I hope it’s all they want. They are now free to create Enid Blyton land (no pencils, obvs).
Turgenev
But lots of ginger beer.
England voted out, as did most of Wales, but Scotland and Northern Ireland were solid inners.
The old voted out; the working classes voted out. A young man interviewed on BBC said “Pensioners shouldn’t be allowed to vote” – but few young voters bothered to use their vote…
Will Europe now offer ‘Brexit 2’ à la Lisbon 2 and Nice 2?
The Real Jane
Well they’ve already said there’s no renegotiation available but why would they say otherwise before a vote? But what the UK voters want is incompatible with the EU.
Sido
Precisely.
kellma
well well well….. the next few months are going to be v interesting, I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr. Johnson is sh*tting himself now. I’d say he was hoping he wouldn’t actually win but would have the string in his bow that he tried to push for change.. It will be interesting to see how all this plays out now.
Frilly Keane
The Paddies are now the only English speakers in the EU ..
Nigel
Odds on we’re joined by the Scots.
The Real Jane
NI voted remain and it looks from a glance like that was the Catholic areas. Have the demographics been pulled out there yet?
Nigel
Anything to be said for an independent Northern Ireland that remains in the EU?
Paul
with a few billion from the UK propping up NI, no, I don’t think so.
Nigel
If the UK can continue to afford a few billion, that is.
Frilly Keane
But that’ll take years Nigie
They’ll have to apply for membership from scratch
And they have to get their own Independence vote over the line before anything anyway
Nigel
I’d say they’ll move that along smartly enough.
The Real Jane
Imagine Ireland united by Farage.
mildred st. meadowlark
That’s gas, but after this are off. I’m expecting snow shortly or something equally fun.
mildred st. meadowlark
*All bets are off.
Sido
Well not till the price of oil picks up Nigel. The thing was with “Project Fear” in the Scottish referendum, was the dodgy bookwork of the Scots Nats.
Exuberance almost carried it, which would have been unfortunate at $55 a barrel, or whatever it is now.
I also suspect shutting down the Trident bases on the Clyde would have put them into Uncle Sam’s “Cuba League”.
Nigel
I’ll bet the Scots are only delighted to find themselves in this wonderful position. And the Northern Irish. And approximately half the people of Britain.
Sido
Its called democracy Nigel. A plebiscite. Would you like me to explain to you how it works.
Nigel
Explain to me instead why that means the Scots the Northern Irish and nearly half the voters of Britain – maybe more than half now the abstainers have woken up to the markets – are, in fact, delighted. Which is what I said. Explain to me how the UK will prosper under the guidance of Johnson and Farage, while you’re at it. Then explain it to them because they clearly haven’t a clue.
Scotland’s future is being decided by provincial English folk over the age of 50. There’ll be more democracy soon with another border poll. It’ll be funny watching English nationalists who were talking about self determination telling the Scots about the importance of unity.
Harry Molloy
I’m all in agreement with you today Moyest
Sido
A bit to much explaining there Nigey. For a Broadshhet post anyway.
Let me summarise.
You’re coming from the position that the EU is all this and a bag of chips, just imagine what your position would be if you found out it was an unaccountable, unelected corrupt, totalitarian organisation, that was busy redistributing wealth to the elite at the expense of the proletariat. Or do you have to be a racist for that sort of a leap of the imagination – as you were implying a couple of days ago.
MoyestWithExcitement
“that was busy redistributing wealth to the elite at the expense of the proletariat”
Right, except leave voters think Polish working class people are to blame.
Sido
Forget it Moyest. You just aren’t Nigel at the end of the day.
Nigel
Hah, don’t resort to telling me where I’m coming from just because where I’m actually coming from doesn’t suit you. Your understanding of that is about as accurate as your understanding of, what was the word you used? Bigotry? You Humpty Dumpty, you. Mind you, my original point still stands, about all the less than delighted UKers, and my added point about how awesome the future looks in the steady guiding hands of Johnson and Farage! But sure, pretend that this will be a clean break with no mess and that those who brought this about have a clear plan to deal with all the effects it’s going to have on people! They were so careful about outlining them during the campaign!
