Eir promised something they couldn’t deliver….what a shocker
GiggidyGoo
But there’s a Plan B according to Naughton. At lease there will be a group set up to discuss how a Plan B will be devised, what should be in a plan B, the need for a Plan C.
Another of Phat Rabbitte’s failures, duly second-failed by naughton. Eircode anyone?
DeSelby
This is the legacy of Mary O’Rourke, and her privatisation of Eircom. This was a huge strategic asset for the economy, and the worst time to privatise. For those who don’t remember, this was when there was almost no broadband, and the country was screaming for it…. and anybody that invested, lost their shirts. Since then, Eircom/Eir whatever, has changed hands numerous times, and has been asset stripped and sold on.
Thanks Mary, thanks Fianna Fail.
Taunton
Eircom was a mess when it was sold, and was incapable of delivering anything like broadband. Eircom should have been broken up and possibly sold, but a new company should have been created that looked after infrastructure, like what happened with ESB, Electric Ireland and EirGrid
cian
..or perhaps we should take a look at our planning and realise that there is a downside to allowing one-off housing all over the countryside – rather than concentrating housing in villages & towns.
DeSelby
Eircom was certainly dysfunctional, that doesn’t mean that passing it off unconditionally, at such a critical time, was a good move.
Selling it in the manner that it was sold, sent the rollout of broadband back a decade.
The rural broadband scheme is trying to use a private entity to install a natural public utility. As we have seen, relying on the private sector for social housing, this model does not work.
@DeSelby
While it is a lot better in the UK you need to compare the population density and population coverage of the two countries
The UK has a 83% urban population: Ireland has 64%;
Excluding Dublin, the population density of ROI is less than 50 people per km²; England (excluding London) is 350 people per km²…
Increasing_Displacement
You don’t need wired to get high speed.
Imagine provide adequate speeds for 4K streaming.
This would suffice until 5G networks are available.
They could be contracted to supply less dense areas.
The whole thing came to a head when the Vodafone group left after eir was gifted the pick of the litter (300k of the best properties) and now they got the best theyre out. Scumbags
fupp eir and Naughton is a clown
DeSelby
I’m not disputing the density differential, however 95% super-fast broadband coverage speaks for itself. We have been faffing about on this for nearly 20 years.
Martco
there’s a few sides to this but the bottom line from a tech practical perspective is what they’ve promised just ain’t feasible….I do wonder if there’s ANYONE in the civils with an ounce of real tech knowhow atall…but more annoyed at Eir cos they know that it was and is pure lies n spin
sure your average 16y/o would know it..good media (eg copper, fibre) to every door and the gear to support that properly only possible for large concentrations of billpayers end of! and even in Dublin urban areas there’s loads of pockets where legacy physical issues mean dsl@1-2 meg and bs like shared lines?! typical
point is that this was and remains to be a LIE. until some kind of sexy safe and affordable air transmission tech arrives to match phy media a la startrek its electioneering lies to your face
grrr :)
GiggidyGoo
Didn’t take long for Fitz to trip herself up.
some old queen
Newton Emerson: ‘Iran on the Bann’ is facing a new social border
Interesting piece by Newton about how the social change in the south is now outflanking the north.
And potholes Newton, lots of deep wide potholes. Car mechanics in NI must be doing great business at the moment.
Why is Rory Best, captain of the Irish Rugby team , attending the trial in Belfast? I believe in the presumption of innocence and a fair trial , but he should not in his position ,attend this trial.
Zoella
Cry me a river for the Daily Express. PC culture gone mad indeed! Poor sexist goms, welcome to 2018.
Dennis Naughten = clown
This
Eir promised something they couldn’t deliver….what a shocker
But there’s a Plan B according to Naughton. At lease there will be a group set up to discuss how a Plan B will be devised, what should be in a plan B, the need for a Plan C.
Another of Phat Rabbitte’s failures, duly second-failed by naughton. Eircode anyone?
This is the legacy of Mary O’Rourke, and her privatisation of Eircom. This was a huge strategic asset for the economy, and the worst time to privatise. For those who don’t remember, this was when there was almost no broadband, and the country was screaming for it…. and anybody that invested, lost their shirts. Since then, Eircom/Eir whatever, has changed hands numerous times, and has been asset stripped and sold on.
Thanks Mary, thanks Fianna Fail.
Eircom was a mess when it was sold, and was incapable of delivering anything like broadband. Eircom should have been broken up and possibly sold, but a new company should have been created that looked after infrastructure, like what happened with ESB, Electric Ireland and EirGrid
..or perhaps we should take a look at our planning and realise that there is a downside to allowing one-off housing all over the countryside – rather than concentrating housing in villages & towns.
Eircom was certainly dysfunctional, that doesn’t mean that passing it off unconditionally, at such a critical time, was a good move.
Selling it in the manner that it was sold, sent the rollout of broadband back a decade.
The rural broadband scheme is trying to use a private entity to install a natural public utility. As we have seen, relying on the private sector for social housing, this model does not work.
Compare and contrast (what could have been) with the UK.
https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/29/bduk-superfast-broadband-coverage/
@DeSelby
While it is a lot better in the UK you need to compare the population density and population coverage of the two countries
The UK has a 83% urban population: Ireland has 64%;
Excluding Dublin, the population density of ROI is less than 50 people per km²; England (excluding London) is 350 people per km²…
You don’t need wired to get high speed.
Imagine provide adequate speeds for 4K streaming.
This would suffice until 5G networks are available.
They could be contracted to supply less dense areas.
The whole thing came to a head when the Vodafone group left after eir was gifted the pick of the litter (300k of the best properties) and now they got the best theyre out. Scumbags
fupp eir and Naughton is a clown
I’m not disputing the density differential, however 95% super-fast broadband coverage speaks for itself. We have been faffing about on this for nearly 20 years.
there’s a few sides to this but the bottom line from a tech practical perspective is what they’ve promised just ain’t feasible….I do wonder if there’s ANYONE in the civils with an ounce of real tech knowhow atall…but more annoyed at Eir cos they know that it was and is pure lies n spin
sure your average 16y/o would know it..good media (eg copper, fibre) to every door and the gear to support that properly only possible for large concentrations of billpayers end of! and even in Dublin urban areas there’s loads of pockets where legacy physical issues mean dsl@1-2 meg and bs like shared lines?! typical
point is that this was and remains to be a LIE. until some kind of sexy safe and affordable air transmission tech arrives to match phy media a la startrek its electioneering lies to your face
grrr :)
Didn’t take long for Fitz to trip herself up.
Newton Emerson: ‘Iran on the Bann’ is facing a new social border
Interesting piece by Newton about how the social change in the south is now outflanking the north.
And potholes Newton, lots of deep wide potholes. Car mechanics in NI must be doing great business at the moment.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/newton-emerson-iran-on-the-bann-is-facing-a-new-social-border-1.3375253
Why is Rory Best, captain of the Irish Rugby team , attending the trial in Belfast? I believe in the presumption of innocence and a fair trial , but he should not in his position ,attend this trial.
Cry me a river for the Daily Express. PC culture gone mad indeed! Poor sexist goms, welcome to 2018.