But hey, I guess Bodger thinks we should just be grateful that a woman with a private email server didn’t get elected while we get our stitches in hospital.
Kieran NYC
Would love if Bodger/John had the balls to publish everyone’s multiple usernames
Kieran NYC
Not going to let you and your Trumpian friends’ fascist bullying slide.
Sorry ’bout it
jusayinlike
Your kinda walking down a cul de sac there Kieran, whether you like it or not your answering to the Trump for the next four years, best advice get used to it..
jusayinlike
Bit of a jump there petey
Brother Barnabas
You call the guy “KFC” and then admonish him for “name calling”
I can see where Trump gets his support. No shortage of stupid p****s around.
SOQ
+1 Kieran. Lets see who these bullying clowns really are.
jusayinlike
The only bully around this site is you SOQ, you have badgered and threatened the staff and other posters relentlessly over the last 2 days
bisted
…and SOQ promised everyone bubbly…what happened the bubbly?
Social Democrats looking for a new Communications Director already. Current fella hasn’t been there a wet week. What happened, difficulty working with Anne Marie?
Do you think I made it up?!! They are advertising for a Communications Director although they just announced the appointment of one a few short months ago. That’s the extent of my info.
I am impressed by Trump already. He was convinced to keep parts of the health care program by Obama. It takes a very none political person to be willing to change his mind by rational.
Either that or he is a complete airhead who is winging it. Time will tell.
sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq
Give him time…
I sincerely hope he isn’t assassinated (by a disgruntled ex-supporter, obviously) before he gets a chance to humiliate himself properly.
Just wait. It won’t take four years. Might not even be four weeks if he stays true to form.
Fatman Scoop
Boom!
veritas
please wait until pence is neutralised in some way. A more disgusting toerag would be hard to imagine. In my opinion he would be even more repulsive than trump if anyone could be. A religious bigot who would give isis a run for its money in depravity.
Nobody knows what’s ahead
The backtrack on Obsms care is a promising start tho
SOQ
It is a unusual to say the least. He said he was convinced by Obama on parts of the health policy and had better thing to be doing than going after Hillary. And he appears to be rowing back on the other things too.
I’m not sure he knows what he’s unleashed. Those people running around with confederate flags and painting swastikas on walls aren’t going to be happy with being tricked.
SOQ
He was supposed to be the antidote of professional politicians saying anything to get elected and here he is, not even in the office, dismissing core promises as campaign rhetoric.
The idea of Trump supporters going against Trump is funny but not impossible. Stranger things have happened. But in the mean time, he has let the dogs out and a lot of people are very afraid.
Dόn Pídgéόní
Either they’ll go against him, in which case danger danger for trump, or they’ll go for an ‘enemy’. Given that trump wants to keep doing his rallies (such an ego but not at all fascist that, no no) , I imagine the second which means some very nasty times ahead.
The surprise at Trumps victory should be a lesson to the progressive liberals that opposed him. The polls had indicated for weeks that it was too close to call, but the beltway bubble of leftwing media and their sycophants were so blinded by their own bias that they missed it. Spectacularly.
So all SJW’s got their butts handed to them on a plate of reality. Tweeting, liking and virtue signalling don’t work. They make the campaigner feel good but do nothing for the cause. Their sermonising and waffle about social justice cut no ice whatsoever as people saw through the emptiness, and have unleashed the biggest backlash from those the warriors judged with every phobia and ism in the book. Hard luck guys. You were warned a thousand times, but your blind ideology of moral superiority and narcissism blinded you.
If those who care actually want to make a difference, other than to their own reputation, they need a reworking of their methods and to roll their sleeves up past their twittering fingers. They need to forget their hateful, ineffective lexicon of SJW terminology that judge people with opposing views, castigate them, other them and isolate them. They need to check their middle class privilege and speak to people with respect and understanding of their views, not just their own cohort of converted compassionistas. They need to make their case persuasively rather than jumping to persecution and condemnation.
Eastern Europe, Brexit, Philippines, China, Turkey, Russia and now Trump. This is a reaction to how the neo liberal, progressive elite have hoovered resources to themselves and shrouded their actions in an empty, facile shroud of diversity, equality and inclusion, when it was anything but.
Nigel
Why can’t SJWs just respect racism and misogyny and xenophobia, for God’s sake? Acting like these are bad things is just pure virtue signaling.
Apropos of nothing ‘virtue signalling’ sounds like a phrase coined by sociopaths to cathegorise behaviour they can’t quite comprehend.