MoyestWithExcitement
“Forget it Moyest. You just aren’t Nigel at the end of the day.”
OK then. That’s….weird. Anyway, you are ignoring the fact that people who voted leave did so because they blame immigrants for their lot as opposed to neoliberalism.
Harry Molloy
The brits always had our back in the EU, a big loss to us
martco
+1
hardly anyone talking about this aspect atall…we’ve just lost one of the engines here…maybe both of them
mildred st. meadowlark
Great point.
Paul Davis
Boris and Donald.
What a wonderful day…
Nigel
The future is in their hands!
Frilly Keane
Bet yere all sorry ye didn’t vote for Pearse n’Mary Lou & Co now
Nigel
I’m sorry we didn’t vote for Bosco and Fortycoats.
Frilly Keane
Well that’s who you got
Nigel
I thought we got Sneaky Snake and the Whirligig Witch.
Why did I imagine one of the Apres Match lads saying this, as I read it –
I like to look at Ireland’s relationship with the EU and the UK as a jockey riding two horses. Ireland is the jockey and the two horses are the UK and the EU. When the two horses are broadly moving in tandem, the jockey’s position is tolerable. But when the horses start moving off in opposite directions (as they are now), the jockey’s position becomes extremely uncomfortable.
Anne
Actually, this is the best bit –
Ireland is now caught by the contradictions of our European aspirations and our economic Anglo-American realities. We have to play a clever game, involving non-committal diplomacy, rather than picking unilateral sides. Our model should be the city-state of the medieval world – like Venice or Dubrovnik – playing sides off each other to our advantage, rather than committing ourselves to one side or another.
This is now time for soft power rather than hard decisions.
The Real Jane
I see they’re already making it clear that 350 million per week is definitely not going to the NHS. Poor, deluded people.
Anne
There’s a live feed on the telepgraph if anyone is interested –
Blushirts must be quaking in their boots dav, wha’?
dav
their lack of a statement speaks volumes
Spaghetti Hoop
Absolutely. Not a peep. They’re certainly not staying sshtum to add to Cameron’s pain (which the old brigade would do happily from the side view of the gallows).
dav
well that’s out of respect for their fellow Thatcherite Torty
Harry Molloy
They’ve a cabinet meeting at 10, statement to come afterwards.
Would hope for a fairly comprehensive statement given this
mildred st. meadowlark
I believe they call it damage limitation. Or something like that.
dav
spinnnnnnnnnn!
Bob
All the “Euro Elites” have to do is sit back and watch Britain tear itself apart. Then they turn to the rest of Europe and say, “See? We told you so.”
The Real Jane
Can we finally stop with the euro elites/unelected overlords stuff that we have been unlucky enough to import from the UK tabloids? Now that we can see where their determined stupidity, celebrating of ignorance and endorsement of lazy lashing out rather than understanding issues goes, can’t we just drop it?
Harry Molloy
I’d really love that. “paymasters” is another one
Kieran NYC
+1
Turgenev
If ‘migration’ was at the centre of the Brexit vote, as it seems, it puts both England and Europe in a fairly nasty light.
Many Irish people regard the Famine as genocide, when what happened was essentially “Quick, look the other way, boys, don’t look at the starving people and they’ll go away”.
Are Europe and Britain not doing the same – are we not doing the same – in relation to the flood of terrified refugees streaming out of Syria, Afghanistan and North Africa?
THREE! almost entirely coherent sentences from Frilly Keane. Print them out and frame for posterity.
jimmy russell
FTSE closed today higher than it was 8 days ago, it’s suffered a similar drops like this morning several times this year, each time bouncing back up. Calling 52% of the uk electorate racists and uneducated is as stupid as it is petulant.
The EU is a political union that should never have happened, it is a bloated monolith ruled by bureaucrats and civil servants, can anyone truly, deep down, believe that such a fundamentally corrupt institution can ever be “reformed from the inside”? It should never have been allowed more power than organizing free trade and the movement of people. I’m envious of Britain, throughout our history we have sought self determination, and yet on the birth of our nation we were handed over to the catholic church, and when their influence began to wane, we sought Brussels to take our burden away, their contempt for us evident after 2 referendums were shoved back in our faces, luckily for the British, they’re made of sterner stuff.
