30 thoughts on “Early Christmas Present

    1. Sheik Yahbouti

      PS greatly obliged to emah for this dose of reality, particularly to those who are supporters of FF. High crimes and Treason, anyone?

    2. Steve

      Looks like debt collection for non domestic customers – businesses, who have (or should have been) paying charges for years.

      The option for extension to domestic is stupid

  1. Sheik Yahbouti

    Who is insane enough to suppose the charges were ever off the agenda? I will labour the point YET AGAIN. Fianna Fail instituted this blag against the Citizens of Ireland; Fine Gael more than, enthusiastically tried to bring it to fruition. The contracts which will allow private companies to gouge this population were signed and sealed long ago. We are being lied to, lied to, lied to – to our faces. I recommend that we use the Garda strike intelligently and trap the b*stards in Leinster House until we get answers. The only mid week protest was met with 700 Gardai, to include dog handlers – all to ensure that our ‘Representatives ‘ wouldn’t have to see us or even hear us. Beyond disgraceful, and we continue to let them get away with this?

    1. Sheik Yahbouti

      So all I have to look forward to in the Autumn of my years is an appearance in the District Court? This is what my Government offers me, after a blameless life, and endless tax paying? What a shower of boo-boos.

      1. Sheik Yahbouti

        I would like to inform other posters that I never said ” What a shower of boo boos ” the moderation here makes one sound like a stroppy toddler! boo boos and poo poos?!? Ah heor.

      2. Rob_G

        “So all I have to look forward to in the Autumn of my years is an appearance in the District Court?”

        – no, just pay your bills and you should be fine.

      3. Richard

        Well Sheik, you should stand on your principles and have Irish Water disconnect your house.

        The Government offers you (mostly) clean, drinkable water into a pipe in your kitchen, and also offers you water for bathing and other cleaning piped to any place you would like around your home.

        The water system in Ireland has been in dire straits for years and needs a massive infusion of cash just to keep it functional. Even if I were to buy the “I have already paid for water” argument (which I don’t), whatever you have paid for it in the past is used up, it is gone, and it was never really enough to pay for an adequate water service in the first place.

        Engineers Ireland warned during the summer that the average age of a water main in Ireland is 75 years of age, and nearly half of all treated water is lost through leakage. In addition, there are still many places in Ireland where untreated sewage is being discharged, including many of which discharge into rivers and lakes. This ignores the many, many other places where sewage treatment pre-discharge is below EU standards.

        The lack of maturity in the debate on water system has not been helped by the mis-management of the establishment of Irish Water, but that doesn’t take away from the facts around water in Ireland.

        Ireland is one of the few places in the world where most of the potable water is from surface water, so it has been relatively easy to deal with compared with many countries. However, it is one thing to pipe lake water to somebodies home, and pipe their sewage back to the lake, it is quite another to have a modern and efficient water system.

        The fact that 50% of treated water is lost through leakage is an argument for water charges not against them. The billions needed to maintain our water system up to now has not been provided by central government, why do people think that any future government is going to buck this trend and pump (excuse the pun) billions into the water system. If there are billions available it is going to Health, Education and Housing. Things that politicians can be seen opening.

        The only way that the country is going to have a viable and modern water supply is if it is hived off in some way from both Central and Local Government. It absolutely does not have to be put into private hands, but by treating it in a manner similar to Eirgrid or Bord na Mona, it will have the ability to raise money without it being considered part of Government spending. This will allow more money for Health, Education, Housing and water.

    1. Sheik Yahbouti

      Still don’t understand, Dude. You aren’t suggesting that this has some connection, however tenuous, with Papa Dob? How very dare you.

    1. Sheik Yahbouti

      Is that so? Explain please why Debt Collection Agencies are being recruited – in the here and now – not in the abstract . Instruct us please on how this is all perfectly fine.

  2. munkifisht

    Water should be metered and charged for. It’s not an infinite resource, it has to be paid for somehow and if you use less, you should pay less. Irish Water was a farce though.

    1. Sheik Yahbouti

      you really haven’t grasped the essentials of the problem, have you dear friend? This fight is not against water charges per se – it never has been. It is a fight against Centrica, Veolia, Nestle and the host of other private companies who want to commandeer our ample water supply – yet charge us as if we lived in the Atacama. Try informing yourself and actually thinking about what is at stake.

      1. some old queen

        ‘The EU is making us do it’ sounds more than a little split personality when they are quite prepared to go into legal battle with the EU over Apple’s taxes?

  3. Feidlim MacSásta

    The issue isn’t charging an affordable fee for water usage.

    The issue is the possible privatisation of the service which would put our water services in the hands of profiteers and most likely following several large bribes being paid to politicians to do so.

    Water does not need to be privatised but could be charged fairly as a state service outside of taxation.

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