43 thoughts on “None Shall Sleep

  1. Dave

    The building was recently sold, perhaps they are going to be doing construction work?

    1. ElPsyKongaroo

      That’s what it looks like to me. A bunch of lads in high vis jackets were moving gear in this morning.

    1. Nigel

      Footpath is surely a public space?

      (All the more reason to assume it’s construction work or renovation-related, but you never know.)

      1. Cian

        I assume that the space directly underneath the building is not public space. Which is now enclosed by a fence.

        Granted the fence is on the footpath, which is most likely public.

        1. Nigel

          Well, that’s what I meant but yeah, I would assume anything directly underneath is theirs. Though, again, you never know.

          1. Nigel

            Yeah, that’s a case of the public co-opting what is essentially a private space for public use.

          2. Owen C

            If a homeless person has been sleeping rough there for 12 years, can he get squatters rights??

          3. scottser

            there’s no such thing as a ‘public space’. it is private space owned by a public body. trip and break your ankle for instance. are you going to sue the public or the council?

      1. Nigel

        Why oh why can’t homeless people be more houseproud of the cold hard streets where they’re obliged to sleep?
        Also what kind of weird mutant abomination-of-science pigeons do you have?

      1. Cian

        …because… because all the blueshirt TDs were out last night at the old Central Bank putting up fences.

      2. dav

        Lets see.
        1. massive homeless problem
        2. food provided by a charity
        3. have no premises and have to feed people on the street
        4. the building in question was state property, sold to vulture funds for a song

  2. Eamonn Clancy

    The homeless don’t need feeding. They have the dole and no rent or electricity bills. There are men and women who are crippled with huge rents and mortgages who have barely enough left over to put food on the table.

    1. Nigel

      Wow I bet those men and women with huge rents and mortgages can”t wait to hit a crunch and become homeless so they don’t have to worry about food rent or electricity bills!

    2. Ray

      Most homeless do not get the dole. It requires a residential address. Utility bill proof etc.

      I know very little homeless who do get it, the vast vast majority cannot claim it.

        1. Listrade

          The Supplementary Welfare allowance has a lot of caveats that will make it difficult for homeless people to qualify for.

          To qualify you need:
          You have registered for work with your local Intreo Centre if you are of working age.
          You satisfy the habitual residence condition. (which requires a bank account and proof of residency in your own name to get).

          To apply you need the following:
          Personal Public Service (PPS) numbers (formerly RSI numbers) for yourself, your spouse, civil partner or cohabitant and your children
          Proof of residency
          Proof of identity, for example, a Public Services Card (if you have one), a passport, driving licence, work permit, immigration (GNIB) card, etc.
          Evidence of any household income
          Birth certificates for any children you include in your application
          Documents to show your income and financial situation, such as, pay slips, P45, P35, P60, bank statements, etc.

          1. Cian

            If you want to get free money from the State you need to provide evidence that your are eligible: like you need to prove your identity and that of any children you’re claiming for. I don’t see a problem with this…
            BTW You’re only subject to habitual residence if you’re non EU/EEA. Again, I’m happy with this – if you want to claim money in Ireland you gotta prove you live here.

          2. Listrade

            Neither do I. However, the point being that being homeless may present problems in proving some of those conditions. So while benefits may be available to those are homeless, the catch-22 is that they can’t qualify because they are homeless.

          3. Listrade

            Also the assumption of “free” money . We’re often asked to overlook tax-breaks and corporate welfare because of the greater picture of their other contributions to the economy and other taxes. Rarely is this courtesy extended to those on welfare.

            Their welfare isn’t placed in off-shore accounts, it is spent on goods and services. It makes its way back in to the economy.

  3. Frilly Keane

    I accept its been sold but surely that whole concourse area that’s not behind the permanent railings is Civic Space

    like
    has right of way not been firmly established at this stage?

    1. Owen C

      I dont see how a right of way could be established. Reclaiming the area in question does not stop you from getting anywhere or cause a material ‘extra’ journey?

      1. Frilly Keane

        fair ’nuff

        I hope the planners are a sticky with this development as they were with me

        1. Cian

          LOL. Two hopes.
          When that was first built it broke the planning permission by being too high.
          The planning office at the time was immediately next door.
          They applied for, and got retention

    1. Vote Rep #1

      That construction work is happening to a privately owned building in the city? Weird thing to be proud of.

      1. dav

        yes because property developers and vulture funds have done nothing but good for this country…

  4. ____

    Could a right-of-way have been established?

    It would be such a shame if that stays closed off, I really like how the building us designed to keep that space available.

    1. Paps

      How could a right-of-way be established? Through a privately owned construction site?

    2. Happy Molloy

      I think there may have been a condition that the plaza does remain a thoroughfare and open to the public.

      But the place at present is a building site so it would be reckless, and indeed stupid, to neglect to close it off.

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