Meanwhile, In The Dáil

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25 thoughts on “Meanwhile, In The Dáil

  1. Demon

    God be with the days when Christy Moore would instantly write a hit song on the subject. Gap in the market here, lads.

    1. Neilo

      That must be what’s driving record growth in the economy: all those multinationals come for our generous tax arrangements but stay for our endemic corruption.

      1. Mr. T.

        “Record growth”

        No it isn’t and the growth is not widespread either. Loads of already wealthy just availing of tax breaks.

        1. Oh Dear

          Oh my gawd! Someone should warn the people! Mr T has cracked it!

          *waits for all the money to disappear*

        2. Neilo

          Potato, potahhhto. What give you pleasure in this life? Apart from Snickers bars and not having to get on planes.

    2. rotide

      you should try India Topsy. Or Africa. Or most places outside of the ‘west’.

      You don’t know corruption.

      1. ahjayzis

        Oh you’re mad ’cause I burgled your house?

        How dare you?

        Seriously, where do you get off?

        What gives you the RIGHT?!

        HAVE YOU EVEN *SEEN* THE CRIME RATES IN ADDIS ABABA?!

          1. ahjayzis

            I think you’re the one confusing ‘endemic’ with ‘epidemic’.

            Endemic just means Ireland is a place corruption really feels at home.

        1. ahjayzis

          No, silly. The point he’s making is that we’d all feel better about it if we pretend we should be benchmarked against Ethiopia and Yemen, and not the rest of western Europe.

          1. classter

            But we might be better at dealing with it if we stopped pretending we are uniquely bad or uniquely human.

            Next door, the Chilcott Inquiry into the Iraq still hasn’t published its findings. The historic child sex abuse investigations look like they are being slowly dismantled.

            Almost all the big German firms (Siemens, VW, have been implicated in multiple different & far-ranging corruption / cheating scandals & all retain massive political influence in Germany. Merkel’s mentor Helmut Kohl was revealed to have operated an illegal slush fund (and may have taken bribes) in a scandal in which Schauble was also implicated. Did he spend even a day in jail?

            There has been a whiff of corruption over most of France’s presidents. Chirac was found guilty of a series of crimes, including embezzlement & received only a suspended sentence.

        2. rotide

          No, it should be looked at and dealt with.

          Just not treated like a sun headline

          “OH MY GOD EVERYONE IS CORRUPT IN THIS TORRID LITTLE NATION ON THE TAKE”

          Which just isn’t true no matter how much you like to tell yourselves.

          1. Owen C

            Transperency International Global Corruption Perception Index 2014

            http://www.transparency.org/cpi2014/results#myAnchor1

            Ireland comes 17th (1st is least corrupt) out of 174 countries. We are 9th among the EU-27. We are ahead of countries like the US, Austria, France, Spain, and Italy. Corruption certainly does not appear to be endemic in this country, unless it is in fact endemic across the globe. It is a silly suggestion. Ireland suffers far more from incompetent clientalist and recationary governance than it does corruption.

          2. Deluded

            The main criticism of TI is that by definition corruption happens behind the scenes, also (from Wikipedia)
            “data cannot be compared from year to year because Transparency International uses different methodologies and samples every year. This makes it difficult to evaluate the result of new policies. The Corruption Perceptions Index authors replied to these criticisms by reminding that the Corruption Perceptions Index is meant to measure perception and not “reality”. They argue that “perceptions matter in their own right, since… firms and individuals take actions based on perceptions”.”

            Is perception skewed by organisations who pay such low tax here? Does it account for the reality for people who aren’t business owners?
            This isn’t a gotcha; I’m interested in perception versus reality.

  2. Wayne Carr

    Ok so Fine Gael are in cahoots with your man with the Indo and the water, and government TDs are appearing on RTÉ bemoaning regulation of the rental market in a manner that would make P Flynn blush (I rent out ten houses and can’t raise the rent for two years – you give it a go sometime), but Gerry Adams is still taking orders from P O’Neill. Or at the very least, he has a beard.

    I do genuinely think that voting Fianna Fáil is the way forward. I’m pretty certain they got rid of all the bad guys, like Mary Hanafin and Michael Martin… wait, didn’t they?

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