But yeah, old people and racists, that’s all this was about.
I hope it’s all they want. They are now free to create Enid Blyton land (no pencils, obvs).
But lots of ginger beer.
England voted out, as did most of Wales, but Scotland and Northern Ireland were solid inners.
The old voted out; the working classes voted out. A young man interviewed on BBC said “Pensioners shouldn’t be allowed to vote” – but few young voters bothered to use their vote…
Will Europe now offer ‘Brexit 2’ à la Lisbon 2 and Nice 2?
Well they’ve already said there’s no renegotiation available but why would they say otherwise before a vote? But what the UK voters want is incompatible with the EU.
Precisely.
well well well….. the next few months are going to be v interesting, I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr. Johnson is sh*tting himself now. I’d say he was hoping he wouldn’t actually win but would have the string in his bow that he tried to push for change.. It will be interesting to see how all this plays out now.
The Paddies are now the only English speakers in the EU ..
Odds on we’re joined by the Scots.
NI voted remain and it looks from a glance like that was the Catholic areas. Have the demographics been pulled out there yet?
Anything to be said for an independent Northern Ireland that remains in the EU?
with a few billion from the UK propping up NI, no, I don’t think so.
If the UK can continue to afford a few billion, that is.
But that’ll take years Nigie
They’ll have to apply for membership from scratch
And they have to get their own Independence vote over the line before anything anyway
I’d say they’ll move that along smartly enough.
Imagine Ireland united by Farage.
That’s gas, but after this are off. I’m expecting snow shortly or something equally fun.
*All bets are off.
Well not till the price of oil picks up Nigel. The thing was with “Project Fear” in the Scottish referendum, was the dodgy bookwork of the Scots Nats.
Exuberance almost carried it, which would have been unfortunate at $55 a barrel, or whatever it is now.
I also suspect shutting down the Trident bases on the Clyde would have put them into Uncle Sam’s “Cuba League”.
I’ll bet the Scots are only delighted to find themselves in this wonderful position. And the Northern Irish. And approximately half the people of Britain.
Its called democracy Nigel. A plebiscite. Would you like me to explain to you how it works.
Explain to me instead why that means the Scots the Northern Irish and nearly half the voters of Britain – maybe more than half now the abstainers have woken up to the markets – are, in fact, delighted. Which is what I said. Explain to me how the UK will prosper under the guidance of Johnson and Farage, while you’re at it. Then explain it to them because they clearly haven’t a clue.
https://youtu.be/HZCaSyid4m0
Scotland’s future is being decided by provincial English folk over the age of 50. There’ll be more democracy soon with another border poll. It’ll be funny watching English nationalists who were talking about self determination telling the Scots about the importance of unity.
I’m all in agreement with you today Moyest
A bit to much explaining there Nigey. For a Broadshhet post anyway.
Let me summarise.
You’re coming from the position that the EU is all this and a bag of chips, just imagine what your position would be if you found out it was an unaccountable, unelected corrupt, totalitarian organisation, that was busy redistributing wealth to the elite at the expense of the proletariat. Or do you have to be a racist for that sort of a leap of the imagination – as you were implying a couple of days ago.
“that was busy redistributing wealth to the elite at the expense of the proletariat”
Right, except leave voters think Polish working class people are to blame.
Forget it Moyest. You just aren’t Nigel at the end of the day.
Hah, don’t resort to telling me where I’m coming from just because where I’m actually coming from doesn’t suit you. Your understanding of that is about as accurate as your understanding of, what was the word you used? Bigotry? You Humpty Dumpty, you. Mind you, my original point still stands, about all the less than delighted UKers, and my added point about how awesome the future looks in the steady guiding hands of Johnson and Farage! But sure, pretend that this will be a clean break with no mess and that those who brought this about have a clear plan to deal with all the effects it’s going to have on people! They were so careful about outlining them during the campaign!
“Forget it Moyest. You just aren’t Nigel at the end of the day.”
