used to be like this; keep it up lad, intelligent and objective comments are rare enough here nowadays.

        3. Ming

          THEY SAID THEY WERE THERE TO RECORD THE EVENT.

          Do I speak Hebrew? No, I don’t.

          But if you don’t think they said that then you are a conspiracy theorist because you are implying that every translation of that TV show footage was translated incorrectly by everybody online who somehow agreed in secret to translate it incorrectly and thereby deceive willing dupes like me, because there are no other translations of that footage anywhere on the web.

          So, what say you conspiracy theorist? I just know you’re goning to have a response.

          1. Ming

            Ming, for what it’s worth I’d like to say fair play to you for your comments on BS; you make your points rationally and with sarcasm, and mostly without succour (succour ?) – even though the BS comment section used to be like this; keep it up lad, intelligent and objective comments are rare enough here nowadays.

          2. ReproBertie

            It’s down to interpretation Ming. Yout interpretation of what they said is that they knew it was going to happen. Others, including me, take it to mean they pulled in to that spot to record it after they heard it was happening. This is from the link to the ABC article I referenced above: Sources also said that even if the men were spies, there is no evidence to conclude they had advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. As to what they were doing on the van, they say they read about the attack on the Internet, couldn’t see it from their offices and went to the parking lot for a better view.

            That’s a perfectly logical and reasonable explanation for what they were doing and doesn’t involve any conspiracies or spy agencies. I read about the attack on the internet but couldn’t see it from my office in Dublin so I went to the pub to watch it on Sky news. There were other people there doing the same thing.

  1. Mr. T.

    Bono speaking as though it is normal for the CIA to have a say and active part in the goings on of other countries.

    It is not acceptable for the secret service of one country to constantly meddle in the political, social and economic affairs of other sovereign nations. And they do the same here, make no mistake. Usually through the use of journalists and transatlantic educational programs.

  2. phil

    But what does Bono want? I wish he would take some time out of his busy schedule to tell us what he think himself ….

    1. ReproBertie

      Yes, U2 are a business and businesses should always pay the maximum tax they are required to pay and not seek to find better tax arrangements in other jurisdictions unless they are American businesses setting up in Ireland to take advantage of the low corporate tax.

    2. Bob

      He’s paid more tax to Ireland in his life than any of the rest of us. And if you had the choice of keeping more of the money you earned for yourself, you’d take it. We all would.

      1. scottser

        yeah but we don’t have either the money or the choice. all we have is begrudgery, and you want to take that away? you b@stard!

      2. jungleman

        I agree with this. However it’s his sanctimonious tone, in light of his tax deals, which really grinds people’s gears.

    3. rotide

      Apart from the fact the above comments are correct you are missing the fact that the multi-millionaires DO pay their tax at home. It was the business accounts that moved to the netherlands.

  3. Peter81

    Eventually the crowd got impatient and started chanting “Play that rubbish we inexplicably pay good money to hear” over and over

  4. Peter Dempsey

    Open defecation is known to perpetuate the vicious cycle of disease and poverty and is widely regarded as an affront to personal dignity.

  5. Anne

    You’d think the tax dodging pox would just shut the fupp up and sing.. even though he hasn’t a note in his head like.

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