Kieran NYC
+1
KKK victory marches planned for the start of December, btw.
petey
get the klan all together in one place and, y’know, water the tree of liberty
Drebbin
Sometimes you don’t need a time-machine to kill Hitler.
SOQ
I was talking to someone a few days ago who has a sister living in Carolina. She said it hasn’t been this bad since 9/11. Even the Irish are getting it.
Nigel
It’s like a boil has been popped.
Tony
The name calling and the silencing is working well for you guys. Youve even woken the kkk. Good job guys.
jusayinlike
At this stage debating the ballot result is pretty much pointless
Nigel
Apparently the one demographic you can’t blame Trump for is the one that voted for him. Enabling them and infantilising them is sure to work out brilliantly!
Dόn Pídgéόní
The notion that white working class people are somehow OK with racism etc is one of the stupidest hottakes despite the fact they voted dem. Also never ever any mention of POC who are working class (overwhelming Dem). Which suggests it’s race isn’t it? I’m not going to pander to people by not calling out -isms in case they get upset. They should be upset because these views have consequences for real life people. It’s not some airy chat you’re having in the pub anymore.
The rest of your point has merit but comes from both sides. Maybe it’s Twitter or Facebook or whatever but there is no political discourse with nuance – calling someone’s statements racist is immediately flipped into they are racist even when care is taken with the wording. The media do this for clicks but also give voice to these views without question. It’s no surprise that kids in the us are changing build a wall at non- white students, they pick that up from somewhere.
rotide
I don’t think I’ve ever agreed with you move Don. Well said.
Dόn Pídgéόní
Even a stopped clock etc…. :)
I’ve been doing a lot of reading and thinking about this. I know I’ve been super upset and a pretty ranty and could do with taking my own advice. We all need to be better basically.
Rob_G
Very eloquently-put, Don.
ONigel
Oh and ‘shut up with the name calling and silencing and scolding SJWs!’ he scolded. Do you think about anything you say or are the double standards all part of the fun for you?
SOQ
@ Tony
I think someone should draw up a bullpoo bingo card of all the terms used by Trump supporters but I don’t expect it would be much of a game because you lot parrot the same one dimensional clichés so regularly it wouldn’t take very long to check.
What in God’s name is the ‘neo liberal, progressive elite’? In case you don’t know, Trump has some heavy duty Jewish connections and Netanyahu is a personal friend. His own daughter has converted to Judaism ffs.
Hardly an outside now is he?
Faecal Matters
Exactly, He’s a liberal centrist who campaigned on policies such as increasing paid leave for working women, the bast%rd
Faecal Matters
You’re not the brightest penny in the purse are you there Ron Burgundy?
Liberal snowflakes wanted Bernie Sanders to win and are now in the ascendancy in the DNC.
Most analyses with any credibility show that 100,000 or so votes in 3 mid west states decimated by globalisation were the deciding factor in the election rather than any of your guff about social issues. Besides Trump is a centrist liberal, that’s why Never Trumpers formed in butthole states like Utah, because Trump quote “wasn’t conservative enough”.
But never mind, in your fervent desire to slobber any old gloop on people with whom you disagree on social issues, and to swallow any oul festering red meat you can get your teeth into, we can see your true colours.
I watched the Late Late Show. Colette Browne came across as uptight and judgmental.
Faecal Matters
” I watched the Late Late Show”
Shouldn’t you be puking into a latté?
jusayinlike
Hopkins unfortunately made mince meat of both tubs and Collette Brown
Praetorian
Really…? I hate the Late Late but curiosity tuned me in…i thought Hopkins was a bold,petulant child of no relevance…i actually thought O’Brian summed her up perfectly….a preformer…a circus monkey.
EightersGonnaEight
Yes. REALLY.
anne
yeah..it were those ready made cards what done it for me. minced meated um.
Praetorian
…..that,and her goading of a few college boys in the audience…wretched woman.
jusayinlike
She may be very course but she still managed to make Tubs and Collette come across as absolute grannies it was almost cringe worthy, Tubs’ replies were so one dimensional it was difficult to tell who was presenting
Faecal Matters
Of coarse.
Dόn Pídgéόní
She came across like the snowflakes she gives out about – oh they’re threatening free speech – she says, while on national TV. Straight from the alt-right right playbook.
Faecal Matters
You live in the UK and you’re watching the Late Late? Are your meds not working?
Dόn Pídgéόní
Is that you captain? Lovely day isn’t it? Think I’ll go for a walk in the park later.
SOQ
Careful now, Tis a full super moon tonight. Once only in seventy years. It’s very close.