OK then. That’s….weird. Anyway, you are ignoring the fact that people who voted leave did so because they blame immigrants for their lot as opposed to neoliberalism.
The brits always had our back in the EU, a big loss to us
+1
hardly anyone talking about this aspect atall…we’ve just lost one of the engines here…maybe both of them
Great point.
Boris and Donald.
What a wonderful day…
The future is in their hands!
Bet yere all sorry ye didn’t vote for Pearse n’Mary Lou & Co now
I’m sorry we didn’t vote for Bosco and Fortycoats.
Well that’s who you got
I thought we got Sneaky Snake and the Whirligig Witch.
Them too
Lol, go Frilly!!!!
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2016/06/23/whatever-happens-tomorrow-europe-will-never-be-quite-the-same-again
Why did I imagine one of the Apres Match lads saying this, as I read it –
I like to look at Ireland’s relationship with the EU and the UK as a jockey riding two horses. Ireland is the jockey and the two horses are the UK and the EU. When the two horses are broadly moving in tandem, the jockey’s position is tolerable. But when the horses start moving off in opposite directions (as they are now), the jockey’s position becomes extremely uncomfortable.
Actually, this is the best bit –
Ireland is now caught by the contradictions of our European aspirations and our economic Anglo-American realities. We have to play a clever game, involving non-committal diplomacy, rather than picking unilateral sides. Our model should be the city-state of the medieval world – like Venice or Dubrovnik – playing sides off each other to our advantage, rather than committing ourselves to one side or another.
This is now time for soft power rather than hard decisions.
I see they’re already making it clear that 350 million per week is definitely not going to the NHS. Poor, deluded people.
There’s a live feed on the telepgraph if anyone is interested –
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-results-live-brexit-wins-as-britain-votes-to-leave/
Now the euro elites will know fear
Blushirts must be quaking in their boots dav, wha’?
their lack of a statement speaks volumes
Absolutely. Not a peep. They’re certainly not staying sshtum to add to Cameron’s pain (which the old brigade would do happily from the side view of the gallows).
well that’s out of respect for their fellow Thatcherite Torty
They’ve a cabinet meeting at 10, statement to come afterwards.
Would hope for a fairly comprehensive statement given this
I believe they call it damage limitation. Or something like that.
spinnnnnnnnnn!
All the “Euro Elites” have to do is sit back and watch Britain tear itself apart. Then they turn to the rest of Europe and say, “See? We told you so.”
Can we finally stop with the euro elites/unelected overlords stuff that we have been unlucky enough to import from the UK tabloids? Now that we can see where their determined stupidity, celebrating of ignorance and endorsement of lazy lashing out rather than understanding issues goes, can’t we just drop it?
I’d really love that. “paymasters” is another one
+1
If ‘migration’ was at the centre of the Brexit vote, as it seems, it puts both England and Europe in a fairly nasty light.
Many Irish people regard the Famine as genocide, when what happened was essentially “Quick, look the other way, boys, don’t look at the starving people and they’ll go away”.
Are Europe and Britain not doing the same – are we not doing the same – in relation to the flood of terrified refugees streaming out of Syria, Afghanistan and North Africa?
There is now a €uro Axis
And we’re in it
I don’t fancy our chances
THREE! almost entirely coherent sentences from Frilly Keane. Print them out and frame for posterity.
FTSE closed today higher than it was 8 days ago, it’s suffered a similar drops like this morning several times this year, each time bouncing back up. Calling 52% of the uk electorate racists and uneducated is as stupid as it is petulant.
The EU is a political union that should never have happened, it is a bloated monolith ruled by bureaucrats and civil servants, can anyone truly, deep down, believe that such a fundamentally corrupt institution can ever be “reformed from the inside”? It should never have been allowed more power than organizing free trade and the movement of people. I’m envious of Britain, throughout our history we have sought self determination, and yet on the birth of our nation we were handed over to the catholic church, and when their influence began to wane, we sought Brussels to take our burden away, their contempt for us evident after 2 referendums were shoved back in our faces, luckily for the British, they’re made of sterner stuff.
But yeah, old people and racists, that’s all this was about.
+1 Well said!
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/conned-a-german-view-of-ireland-1.1454115