From top: Oliver Callan: Niamh Reilly
Further to Oliver Callan’s controversial contribution to inter gender harmony.
Oliver Callan’s gambol in the direction of a dialogue about men’s perceptions of feminism and their role in achieving gender equality is welcome.
Few would dispute that men, no less than women, must recognise the harmful consequences of gender inequalities, stereotypes and violence, and the necessity of working together to transform the attitudes and actions that perpetuate such harms.
The main difficulty with your columnist’s modest proposal is that it gives women yet another onerous unpaid job to do – to “get to”, “to teach” and to take by the hand men who are still attached to chauvinism and, presumably, to cajole them along the road to gender equality.
He also says women must make a greater effort to understand (male) chauvinism in order to dismantle it. But women understand such chauvinism very well; it is why they found it necessary to invent feminism.
I hope the author will dig deeper, beyond social media and popular commercial websites, to form his views about the diverse expressions of feminism in Ireland and around the world. – Yours, etc,
Professor Niamh Reilly
Professor of Political Science and Sociology,
NUI Galway
FIGHT!
Oliver Callan’s Perception Of Feminism (Irish Times Letters)
Oliver Callan is just a yellow pack Mario Rosenstock. Where Mario goes, Callan inevitably follows with an inferior product.
Rosenstock is nothing compared to him and a lot less political, which is the whole point of satire in Ireland.
Callan isn’t satire, just insulting impersonations. What’s satirical about portraying George Hook’s family as a bunch of overeating pigs?
I really disliked him after his conflict with Paul Galvin, who of course is no angel either.
He showed himself to be a petty and mean scumbag in my opinion.
Is this the vehicle the Establishment is going to use to undo Oliver Callan?
He’s quite critical of the Government and vested interests and I can sense them all squirming and wondering how to make him unpopular.
is she the establishment? wish I was the establishment, that would be deadly. I’d slap you all aside
I imagine that “the Establishment”, much like everyone else, could give two fupps about what that unfunny fellow is saying this week (or any week).
What is it with useless comics – mocker of the afflicted Boyle yesterday, SF ballwasher Callan today – and politics?
“SF ballwasher”
That’s it though Neilo isn’t it. Fine Gael hate him and now they’re out to get him off the air.
@Boy M5: you could be right, I’m blinded by my dislike of Callan’s work.
Callan took aim and hit the feminazis and maginas right between the eyes. His comment, in particular, about drag queens is the fly in the ointment Prof Reilly and her ilk are afraid to comment on. And that silence speaks volumes.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1bF8kie3TyA/maxresdefault.jpg
Oh dear… Or maybe it’s “satire”. By the way, Eamonn, you do know that Callan is one of those gay types you hate, don’t you?
Callan seems to be rubbing a lot of people up the wrong way. For a satirist, that’s the basic job description.
Nothing like wading into a debate you are on the far fringes off, sounding off that you have all the answers, then slinking back into your corner. Next up I’ll explain why all Women need to chill.
The new wave of so-called Feminism is a fraud. It’s a middle class hobby providing an income for journalists and columnists.
They don’t care a jot about the working class women who they never engage with.
Well I do agree with this, it’s the lifeblood of the guardian these days.
Funniest article of the year was the Guardians four star review of Ghostbusters, so transparent you could see the kak running through its colon
Currently we have all female Gyms, car insurance fo rwomen only and my kid can’t play football with his neighbout because it’s an all girls team. Seem to recall some hoo-ha about an all-male golf club in Portmarnock there in the past
Itsforwomen.ie aren’t allowed to not quote male drivers http://www.askaboutmoney.com/threads/its4women-ie-actually-quote-men.188742/
Yeah but you have to put on a voice.
https://www.aig.ie/personal/car/car-insurance-for-women
https://www.123.ie/car-insurance/womens-car-insurance
http://www.aviva.ie/car-insurance/women-drivers/
etc
women-only gyms only exist because so many men can’t stop objectifying women and making them uncomfortable long enough to even have a workout. it’s not like the facilities in Curves are extra-spectacular and we’re just meanly keeping it away from the menfolk.
One reason men won’t join feminism, and will reject it outright is it’s self serving approach to domestic violence.
SAFEIreland is run by feminism/ists, and has feminism informing it’s approach to domestic violence intervention in that it has unwavering support for the known to be biased and outright blind model of domestic violence intervention – The Duluth Model.
Blind to female perpetrators, blind to male victims – under this feminist theory based or ‘patriarchy’ based model men can ONLY be viewed as oppressors; and women ONLY viewed as victims.
Yet stats the world over show domestic violence is pretty even spread, and even instigated more by women, than by men, in many parts of the western world.
Feminism has unwavering ideological support for this model of DV intervention and refuses to change from it, even after being made aware of it’s pitfalls, feminism sticks to it like a religion sticks to it’s holy books. One does not need to be a sociologist to know how ideology or religion can lead to willful blindness, and unconscious blindness, from truth, as feminism is known to be.
This was shown to be the case when the recent SAFEIreland Summit paid, with tax funds and donations, for Karen Ingala Smith, to be a speaker. This hate filled person sees statistics on male victims of domestic violence as “dangerous” to the feminist movement. Her claims are that it is dangerous to DV, but there is no support for this, no research, nothing. And Canada has a report showing that if nothing was done rather than apply the Duluth Model, things would be better…. more research is needed on that.