May explain why I went off on one last night. :-(
Dόn Pídgéόní
You’re upset, I get it. Deep breaths, we’ll get there x
jusayinlike
Get where? what’s the end game with this campaign you and SOQ are waging? How do you plan on changing the course of the administration over the next 4 years?
Dόn Pídgéόní
Jesus…
I know it’s all too easy to snark but I’m very afraid. I’d like to get to a point where i know my us family and friends are safe and that I am going to be safe where I live given the rise of the far right across the world. This isn’t just an American thing here.
jusayinlike
Eh Boris Johnson Don, he’s oddly racist, very far right and presents a lot more for you to worry about, however all you seem to be concerned with is Donald Trump
Faecal Matters
Captain who? Why are you watching the Late Late? Is our TV really THAT good?
SOQ
@ jusayinlike
Yes the election is over but the game hasn’t even started yet and as for this mantra I keep hearing of ‘just accept it’. What is ‘it’ exactly?
A businessman with a reputation for changing his mind depending on which way the wind is blowing. A campaign which was presented (at least to us) with far right if not fascist policies, which he is already rowing back from at lightening speed. The swastika sprayed all over the US and yet, he himself connected to the Israeli government with Jewish people in his own family.
It just doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t add up. Feel free to enlighten me as you feel you understand what ‘it’ is.
jusayinlike
SOQ, Chelsea Clintons husband is jewish is there a conspiracy there too?
Dόn Pídgéόní
Boris Johnson does what’s best for Boris Johnson, he’s an idiot who enable the threat but he isn’t it.
Yes, because as I said, I have family and friends there. I’m also threatened by Tories, Brexit, austerity and stupid people playing at being edgy liberals but I don’t always talk about them on here.
jusayinlike
Boris Johnson is very much a problem for you, he’s a pro brexit far right racist who migrated into politics from tv, sound familiar???
So far himself and his stooge farage have turned the UK into a hot bed of serial mainstream racism, and all the while spooky Theresa May is threatening nuclear war in the middle east and urinating all over survivors of political and institutional paedophilia yet your more concerned with the circus sewer pit that is US politics and Donald fuppin trump
Dόn Pídgéόní
I’m not sure you know who Boris Johnson is
jusayinlike
Ignorance in the face of logic, nicely done Don
Dόn Pídgéόní
No, I genuinely think you are confused. Boris Johnson was a journalist, then an MP then the mayor of London. He didn’t come into anything from the TV, though he probably appeared on have I got news for you occasionally.
He also isn’t far right or involved with farage, he flipped on Brexit to seek out being pm not for anything else but his own greedy ambition and now finds himself in the no man’s land the FCO. Theresa may, while awful, is doing none of those things. None of his rhetoric has been as bad as what trump has said and he doesn’t surround himself with the people trump does. If anything, he is the epitome of met elite and happy to accept that.
Facts and logic indeed.
jusayinlike
Boris Johnson came out of broadcasting and tv, Boris Johnson labelled Obama a confused Kenyan, Boris Johnson campaigned staunchly for brexit, all your opinions are irrelevant, what I’ve stated is fact Don.
jusayinlike
Trump has no impact on your situation Don, the likes of Farage, May and Johnson are currently influencing policy that affects you directly yet your trying to tell me that Trump represents the greater evil would you like to explain?
rotide
What are you babbling about?
Boris Johnson did not ‘come out of TV’. He was a Journalist who became an MP and Mayor as Don said.
Just because you saw him on TV a few times doesn’t mean that’s where he made his name. Just because the conspiracy websites you read state something as fact doesn’t make it true.
jusayinlike
Your an editor for a mainstream rag who cares what you think, go back to regurgitating the ap news you glorified dictaphone
Dόn Pídgéόní
I have already explained
jusayinlike
You clarified my points Don than added your own opinions no apparent reason
jusayinlike
I’m sorry Nigel that’s not very coherent but im going to presume your sharing the same sentiment as the editor
Dόn Pídgéόní
You seem very angry at me and still very very confused about Boris.
jusayinlike
No Don im not angry, and you just admitted in an exchange further back that you went pretty ranty, and in not confused about Boris he’s both racist and far right, if anyone is confused it is you
Dόn Pídgéόní
Very angry. Blood coming from your wherever.
jusayinlike
“pretty ranty”
Starina
country outraged as woman shows emotion shock – why aren’t you more cold like hillar- oh wait
jusayinlike
More incoherence, and you actually have the neck to correct someone else’s grammar
Dόn Pídgéόní
Yes, which I explained. Not sure why that’s a bad thing but I’m going to leave you to it.
