I nearly crashed the car tonight when I heard Lynn Boylan MEP demand justice for the dead British soldiers and Iraqi civilians and that Blair must stand trial!
Sheik Yahbouti
Did you, dearie? So glad you’re safe.
Harry Molloy
It’s reached the stage where they’re completely ignoring their recent history
They see themselves as moral police now or some crap, yet last year Mary Lou and Pearse stood up and denied, screaming at cameras ‘how dare’ anyone accuse them of running kangaroo cou7rts resulting in the expulsion of paedos and rapists….. a lot more quiet and sheepish was Mary Lou in her apology… when they got found out.
Scum. Plain and simple.
Roger McGrath
I don’t think Tony Blair will be buying the papers in the morning.
Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb may well yet stand trial for war crimes. But I admire the british stance , no cover up, and holding those responsible to account. It sure doesnt happen here, for sure.
classter
You don’t understand anything.
topsy
Blair is a war criminal.
martco
Tony Blair is a classic hits psychopath
Sheik Yahbouti
Agreed.
Frida
+ 1
Frilly Keane
‘Effin David Hall again
His response to everything is
“Government Inaction”
FFS
You’d swear he was qualified experienced in like say
Management Consulting
Corporate Enforcement
Governance
Forensic Accounting
Tax Consulting
Actuarial Science
Financial Accounting
Financial Advisor
S.C
Insolvency
Is he ûck
So what’s he upta?
martco
dickying up the ould linkedin profile methinks
Formerly known as @ireland.com
Tony Blair should stand trial. What an arrogant scumbag. It is no wonder the Labour party in the UK is in turmoil.
How can he defend the indefensible? I heard Alastair Campbell on Australian radio. He thinks his Iraqi war didn’t contribute to the rise of ISIS.
To so casually send so many people to their deaths, to destroy the relative harmony of the Iraqi community, to have no plan for post-war, is criminal.
For Blair to say he would do the same again, shows that he is not capable of forming an informed decision. I hope he gets justice.
Sam
He knows damned well what he did. He’s not delusional, he is a lawyer. He also knows his best chance is to stick to his denials, and spin, spin spin, cos he knows there are people out there soft enough to believe his mullarkey when he says “you may not agree, of course, that’s your choice” (how generous of him) “but I made the decision in good faith”. So long as he doesn’t admit to lying, he’s already prepared to ride out the storm and be thought of as ‘flawed’ rather than criminal.
Sido
@ Formerly – We are told that Tony Blair cannot stand trial for war crimes. Because he ordered the operation and did not physically commit any war crimes. Soldiers on the other hand who committed war crimes in the hell that was Basra, can face trial.
This strikes me as odd.
For didn’t Slobadan Milosivic the Serbian premier, get sent to the Hague, charged with war crimes, which he had directed, in the same manner as Blair. Though clearly Slobadan was a politician and not a soldier.
Any lawyers out there care to explain the distinction? Guilt or lack thereof, seems to depend on who your m8s are – just sayin.
Deluded
I’m not a law-talking guy but apparently Milosevic was tried in a court set-up to deal with Yugoslavia/Balkan conflict and not in the International Criminal Court.
It’s early so I haven’t googled the history of the courts or the distinction.
As a by-the-by, all of the ICC indictments to date have been against Africans. It’s good to see someone taking the lead on rooting out this sort of thing.
Waddy Dilson
Now lets you and I go toe to toe on bird law…..
Deluded
I definitely think this is one for a lawblog…
Sido
@ Deluded – Oh right – So it was a Yugoslavia/Balkan conflict court set up in the Hague.
That explains it ;-/
Deluded
Yes, I’m awake now… seems the ICC was derived from the ICTY and ICTR (Criminal tribunals for Yugolslavia and Rwanda respectively) with some legal and procedural distinctions.
Can you see them pursuing Blair and Shrub?
Shayna
My cousin, Seán O’Neill, got the Chief Reporter by line in “The Times” on the Chilcott Inquiry, I couldn’t be more proud, or excited for him getting a front page by line in “The Times” for such an important story.
classter
They’ve dropped the fada
Kerri Ann
That opening sentence alone is worth framing.
rory
The Independent (UK) had the most effective cover for me.
“Spinning on their graves.”
Sido
Didn’t know Tony played cricket.
Deluded
A succint headline, rory, grimly apt.
Thank you for the twitter links yesterday.
rory
You’re welcome.
Sido
I noticed Dave standing tall behind Tony yesterday – good chap, we can’t know the strain British PM’s are up against.
Or could it be that Dave is worried that someone will question the major role he played in turning Libya from a secular dictatorship with health and education services and a “reasonable” life style for the majority of citizens into a murderous hell with sunshine.
Disasta
The western world isn’t about justice or honour, it’s about winning.
The end justifies the means. Just don’t get caught.
Sido
That seems to go for quite a lot of the world not just the Western bits – as a casual observation.
Disasta
True.
Greed and power. And of course wealth.
classter
This.
Iraq was completely wrong but no more wrong than many other campaigns the British have been involved with over the past few decades.
It is all fine & well to call Blair a war criminal but by that token many other western leaders are or have been war criminals.
The benefit of all this is that it will make European leaders more careful about committing troops
dav
no mention of inda’s leading ff back to the top of the poll, eh? keep the recovery going
Waddy Dilson
I’ll have to eat my hat regarding that whole cow debacle!!
Frida
The army shooting cattle in Monaghan, what the hell is that about? Could they not just move them to a field with good fencing.