Anyway, this woman campaigns to retain the Duluth Model, and is dismissive of experts on the statistics of domestic violence, even describing them as “unhelpful at best, it is derailing and dangerous at worst”.
Link to the quote:
https://kareningalasmith.com/2013/04/29/this-thing-about-male-victims/
Karen Ingala Smith on men in domestic violence:
https://kareningalasmith.com/what-about-the-men-special-mens-section/
As long as feminism continues it’s misandry in hiring speakers like Smith in an official capacity through charities like SAFEIreland with the pretence of doing good work for DV when really it’s about supporting the movement, and in the denial of the truth in DV statistics, and insisting on viewing the world through a “feminist lens” incapable of seeing the world for what it is, then yeah, feminism in that regard will always be distrusted and mocked, as it should be.
In the UK, a woman dies every 3 days from domestic violence, and a man dies every 12 / 13 days…. or 1 in 4 deaths from DV are men, but these stats are seen as excusable by feminism. Not worthy of attention enough to fix the model of intervention…. An ‘equality’ movement would have fixed this upon seeing the problem, feminism campaigns to maintain it.
Feminism’s approach to DV is broken, wrong, ineffectual (according to a Canadian study) and is far too ideologically informed to be of real benefit to the wider picture… of DV, the world, and everything in it.
We only know of male DV stats in the last couple of decades or so because researchers are no longer relying on feminist ‘research’ to gather information on DV – this is a super brilliant and relief bringing development.
Additionally, the upcoming Istanbul Convention is largely written in feminist language, again referring to ‘patriarchy’ and ignoring the issues around gay and LGBT couples and how it, the Istanbul Convention, does not recognise all DV victims nor perps – male on male DV, who is the victim?; and woman on woman DV, who is the perp? More on that here – http://www.universitytimes.ie/2016/06/male-victims-of-intimate-partner-violence-are-ignored-in-the-irish-system/
Anyway… my point in a nutshell…. until feminism stops speaking out the side of its mouth about ‘equality’ and actually stops with the lying biased research used to bolster its movement; quits it’s regressive misandry; and all the other passive aggressive bullpoo that has come out of the movement in the last twenty years then, yeah, then it is best ignored by men as it has nothing to offer that egalitarianism doesn’t already give, and egalitarianism does it without clauses.
Fupp modern feminism Niamh, it’s a deluded, untrustworthy, misandric movement, that has devolved into a regressive left anti-free speech movement that tries to be all things to everyone while staying true to it’s misandric ideological tenets… it just can’t work.
On this bit… ” The main difficulty with your columnist’s modest proposal is that it gives women yet another onerous unpaid job to do – to “get to”, “to teach” and to take by the hand men who are still attached to chauvinism and, presumably, to cajole them along the road to gender equality. ”
No Niamh, it’s not “another onerous… unpaid job”, its feminism, and you are paid well as a professor of Political Science & Sociology … but due to the “feminist lens” approach to viewing the world, unfortunately you will never see the full picture sociology has to offer.
I am a #DV survivor of over six years of abuse myself, and I know from experience that feminism ( ‘lived experience’ if you will, and the ‘intersectional’ oppression of the system of DV supports as propped up by feminism ) works counter to the needs of male victims of DV. And as long as it does that (among other things), it will never be seen as an equality movement.
Egalitarianism before feminism !
Real equality, not ideology!
(one can be an equity-feminist and be an egalitarian)
Powerful piece Clampers, I’m no stranger to the back of my wife’s hand either, and like many men, I just curled up in a ball while the blows were reigned down on my back and the nails dragged across my face, and never, ever said a word to no one.
Sorry to hear it Eamonn
@Clampers & Eamonn: stay strong. A cousin of mine – married relatively late in life – was beaten savagely for years by his wife. It was almost a relief to his family when he died of cancer about 10 years ago. That wagon made damn sure there was a fat life insurance policy on the poor crathur and she has since married a much older, much richer farmer. I believe his grown-up kids are keeping a weather eye on their father’s health.
Cheers Neilo :)
:(
Look after yourself, Clampers, glad to hear that you came out the other side of it.
Cheers dude!
In a far better place than I was a few years ago :)
Thank you.
And you
All reads like 50 year old newspaper archive. Apart from mental strangers in public places and state policy makers (these could be considered equal categories for simplicity), I never experienced gender inequality at home, with friends or professionally.
May be people should be more selective choosing friends, lovers, spouses and workplaces. Then all we have left to deal with are politicians. Mental strangers will always be mental strangers, it’s not about gender equality.
” I hope the author will dig deeper, beyond social media and popular commercial websites, to form his views about the diverse expressions of feminism in Ireland and around the world ”
Good advice that… we should all be aware of the myopia of the “feminist lens”, and its’ ideologues and regressives like Karen Ingala Smith.
Absolutely Clampers. The internet has poisoned this debate, most people are far more nuanced on these issues that the people making their living off controversialism.
I’m also very sorry to hear of your experiences with DV. Happens to men far more often than many would like to admit.
And to paraphrase Sideshow Bob, “I’m aware of the irony of appearing on the internet in order to decry it, so don’t bother pointing that out.”
No worries Roisín… and thanks for the kind words.
He was wrong about squee’s comments on Fidel Castro…
You’re on for a hat-rick now, ya big attention seeking muppet ye….
Stick to the day job whatever that is…
:-J