Woof
jusayinlike
You falsely called me angry when it’s you that is full of outrage
rotide
Your an editor for a mainstream rag who cares what you think, go back to regurgitating the ap news you glorified dictaphone
hahahaha, you’re a moron. Continue to revel in your own ignorance.
jusayinlike
Everyone knows exactly what you are editor, you wouldn’t know objective journalism if it smacked you in your slack gullible jaw
Deluded
hahahaha
and you thought we were bad, rotide
SOQ
@ jusayinlike
Clinton supporters are not the one’s who complained about the ‘liberal media being controlled by jews’ and who are running around spraying swastikas on walls?
jusayinlike
SOQ they are also rioting so not sure that’s the best way of vindicating your argument
SOQ
You just don’t get it do you?
Trump played the pied piper to every sort of far right low life pond scum in the US and now it turns out he is a fully paid up supporter of Israel. The biggest con job of our life time.
Unreal.
jusayinlike
No I do get it, your so full of outrage your trying to shove it down everyone’s throat
Anomanomanom
So snowflake is the buzz word now. Why all of a sudden is this word being thrown around by everyone.
Charlie Flanagan did not say we’re Trump’s friend. The Indo keeps making up headlines which put words in people’s mouths. I don’t know how they imagine this ok. They did the same with John Halligan a few weeks ago. No fan of Charlie Flanagan but it’d be great if he sued them for libel.
Bertie Blenkinsop
The ironic thing is, this is the busiest I’ve ever seen this place on a Sunday.
Bodger, take a bow.
Dόn Pídgéόní
Fair point, though how many ARE bodger??
*twilight zone noise*
jusayinlike
I’m not, but im starting to think that’s a label you like to apply to anyone on here who doesn’t act like your lapdog
Dόn Pídgéόní
Lol OK woof woof
jusayinlike
Boring Bodger baiting yawn
jusayinlike
oh no the far right is coming I’m afraid, you probably voted for them ffs
Dόn Pídgéόní
Sorry bodger
jusayinlike
Your like a parrot at this stage
Starina
jesus, newsjustin/justsayinlike – would you ever learn the difference between “your” and “you’re”?!
Ok, I was pretty ranty in that post and resorted to the cliches I was condemning in others. Apologies. Having spent the election here in the states and having spent a lot of time here in the last few years, the vote isn’t really a surprise, even though it is shocking. Th amount of disenfranchised people here of all races and demographics is astounding and Trump realised that. Upset in the manufacturing and energy states because of lack of jobs and declining industry, anger in the gentrified cities, hopelessness at the inequality they see, fear of the medical future they face etc… And all this under the rainbow of progressive liberalism which ground them down telling them what they should drive, how much water they should use, how they should educate their kids, what they should think read and say… It is condescending and very few people argue otherwise. But Hilary didnt see this, she just kept with the same trope of equality and inclusivity and more of the same economics. This just did not ring true. She and her party called Trump and his supporters neanderthal, which only inflamed the condescension and therefore the backlash. At the protest yesterday, there were about 6 conflicting chants and messages. The least one which gained traction was the cry-in on the embarcadero which almost caused a fight with other marchers saying how pathetic and self centred a response it was.
Its a mess, but to think that its due to racism and homophobia and mysogyny would be to totally underestimate the real world problems it represented. So the language of the left and the media which expressed it must be placed under total review if it is to be effective. Sanders did it better because he added grit.
Deluded
I was wondering, would Sanders have won?
Tony
Hilary and Sanders would have nailed it.
Deluded
That’s disappointing to hear.
Given Trump’s polarising statements I wondered was that why she needed Kaine, to reassure moderates that Red Dawn wasn’t happening.
Tony
The upper echelons of the Democratic party would never have allowed Sanders. They are too plugged in to the financial and political elite that Bernie railed against. Compromise beyond their own salvation.
Go lecture gay fellas who’ll be having their face stitched back again in or around a number of cities in the US tonight about how you feel that identity politics is passé.
jusayinlike
If your under moderation I’d imagine it’s due to the threats made to the moderators
Nigel
The only identity politics allowed is white identity, right?
MORE to folly
Pence is starting to wind up the anti-gay gears over here already.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-pence-assault-lgbtq-equality_us_58275a17e4b02d21bbc8ff9b
I’ve seen so many assaults, abuse, etc given free reign because Trump has empowered the WORST people imaginable.
http://www.newnownext.com/election-night-gay-bashing/11/2016/
But hey, I guess Bodger thinks we should just be grateful that a woman with a private email server didn’t get elected while we get our stitches in hospital.
Would love if Bodger/John had the balls to publish everyone’s multiple usernames
Not going to let you and your Trumpian friends’ fascist bullying slide.
