That doesn’t make sense, how can you abort a baby?
The Real Shrimply Pibbles
Nothing those people say makes sense.
newsjustin
That argument has been lost dylad.
Everyone who’s had a baby, and most who haven’t, describes their baby in utero as a baby. Deal with it.
mildred st. meadowlark
Women will have abortions newsjustin. Get over it.
As you put it yourself.
mildred st. meadowlark
lol
or rather, Deal with it.
cian
“Everyone who’s had a baby, and most who haven’t, describes their baby in utero as a baby. Deal with it.”
Really? Everyone?
Even those that have had an abortion?
…and those that had a miscarriage?
…and those that had epitomic pregnancies?
…and those that took the morning-after pill?
or, did you mean, “some people”?
Anomanomanom
Well that’s not true.
Sentient Won
That’s the big question Dylad… how can you abort a baby?
When you have to resort to stupid videos to explain, you’ve lost.
bisted
…9/4 with Paddy Power that things will remain unchanged…pro-life waging a strong campaign while Repeal supporters are believing their own press releases…
newsjustin
Repeal supporters are stuck arguing about what large percentage of babies with Down Syndrome are aborted in other countries.
Increasing_Displacement
They don’t care about that as it has nothing to do with the decision.
realPolithicks
It’s you anti-choicers who are erecting these nonsensical billboards, but yeah “Repeal supporters are stuck arguing about what large percentage of babies with Down Syndrome are aborted in other countries” . Your apparent need to post multiple comments every time repeal is mentioned is starting to show in terms of how much sense you make. Go back to trying for quality over quantity.
qwerty123
Are you saying these are low odds and that the 8th will stay? Repeal is 2/7. I would not back the anti choice side.
bisted
…I think the 2/7 Repeal is a symptom of the consensus that this is a foregone conclusion…the pro-life crowrd won’t change any minds but they will get their supporters out to vote…as it stands the 9/4 looks generous…
qwerty123
Interesting, and the summer date doesn’t suit the younger voters either.
Daisy Chainsaw
The “summer date” hasn’t been announced yet.
kellma
250million for the NHS if Brexit was pushed through! OH wait…….
postmanpat
9/4 damn! I hate the fact that I have to get off my lazy bottom just to cancel out one pro lifer. To fix a situation that shouldn’t be there in the first place. And they will probably win anyway. I know a senior civil servant that does the count supervising, and I would not trust him as far as I would throw him. If tampering goes on it will be on the pro life side. (The end justifies the means to militant Christians after all) The thought of battling through campaigners from both sides on the way down to my old primary school on voting night? I’m not looking forward to it. Maybe if I get drunk first. it might be fun then. All I know is , is that Ill probably have to put a couple of grand into a private abortion fund in case my young wan gets knocked up by some fupping eejit when she’s 16 or something.
TheRealJane
Let’s suppose for a moment that people who find that their foetus has Down’s and they don’t have access to abortion. If they are pretty sure that they cannot and will not provide the extra care necessary, where do they turn? There is no appetite among prospective adopters for babies with any kind of ongoing challenges. So what do the pro lifers propose?
Further, today Irish women will seen terminations abroad for this reason. We just have no clear idea how many. The truth is, Irish foetuses are aborted as is stands because of Down’s. The idea that this is just going to be introduced by repeal of the 8th is massively dishonest and contrary to reality.
Yep
+1
ahjayzis
As if reality has anything to do with it.
These people never say it, but their beliefs essentially demand they have ill, dying, suicidal or distressed women tied to a bed for 9 months. It’s nationalisation of a womb. You can’t reason with people who see women as equivalent to a cell cluster.
Janet, I ate my Avatar
+1
Sentient Won
Your exaggeration is unbecoming but no doubt necessary in order to justify the “Choice” platform that in reality will allow women to destroy their own children in the womb and make the rest of us accessories to these actions.
mildred st. meadowlark
Oh my…
ahjayzis
Are you at Dublin Port / Airport now manfully stopping women from going to murder children?
What campaigning do you do to stop women going to England to murder Irish children?
If you really believe these are murders of Irish people, and you’re doing nothing to stop it, you’re an accessory.
But you don’t really believe that. Given the choice of saving one 2 year old child and a million fertilised embryos in a fire – you’d obviously choose the child, right?
That’s what pisses me off the most, you people don’t even believe it’s a person, you just can’t stand a woman deciding what goes on inside her own body.
Daisy Chainsaw
Why aren’t you repealing the 13th, Sentient? That’s the amendment that permits several thousand Irish abortions a year.
mildred st. meadowlark
+1ahj
Daisy Chainsaw
What happened to all those babies with disabilities whose parents were told to just leave them in the hospital after they were born? It doesn’t happen now, but It was the done thing in the last century up to the 70s. Children with DS are the human equivalent of an Andrex Puppy. Antichoice don’t give the slightest damn about them, but they’re handy to exploit because they look sooooo cuuuute on a poster.
Andyourpointiswhatexactly?
“Congenital idiots” was the phrase used in Tuam, I hear.
mildred st. meadowlark
Oh dear.
I hope not, but I’ve funny feeling I’m going to be disappointed.
