Clean air and nice scenery is pointless if you can’t enjoy it from your SUV.
topsy
I have no problem enjoying scenery and air from my large SUV.
Sullery
Pretty depressing that the environment is still more or less a side issue for nearly all parties. The supposed trade-off between a healthy environment and a healthy economy is completely false.
Andy
Well, given almost every decent sized housing development proposed in Ireland is subject to a raft of objections (from all the usual PBP/AAA’s etc but also from FG, FF, & independents) it would appear that most people either (i) are super fans of protecting the environment or (ii) don’t like new things or people..
That includes all the objections to Trump’s wall in the West which is actually required to protect the coast there. But you know, Trump is Trump so to hell with the coast just to spite him.
Same with objections to nearly all windmill projects, the Eirgrid pylon plan, the Poolbeg incinerator etc etc. They may not look nice, but from an environmental perspective they are better than (i) & (ii) having localised small inefficient carbon fueled power stations, (ii) exporting our rubbish or sticking it into the ground.
Zuppy International
Windpower is a load of hot air.
“Wind energy was abandoned well over a hundred years ago, as it was totally inconsistent with our burgeoning more modern needs of power, even in the late 1800s. When we throw the switch, we expect that the lights will go on — 100% of the time. It’s not possible for wind energy, by itself, to ever do this, which is one of the main reasons it was relegated to the dust bin of antiquated technologies (along with such other inadequate sources like horse power).”
Not really an either/or. For instance, protected cycle lanes provided a 400% rise in profit for Seattle shops.
De Kloot
In fairness that was also linked to the legalization of weed… ;)
sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq
@ De Kool T;
You should structure your sentences betterer.
I had visions of stoners crashing into each other on bicycles, outside shops that sold chocolate and crisps.
You should’ve said: It could ALSO be linked to…etc.
PS.
Yes I am.
sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq
Hang on a minute…
That previous comment was supposed to be for Do LoTek
Alfonso
Labour party the only party that has significantly shifted against the trend…
DubLoony
Yet it was Labour’s Alan Kelly who signed Ireland into COP21 agreement.
…it is a sad irony that one of the most damaging blows to the environmental cause in Ireland has been dealt by those who set themselves up as its custodian. The hapless greens held the balance of power yet did nothing…in fairness though, they did prop up the government that screwed economic growth…
Mourinho
Not to forget legislating the sex life of dogs.
sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq
In fairness though, when your dog is having a better sex-life than you since he was two years old, and you’RE finally in a position to do something about it, YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
brownbull
does the scoring matrix taking account of how much a politicla party’s funding originates in illicit diesel laundering?
sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq
Seriously, I don’t understand the graph above.
To do so would necessitate a modicum of effort.
I was wondering…
…is it worth it?
sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq
I’d like to have a nice day.
What doesn’t actually hit me won’t hurt me.
Let’s leave it at that, okay?
sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq
/sarcasm
sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq
/endofthread
I don’t understand why you lot are so scared of me.
We could have fun together.
Think of me as your MAD uncle, the one with lots of children he never met.
(The ‘uncle’ you never met, so to speak.)
– Don’t be afraid of me. I could be your Dad.
Your Ma loves me, but I’ve been down that channel before.
It was not fruiticious.
I’m lactose-intolerant meself, but yer Ma…
DubLoony
Would like to know how they came to those conclusions.
sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq
@ DubLoony
That’s EXACTLY what I was asking.
I just do it more subversibly, and ridicule them in the process.
AND have a laugh..
You know yourself.
JIMMYJAMES
you lost me at ‘Strongly Supoorts’
Mé Féin
Two things:
1. Sez who?
2. The people who most support environmentalism, and were actually in government to do so, opted not to. (The stupid Greens)
Clean air and nice scenery is pointless if you can’t enjoy it from your SUV.
I have no problem enjoying scenery and air from my large SUV.
Pretty depressing that the environment is still more or less a side issue for nearly all parties. The supposed trade-off between a healthy environment and a healthy economy is completely false.
Well, given almost every decent sized housing development proposed in Ireland is subject to a raft of objections (from all the usual PBP/AAA’s etc but also from FG, FF, & independents) it would appear that most people either (i) are super fans of protecting the environment or (ii) don’t like new things or people..
That includes all the objections to Trump’s wall in the West which is actually required to protect the coast there. But you know, Trump is Trump so to hell with the coast just to spite him.
Same with objections to nearly all windmill projects, the Eirgrid pylon plan, the Poolbeg incinerator etc etc. They may not look nice, but from an environmental perspective they are better than (i) & (ii) having localised small inefficient carbon fueled power stations, (ii) exporting our rubbish or sticking it into the ground.
Windpower is a load of hot air.
“Wind energy was abandoned well over a hundred years ago, as it was totally inconsistent with our burgeoning more modern needs of power, even in the late 1800s. When we throw the switch, we expect that the lights will go on — 100% of the time. It’s not possible for wind energy, by itself, to ever do this, which is one of the main reasons it was relegated to the dust bin of antiquated technologies (along with such other inadequate sources like horse power).”
https://www.masterresource.org/wind-power/15-bad-things-windpower/
Not really an either/or. For instance, protected cycle lanes provided a 400% rise in profit for Seattle shops.
In fairness that was also linked to the legalization of weed… ;)
@ De Kool T;
You should structure your sentences betterer.
I had visions of stoners crashing into each other on bicycles, outside shops that sold chocolate and crisps.
You should’ve said:
It could ALSO be linked to…etc.
PS.
Yes I am.
Hang on a minute…
That previous comment was supposed to be for Do LoTek
Labour party the only party that has significantly shifted against the trend…
Yet it was Labour’s Alan Kelly who signed Ireland into COP21 agreement.
http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/alan-kelly-climate-change-2729669-Apr2016/
Another scam.
Depressing, distressing, unsurprising.
…it is a sad irony that one of the most damaging blows to the environmental cause in Ireland has been dealt by those who set themselves up as its custodian. The hapless greens held the balance of power yet did nothing…in fairness though, they did prop up the government that screwed economic growth…
Not to forget legislating the sex life of dogs.
In fairness though, when your dog is having a better sex-life than you since he was two years old, and you’RE finally in a position to do something about it, YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
does the scoring matrix taking account of how much a politicla party’s funding originates in illicit diesel laundering?
Seriously, I don’t understand the graph above.
To do so would necessitate a modicum of effort.
I was wondering…
…is it worth it?
I’d like to have a nice day.
What doesn’t actually hit me won’t hurt me.
Let’s leave it at that, okay?
/sarcasm
/endofthread
I don’t understand why you lot are so scared of me.
We could have fun together.
Think of me as your MAD uncle, the one with lots of children he never met.
(The ‘uncle’ you never met, so to speak.)
– Don’t be afraid of me. I could be your Dad.
Your Ma loves me, but I’ve been down that channel before.
It was not fruiticious.
I’m lactose-intolerant meself, but yer Ma…
Would like to know how they came to those conclusions.
@ DubLoony
That’s EXACTLY what I was asking.
I just do it more subversibly, and ridicule them in the process.
AND have a laugh..
You know yourself.
you lost me at ‘Strongly Supoorts’
Two things:
1. Sez who?
2. The people who most support environmentalism, and were actually in government to do so, opted not to. (The stupid Greens)