Sorry ’bout it
Your kinda walking down a cul de sac there Kieran, whether you like it or not your answering to the Trump for the next four years, best advice get used to it..
Bit of a jump there petey
You call the guy “KFC” and then admonish him for “name calling”
I can see where Trump gets his support. No shortage of stupid p****s around.
+1 Kieran. Lets see who these bullying clowns really are.
The only bully around this site is you SOQ, you have badgered and threatened the staff and other posters relentlessly over the last 2 days
…and SOQ promised everyone bubbly…what happened the bubbly?
You threatened to come round to my door SOQ.
Who is acting like a bully again?
I know you said you were getting hot under the collar, but don’t go calling for your own lynching.
I didn’t take your threat that seriously….. we all blow our cool.
What I miss? Cliff notes, pretty please?
Awful stories. You take care over there kieran.
+ 1, look after yourself, pal
…don’t worry…I’m sure KieranWTF is well armed…
Keep you chin up Kieran !
+1
Thanks guys. Really appreciate it.
No choice but to Keep Buggering On! ;)
loo at it as an act of rebellion ;)
Social Democrats looking for a new Communications Director already. Current fella hasn’t been there a wet week. What happened, difficulty working with Anne Marie?
Is this real?
Do you think I made it up?!! They are advertising for a Communications Director although they just announced the appointment of one a few short months ago. That’s the extent of my info.
Ya what now… that real?
I am impressed by Trump already. He was convinced to keep parts of the health care program by Obama. It takes a very none political person to be willing to change his mind by rational.
Either that or he is a complete airhead who is winging it. Time will tell.
Give him time…
I sincerely hope he isn’t assassinated (by a disgruntled ex-supporter, obviously) before he gets a chance to humiliate himself properly.
Just wait. It won’t take four years. Might not even be four weeks if he stays true to form.
Boom!
please wait until pence is neutralised in some way. A more disgusting toerag would be hard to imagine. In my opinion he would be even more repulsive than trump if anyone could be. A religious bigot who would give isis a run for its money in depravity.
+278
Time will tell alright
Nobody knows what’s ahead
The backtrack on Obsms care is a promising start tho
It is a unusual to say the least. He said he was convinced by Obama on parts of the health policy and had better thing to be doing than going after Hillary. And he appears to be rowing back on the other things too.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-nine-times-betrayed-voters-us-election-2016-mexico-clinton-muslims-a7413341.html
I’m not sure he knows what he’s unleashed. Those people running around with confederate flags and painting swastikas on walls aren’t going to be happy with being tricked.
He was supposed to be the antidote of professional politicians saying anything to get elected and here he is, not even in the office, dismissing core promises as campaign rhetoric.
The idea of Trump supporters going against Trump is funny but not impossible. Stranger things have happened. But in the mean time, he has let the dogs out and a lot of people are very afraid.
Either they’ll go against him, in which case danger danger for trump, or they’ll go for an ‘enemy’. Given that trump wants to keep doing his rallies (such an ego but not at all fascist that, no no) , I imagine the second which means some very nasty times ahead.
I suspect he, Trump, has gone back to his roots
Business
He will make a business decision
Not a political one
So
We might all be backtracking
Trump might but I don’t pence etc will. Especially as trump will get bored and pence will effectively be president.
shudder. trump is a clown but pence is an evil b4st4rd.
…Trump could demonstrate a very un-American understanding of irony if he issued an executive order on day one for the closure of Guantanamo…
Anyone watch Veep?
Let’s hope Season 1 is close to real life
The surprise at Trumps victory should be a lesson to the progressive liberals that opposed him. The polls had indicated for weeks that it was too close to call, but the beltway bubble of leftwing media and their sycophants were so blinded by their own bias that they missed it. Spectacularly.
So all SJW’s got their butts handed to them on a plate of reality. Tweeting, liking and virtue signalling don’t work. They make the campaigner feel good but do nothing for the cause. Their sermonising and waffle about social justice cut no ice whatsoever as people saw through the emptiness, and have unleashed the biggest backlash from those the warriors judged with every phobia and ism in the book. Hard luck guys. You were warned a thousand times, but your blind ideology of moral superiority and narcissism blinded you.
If those who care actually want to make a difference, other than to their own reputation, they need a reworking of their methods and to roll their sleeves up past their twittering fingers. They need to forget their hateful, ineffective lexicon of SJW terminology that judge people with opposing views, castigate them, other them and isolate them. They need to check their middle class privilege and speak to people with respect and understanding of their views, not just their own cohort of converted compassionistas. They need to make their case persuasively rather than jumping to persecution and condemnation.