Twunt
If I recall correctly, the Sun newspaper called Charles Kennedy a ‘Spineless Reptile’ for going against Blair. The same paper backed Blair all the way. They really are beneath contempt.
I nearly crashed the car tonight when I heard Lynn Boylan MEP demand justice for the dead British soldiers and Iraqi civilians and that Blair must stand trial!
Did you, dearie? So glad you’re safe.
It’s reached the stage where they’re completely ignoring their recent history
They see themselves as moral police now or some crap, yet last year Mary Lou and Pearse stood up and denied, screaming at cameras ‘how dare’ anyone accuse them of running kangaroo cou7rts resulting in the expulsion of paedos and rapists….. a lot more quiet and sheepish was Mary Lou in her apology… when they got found out.
Scum. Plain and simple.
I don’t think Tony Blair will be buying the papers in the morning.
Not for the memories no?
Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb may well yet stand trial for war crimes. But I admire the british stance , no cover up, and holding those responsible to account. It sure doesnt happen here, for sure.
You don’t understand anything.
Blair is a war criminal.
Tony Blair is a classic hits psychopath
Agreed.
+ 1
‘Effin David Hall again
His response to everything is
“Government Inaction”
FFS
You’d swear he was qualified experienced in like say
Management Consulting
Corporate Enforcement
Governance
Forensic Accounting
Tax Consulting
Actuarial Science
Financial Accounting
Financial Advisor
S.C
Insolvency
Is he ûck
So what’s he upta?
dickying up the ould linkedin profile methinks
Tony Blair should stand trial. What an arrogant scumbag. It is no wonder the Labour party in the UK is in turmoil.
How can he defend the indefensible? I heard Alastair Campbell on Australian radio. He thinks his Iraqi war didn’t contribute to the rise of ISIS.
To so casually send so many people to their deaths, to destroy the relative harmony of the Iraqi community, to have no plan for post-war, is criminal.
For Blair to say he would do the same again, shows that he is not capable of forming an informed decision. I hope he gets justice.
He knows damned well what he did. He’s not delusional, he is a lawyer. He also knows his best chance is to stick to his denials, and spin, spin spin, cos he knows there are people out there soft enough to believe his mullarkey when he says “you may not agree, of course, that’s your choice” (how generous of him) “but I made the decision in good faith”. So long as he doesn’t admit to lying, he’s already prepared to ride out the storm and be thought of as ‘flawed’ rather than criminal.
@ Formerly – We are told that Tony Blair cannot stand trial for war crimes. Because he ordered the operation and did not physically commit any war crimes. Soldiers on the other hand who committed war crimes in the hell that was Basra, can face trial.
This strikes me as odd.
For didn’t Slobadan Milosivic the Serbian premier, get sent to the Hague, charged with war crimes, which he had directed, in the same manner as Blair. Though clearly Slobadan was a politician and not a soldier.
Any lawyers out there care to explain the distinction? Guilt or lack thereof, seems to depend on who your m8s are – just sayin.
I’m not a law-talking guy but apparently Milosevic was tried in a court set-up to deal with Yugoslavia/Balkan conflict and not in the International Criminal Court.
It’s early so I haven’t googled the history of the courts or the distinction.
As a by-the-by, all of the ICC indictments to date have been against Africans. It’s good to see someone taking the lead on rooting out this sort of thing.
Now lets you and I go toe to toe on bird law…..
I definitely think this is one for a lawblog…
@ Deluded – Oh right – So it was a Yugoslavia/Balkan conflict court set up in the Hague.
That explains it ;-/
Yes, I’m awake now… seems the ICC was derived from the ICTY and ICTR (Criminal tribunals for Yugolslavia and Rwanda respectively) with some legal and procedural distinctions.
Can you see them pursuing Blair and Shrub?
My cousin, Seán O’Neill, got the Chief Reporter by line in “The Times” on the Chilcott Inquiry, I couldn’t be more proud, or excited for him getting a front page by line in “The Times” for such an important story.
They’ve dropped the fada
That opening sentence alone is worth framing.
The Independent (UK) had the most effective cover for me.
“Spinning on their graves.”
Didn’t know Tony played cricket.
A succint headline, rory, grimly apt.
Thank you for the twitter links yesterday.
You’re welcome.
I noticed Dave standing tall behind Tony yesterday – good chap, we can’t know the strain British PM’s are up against.
Or could it be that Dave is worried that someone will question the major role he played in turning Libya from a secular dictatorship with health and education services and a “reasonable” life style for the majority of citizens into a murderous hell with sunshine.
The western world isn’t about justice or honour, it’s about winning.
The end justifies the means. Just don’t get caught.
That seems to go for quite a lot of the world not just the Western bits – as a casual observation.
True.
Greed and power. And of course wealth.
This.
Iraq was completely wrong but no more wrong than many other campaigns the British have been involved with over the past few decades.
It is all fine & well to call Blair a war criminal but by that token many other western leaders are or have been war criminals.
The benefit of all this is that it will make European leaders more careful about committing troops
no mention of inda’s leading ff back to the top of the poll, eh? keep the recovery going
I’ll have to eat my hat regarding that whole cow debacle!!
The army shooting cattle in Monaghan, what the hell is that about? Could they not just move them to a field with good fencing.
If I recall correctly, the Sun newspaper called Charles Kennedy a ‘Spineless Reptile’ for going against Blair. The same paper backed Blair all the way. They really are beneath contempt.