49 thoughts on “Meanwhile, In Cork

    1. newsjustin

      That argument has been lost dylad.

      Everyone who’s had a baby, and most who haven’t, describes their baby in utero as a baby. Deal with it.

      1. cian

        “Everyone who’s had a baby, and most who haven’t, describes their baby in utero as a baby. Deal with it.”
        Really? Everyone?

        Even those that have had an abortion?
        …and those that had a miscarriage?
        …and those that had epitomic pregnancies?
        …and those that took the morning-after pill?

        or, did you mean, “some people”?

  1. bisted

    …9/4 with Paddy Power that things will remain unchanged…pro-life waging a strong campaign while Repeal supporters are believing their own press releases…

    1. newsjustin

      Repeal supporters are stuck arguing about what large percentage of babies with Down Syndrome are aborted in other countries.

      1. realPolithicks

        It’s you anti-choicers who are erecting these nonsensical billboards, but yeah “Repeal supporters are stuck arguing about what large percentage of babies with Down Syndrome are aborted in other countries” . Your apparent need to post multiple comments every time repeal is mentioned is starting to show in terms of how much sense you make. Go back to trying for quality over quantity.

    2. qwerty123

      Are you saying these are low odds and that the 8th will stay? Repeal is 2/7. I would not back the anti choice side.

      1. bisted

        …I think the 2/7 Repeal is a symptom of the consensus that this is a foregone conclusion…the pro-life crowrd won’t change any minds but they will get their supporters out to vote…as it stands the 9/4 looks generous…

  2. postmanpat

    9/4 damn! I hate the fact that I have to get off my lazy bottom just to cancel out one pro lifer. To fix a situation that shouldn’t be there in the first place. And they will probably win anyway. I know a senior civil servant that does the count supervising, and I would not trust him as far as I would throw him. If tampering goes on it will be on the pro life side. (The end justifies the means to militant Christians after all) The thought of battling through campaigners from both sides on the way down to my old primary school on voting night? I’m not looking forward to it. Maybe if I get drunk first. it might be fun then. All I know is , is that Ill probably have to put a couple of grand into a private abortion fund in case my young wan gets knocked up by some fupping eejit when she’s 16 or something.

  3. TheRealJane

    Let’s suppose for a moment that people who find that their foetus has Down’s and they don’t have access to abortion. If they are pretty sure that they cannot and will not provide the extra care necessary, where do they turn? There is no appetite among prospective adopters for babies with any kind of ongoing challenges. So what do the pro lifers propose?

    Further, today Irish women will seen terminations abroad for this reason. We just have no clear idea how many. The truth is, Irish foetuses are aborted as is stands because of Down’s. The idea that this is just going to be introduced by repeal of the 8th is massively dishonest and contrary to reality.

    1. ahjayzis

      As if reality has anything to do with it.

      These people never say it, but their beliefs essentially demand they have ill, dying, suicidal or distressed women tied to a bed for 9 months. It’s nationalisation of a womb. You can’t reason with people who see women as equivalent to a cell cluster.

      1. Sentient Won

        Your exaggeration is unbecoming but no doubt necessary in order to justify the “Choice” platform that in reality will allow women to destroy their own children in the womb and make the rest of us accessories to these actions.

        1. ahjayzis

          Are you at Dublin Port / Airport now manfully stopping women from going to murder children?

          What campaigning do you do to stop women going to England to murder Irish children?

          If you really believe these are murders of Irish people, and you’re doing nothing to stop it, you’re an accessory.

          But you don’t really believe that. Given the choice of saving one 2 year old child and a million fertilised embryos in a fire – you’d obviously choose the child, right?

          That’s what pisses me off the most, you people don’t even believe it’s a person, you just can’t stand a woman deciding what goes on inside her own body.

        2. Daisy Chainsaw

          Why aren’t you repealing the 13th, Sentient? That’s the amendment that permits several thousand Irish abortions a year.

    2. Daisy Chainsaw

      What happened to all those babies with disabilities whose parents were told to just leave them in the hospital after they were born? It doesn’t happen now, but It was the done thing in the last century up to the 70s. Children with DS are the human equivalent of an Andrex Puppy. Antichoice don’t give the slightest damn about them, but they’re handy to exploit because they look sooooo cuuuute on a poster.

  4. Liam Deliverance

    I noticed a similar big billboard on the N2 yesterday, couldn’t read it fully as I was the driver,this is an important and complex argument and referendum but I find it sad to see that different organisations are resorting to billboards to buy a persons vote.

      1. newsjustin

        I wish I had that kinda money.

        I’d probably go the dragging a banner behind a plane or sky-writing route though. You know, pointlessly flash, noisy and short-lived. That reminds me, Valentine’s Day is coming up.

        1. mildred st. meadowlark

          I look forward to it. I’ll have to act surprised and i’m a real panto actor so that’ll be fun.

          1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            NO. WAY!
            *hand to mouth*
            *eyes boggling*
            *fanning tears away from eyes*

            That kinda jiggerypokery?

  5. Ronan

    Location is Albert St, part of N27 in city and main north/south axis apart from Jack Lynch Tunnel.

    Good billboard location choice. They mean business

  6. phil

    There is a State Run home for Down Syndrome people in Beaufort Kerry, superb place, staff are wonderful , very well run. I worked there for a short time.

    There are all sorts of ‘clients’ there , they call them clients for some reason. They range from across the spectrum, from day visitors , to permanent residents , most of the permanent residents have been dumped there by their families , they maybe get a visit once a year if lucky.

    There is an area of the building called the ‘white room’ , I only visited that room once, that was my last day working there. The white room is where the most extreme clients are looked after , I should have listened to the assistant manager when she advised me not to go there, I still think of the place from time to time, but what I saw in there , well Id rather not say.

    Whichever side of that poster you fall on , I would advise you to visit a place like that and talk to the staff before you go opening your mouth to offer an uneducated opinion.

    BTW I personally would never judge parents who decide to get an abortion in those circumstances, and would advise anyone to get the test done whilst pregnant.

  7. Increasing_Displacement

    Anyone up for finding out what advertiser is accepting money to put up this bullpoo and shame them online?

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      I’m not into the shaming thing as the company is only providing a space because that’s what their business is. I’m sure if Repeal had the deep pockets to bankroll that kind of campaign, supporters wouldn’t want the businesses they use attacked by antis.

        1. Daisy Chainsaw

          And that’s public and available for all to see.

          Who’s bankrolling the antichoice, ignorant DS andrex puppies billboard campaign?

      1. Increasing_Displacement

        I’d like to know who is a moral-less sack of poo who will take money to print deceit

  8. Nigel

    It’s only fair the pro-lifers sanctify the disabled in such a cynical marketing effort since the church was the cause of so much suffering inflicted on disabled children, turning them into holy martyrs.

  9. avocado

    How much does it cost to hire a billboard? $5,000 a month if it’s outside Ebbing, Missouri; how much in Dublin? Outside Dublin?
    (And given that the association representing people with Down’s Syndrome has asked for references to them or images of them to be used in the referendum debate, who’s nasty enough to do it?)

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