Eastern Europe, Brexit, Philippines, China, Turkey, Russia and now Trump. This is a reaction to how the neo liberal, progressive elite have hoovered resources to themselves and shrouded their actions in an empty, facile shroud of diversity, equality and inclusion, when it was anything but.
Why can’t SJWs just respect racism and misogyny and xenophobia, for God’s sake? Acting like these are bad things is just pure virtue signaling.
Apropos of nothing ‘virtue signalling’ sounds like a phrase coined by sociopaths to cathegorise behaviour they can’t quite comprehend.
+1
KKK victory marches planned for the start of December, btw.
get the klan all together in one place and, y’know, water the tree of liberty
Sometimes you don’t need a time-machine to kill Hitler.
I was talking to someone a few days ago who has a sister living in Carolina. She said it hasn’t been this bad since 9/11. Even the Irish are getting it.
It’s like a boil has been popped.
The name calling and the silencing is working well for you guys. Youve even woken the kkk. Good job guys.
At this stage debating the ballot result is pretty much pointless
Apparently the one demographic you can’t blame Trump for is the one that voted for him. Enabling them and infantilising them is sure to work out brilliantly!
The notion that white working class people are somehow OK with racism etc is one of the stupidest hottakes despite the fact they voted dem. Also never ever any mention of POC who are working class (overwhelming Dem). Which suggests it’s race isn’t it? I’m not going to pander to people by not calling out -isms in case they get upset. They should be upset because these views have consequences for real life people. It’s not some airy chat you’re having in the pub anymore.
The rest of your point has merit but comes from both sides. Maybe it’s Twitter or Facebook or whatever but there is no political discourse with nuance – calling someone’s statements racist is immediately flipped into they are racist even when care is taken with the wording. The media do this for clicks but also give voice to these views without question. It’s no surprise that kids in the us are changing build a wall at non- white students, they pick that up from somewhere.
I don’t think I’ve ever agreed with you move Don. Well said.
Even a stopped clock etc…. :)
I’ve been doing a lot of reading and thinking about this. I know I’ve been super upset and a pretty ranty and could do with taking my own advice. We all need to be better basically.
Very eloquently-put, Don.
Oh and ‘shut up with the name calling and silencing and scolding SJWs!’ he scolded. Do you think about anything you say or are the double standards all part of the fun for you?
@ Tony
I think someone should draw up a bullpoo bingo card of all the terms used by Trump supporters but I don’t expect it would be much of a game because you lot parrot the same one dimensional clichés so regularly it wouldn’t take very long to check.
What in God’s name is the ‘neo liberal, progressive elite’? In case you don’t know, Trump has some heavy duty Jewish connections and Netanyahu is a personal friend. His own daughter has converted to Judaism ffs.
Hardly an outside now is he?
Exactly, He’s a liberal centrist who campaigned on policies such as increasing paid leave for working women, the bast%rd
You’re not the brightest penny in the purse are you there Ron Burgundy?
Liberal snowflakes wanted Bernie Sanders to win and are now in the ascendancy in the DNC.
Most analyses with any credibility show that 100,000 or so votes in 3 mid west states decimated by globalisation were the deciding factor in the election rather than any of your guff about social issues. Besides Trump is a centrist liberal, that’s why Never Trumpers formed in butthole states like Utah, because Trump quote “wasn’t conservative enough”.
But never mind, in your fervent desire to slobber any old gloop on people with whom you disagree on social issues, and to swallow any oul festering red meat you can get your teeth into, we can see your true colours.
+1
Heh.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/everyone-to-blame-for-twats-like-trump-except-the-people-who-vote-for-them-20161113117081
I watched the Late Late Show. Colette Browne came across as uptight and judgmental.
” I watched the Late Late Show”
Shouldn’t you be puking into a latté?
Hopkins unfortunately made mince meat of both tubs and Collette Brown
Really…? I hate the Late Late but curiosity tuned me in…i thought Hopkins was a bold,petulant child of no relevance…i actually thought O’Brian summed her up perfectly….a preformer…a circus monkey.
Yes. REALLY.
yeah..it were those ready made cards what done it for me. minced meated um.
…..that,and her goading of a few college boys in the audience…wretched woman.
She may be very course but she still managed to make Tubs and Collette come across as absolute grannies it was almost cringe worthy, Tubs’ replies were so one dimensional it was difficult to tell who was presenting
Of coarse.
She came across like the snowflakes she gives out about – oh they’re threatening free speech – she says, while on national TV. Straight from the alt-right right playbook.
You live in the UK and you’re watching the Late Late? Are your meds not working?
Is that you captain? Lovely day isn’t it? Think I’ll go for a walk in the park later.
Careful now, Tis a full super moon tonight. Once only in seventy years. It’s very close.
May explain why I went off on one last night. :-(
You’re upset, I get it. Deep breaths, we’ll get there x
Get where? what’s the end game with this campaign you and SOQ are waging? How do you plan on changing the course of the administration over the next 4 years?
Jesus…
I know it’s all too easy to snark but I’m very afraid. I’d like to get to a point where i know my us family and friends are safe and that I am going to be safe where I live given the rise of the far right across the world. This isn’t just an American thing here.
Eh Boris Johnson Don, he’s oddly racist, very far right and presents a lot more for you to worry about, however all you seem to be concerned with is Donald Trump
Captain who? Why are you watching the Late Late? Is our TV really THAT good?
@ jusayinlike
Yes the election is over but the game hasn’t even started yet and as for this mantra I keep hearing of ‘just accept it’. What is ‘it’ exactly?
A businessman with a reputation for changing his mind depending on which way the wind is blowing. A campaign which was presented (at least to us) with far right if not fascist policies, which he is already rowing back from at lightening speed. The swastika sprayed all over the US and yet, he himself connected to the Israeli government with Jewish people in his own family.
It just doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t add up. Feel free to enlighten me as you feel you understand what ‘it’ is.
SOQ, Chelsea Clintons husband is jewish is there a conspiracy there too?
Boris Johnson does what’s best for Boris Johnson, he’s an idiot who enable the threat but he isn’t it.
Yes, because as I said, I have family and friends there. I’m also threatened by Tories, Brexit, austerity and stupid people playing at being edgy liberals but I don’t always talk about them on here.
Boris Johnson is very much a problem for you, he’s a pro brexit far right racist who migrated into politics from tv, sound familiar???
So far himself and his stooge farage have turned the UK into a hot bed of serial mainstream racism, and all the while spooky Theresa May is threatening nuclear war in the middle east and urinating all over survivors of political and institutional paedophilia yet your more concerned with the circus sewer pit that is US politics and Donald fuppin trump
I’m not sure you know who Boris Johnson is
Ignorance in the face of logic, nicely done Don
No, I genuinely think you are confused. Boris Johnson was a journalist, then an MP then the mayor of London. He didn’t come into anything from the TV, though he probably appeared on have I got news for you occasionally.
He also isn’t far right or involved with farage, he flipped on Brexit to seek out being pm not for anything else but his own greedy ambition and now finds himself in the no man’s land the FCO. Theresa may, while awful, is doing none of those things. None of his rhetoric has been as bad as what trump has said and he doesn’t surround himself with the people trump does. If anything, he is the epitome of met elite and happy to accept that.
Facts and logic indeed.
Boris Johnson came out of broadcasting and tv, Boris Johnson labelled Obama a confused Kenyan, Boris Johnson campaigned staunchly for brexit, all your opinions are irrelevant, what I’ve stated is fact Don.
Trump has no impact on your situation Don, the likes of Farage, May and Johnson are currently influencing policy that affects you directly yet your trying to tell me that Trump represents the greater evil would you like to explain?
What are you babbling about?
Boris Johnson did not ‘come out of TV’. He was a Journalist who became an MP and Mayor as Don said.
Just because you saw him on TV a few times doesn’t mean that’s where he made his name. Just because the conspiracy websites you read state something as fact doesn’t make it true.
Your an editor for a mainstream rag who cares what you think, go back to regurgitating the ap news you glorified dictaphone
I have already explained
You clarified my points Don than added your own opinions no apparent reason
I’m sorry Nigel that’s not very coherent but im going to presume your sharing the same sentiment as the editor
You seem very angry at me and still very very confused about Boris.
No Don im not angry, and you just admitted in an exchange further back that you went pretty ranty, and in not confused about Boris he’s both racist and far right, if anyone is confused it is you
Very angry. Blood coming from your wherever.
“pretty ranty”
country outraged as woman shows emotion shock – why aren’t you more cold like hillar- oh wait
More incoherence, and you actually have the neck to correct someone else’s grammar
Yes, which I explained. Not sure why that’s a bad thing but I’m going to leave you to it.
Woof
You falsely called me angry when it’s you that is full of outrage
Your an editor for a mainstream rag who cares what you think, go back to regurgitating the ap news you glorified dictaphone
hahahaha, you’re a moron. Continue to revel in your own ignorance.
Everyone knows exactly what you are editor, you wouldn’t know objective journalism if it smacked you in your slack gullible jaw
hahahaha
and you thought we were bad, rotide
@ jusayinlike
Clinton supporters are not the one’s who complained about the ‘liberal media being controlled by jews’ and who are running around spraying swastikas on walls?
SOQ they are also rioting so not sure that’s the best way of vindicating your argument
You just don’t get it do you?
Trump played the pied piper to every sort of far right low life pond scum in the US and now it turns out he is a fully paid up supporter of Israel. The biggest con job of our life time.
Unreal.
No I do get it, your so full of outrage your trying to shove it down everyone’s throat
So snowflake is the buzz word now. Why all of a sudden is this word being thrown around by everyone.
Yeah I know
I like it tho
No one of us is the same
And we are all beautiful
Happy out to wear that title
Loud n’proud lads
Loud and. Proud
*word a tear*
That’s beautiful frilly
Charlie Flanagan did not say we’re Trump’s friend. The Indo keeps making up headlines which put words in people’s mouths. I don’t know how they imagine this ok. They did the same with John Halligan a few weeks ago. No fan of Charlie Flanagan but it’d be great if he sued them for libel.
The ironic thing is, this is the busiest I’ve ever seen this place on a Sunday.
Bodger, take a bow.
Fair point, though how many ARE bodger??
*twilight zone noise*
I’m not, but im starting to think that’s a label you like to apply to anyone on here who doesn’t act like your lapdog
Lol OK woof woof
Boring Bodger baiting yawn
oh no the far right is coming I’m afraid, you probably voted for them ffs
Sorry bodger
Your like a parrot at this stage
jesus, newsjustin/justsayinlike – would you ever learn the difference between “your” and “you’re”?!
starina/ahjayzis
as if i have the time for more than one.
Eh I dunno is it all Bodger
Sur Wednesday’s Papers had a huge turnout
Remember lads
The content drives the traffic
Bodger has sandboxed me. I would have preferred a good spanking. Oh go on.
I have the full maid outfit and a few things I heard you liked from the TH club on Harcourt street?
Well that’s a brand new low for you SOQ, the aroma of desperation is very apparent at this stage
Well
They shifted my Frill Bit off the roster and replaced it with shyte from 2011
What happened there Frilly, missed that…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoUqao0GLg0
This site really needs a knock on the door.
Ok, I was pretty ranty in that post and resorted to the cliches I was condemning in others. Apologies. Having spent the election here in the states and having spent a lot of time here in the last few years, the vote isn’t really a surprise, even though it is shocking. Th amount of disenfranchised people here of all races and demographics is astounding and Trump realised that. Upset in the manufacturing and energy states because of lack of jobs and declining industry, anger in the gentrified cities, hopelessness at the inequality they see, fear of the medical future they face etc… And all this under the rainbow of progressive liberalism which ground them down telling them what they should drive, how much water they should use, how they should educate their kids, what they should think read and say… It is condescending and very few people argue otherwise. But Hilary didnt see this, she just kept with the same trope of equality and inclusivity and more of the same economics. This just did not ring true. She and her party called Trump and his supporters neanderthal, which only inflamed the condescension and therefore the backlash. At the protest yesterday, there were about 6 conflicting chants and messages. The least one which gained traction was the cry-in on the embarcadero which almost caused a fight with other marchers saying how pathetic and self centred a response it was.
Its a mess, but to think that its due to racism and homophobia and mysogyny would be to totally underestimate the real world problems it represented. So the language of the left and the media which expressed it must be placed under total review if it is to be effective. Sanders did it better because he added grit.
I was wondering, would Sanders have won?
Hilary and Sanders would have nailed it.
That’s disappointing to hear.
Given Trump’s polarising statements I wondered was that why she needed Kaine, to reassure moderates that Red Dawn wasn’t happening.
The upper echelons of the Democratic party would never have allowed Sanders. They are too plugged in to the financial and political elite that Bernie railed against. Compromise beyond their own salvation.
Doubt that
But in hindsight only
I tell ya who’d a done better
Biden Sanders
Good piece Tony
Yes well, as per original post by Kieran..
Go lecture gay fellas who’ll be having their face stitched back again in or around a number of cities in the US tonight about how you feel that identity politics is passé.
If your under moderation I’d imagine it’s due to the threats made to the moderators
The only identity politics allowed is white identity, right?
Things still not right areinf here
130 plus comments
And none ‘ve em about Niamh Horan
And she all dolled up with an curly blow en’ every’ting
She’s an absolutely woeful journalist totally unworthy of any debate whatsoever