Liam Deliverance
I noticed a similar big billboard on the N2 yesterday, couldn’t read it fully as I was the driver,this is an important and complex argument and referendum but I find it sad to see that different organisations are resorting to billboards to buy a persons vote.
Custo
There’s one in Inchicore too. Wonder who’s funding them?
mildred st. meadowlark
Newsjustin is. I thought this was common knowledge?
newsjustin
I wish I had that kinda money.
I’d probably go the dragging a banner behind a plane or sky-writing route though. You know, pointlessly flash, noisy and short-lived. That reminds me, Valentine’s Day is coming up.
mildred st. meadowlark
Sorry, that was bold.
Andyourpointiswhatexactly?
He loves it. He’s planning a Valentine’s Day treat for you, it seems…
mildred st. meadowlark
I look forward to it. I’ll have to act surprised and i’m a real panto actor so that’ll be fun.
Andyourpointiswhatexactly?
NO. WAY!
*hand to mouth*
*eyes boggling*
*fanning tears away from eyes*
That kinda jiggerypokery?
mildred st. meadowlark
Exactly.
Actually, maybe you’d do a better job of it than me.
Ronan
Location is Albert St, part of N27 in city and main north/south axis apart from Jack Lynch Tunnel.
Good billboard location choice. They mean business
phil
There is a State Run home for Down Syndrome people in Beaufort Kerry, superb place, staff are wonderful , very well run. I worked there for a short time.
There are all sorts of ‘clients’ there , they call them clients for some reason. They range from across the spectrum, from day visitors , to permanent residents , most of the permanent residents have been dumped there by their families , they maybe get a visit once a year if lucky.
There is an area of the building called the ‘white room’ , I only visited that room once, that was my last day working there. The white room is where the most extreme clients are looked after , I should have listened to the assistant manager when she advised me not to go there, I still think of the place from time to time, but what I saw in there , well Id rather not say.
Whichever side of that poster you fall on , I would advise you to visit a place like that and talk to the staff before you go opening your mouth to offer an uneducated opinion.
BTW I personally would never judge parents who decide to get an abortion in those circumstances, and would advise anyone to get the test done whilst pregnant.
Increasing_Displacement
Anyone up for finding out what advertiser is accepting money to put up this bullpoo and shame them online?
Daisy Chainsaw
I’m not into the shaming thing as the company is only providing a space because that’s what their business is. I’m sure if Repeal had the deep pockets to bankroll that kind of campaign, supporters wouldn’t want the businesses they use attacked by antis.
bisted
…pockets don’t come much deeper than those of George Soros…
Daisy Chainsaw
And that’s public and available for all to see.
Who’s bankrolling the antichoice, ignorant DS andrex puppies billboard campaign?
Increasing_Displacement
I’d like to know who is a moral-less sack of poo who will take money to print deceit
Nigel
It’s only fair the pro-lifers sanctify the disabled in such a cynical marketing effort since the church was the cause of so much suffering inflicted on disabled children, turning them into holy martyrs.
avocado
How much does it cost to hire a billboard? $5,000 a month if it’s outside Ebbing, Missouri; how much in Dublin? Outside Dublin?
(And given that the association representing people with Down’s Syndrome has asked for references to them or images of them to be used in the referendum debate, who’s nasty enough to do it?)
That doesn’t make sense, how can you abort a baby?
Nothing those people say makes sense.
That argument has been lost dylad.
Everyone who’s had a baby, and most who haven’t, describes their baby in utero as a baby. Deal with it.
Women will have abortions newsjustin. Get over it.
As you put it yourself.
lol
or rather, Deal with it.
“Everyone who’s had a baby, and most who haven’t, describes their baby in utero as a baby. Deal with it.”
Really? Everyone?
Even those that have had an abortion?
…and those that had a miscarriage?
…and those that had epitomic pregnancies?
…and those that took the morning-after pill?
or, did you mean, “some people”?
Well that’s not true.
That’s the big question Dylad… how can you abort a baby?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y7bnauItow
When you have to resort to stupid videos to explain, you’ve lost.
…9/4 with Paddy Power that things will remain unchanged…pro-life waging a strong campaign while Repeal supporters are believing their own press releases…
Repeal supporters are stuck arguing about what large percentage of babies with Down Syndrome are aborted in other countries.
They don’t care about that as it has nothing to do with the decision.
It’s you anti-choicers who are erecting these nonsensical billboards, but yeah “Repeal supporters are stuck arguing about what large percentage of babies with Down Syndrome are aborted in other countries” . Your apparent need to post multiple comments every time repeal is mentioned is starting to show in terms of how much sense you make. Go back to trying for quality over quantity.
Are you saying these are low odds and that the 8th will stay? Repeal is 2/7. I would not back the anti choice side.
…I think the 2/7 Repeal is a symptom of the consensus that this is a foregone conclusion…the pro-life crowrd won’t change any minds but they will get their supporters out to vote…as it stands the 9/4 looks generous…
Interesting, and the summer date doesn’t suit the younger voters either.
The “summer date” hasn’t been announced yet.
250million for the NHS if Brexit was pushed through! OH wait…….
9/4 damn! I hate the fact that I have to get off my lazy bottom just to cancel out one pro lifer. To fix a situation that shouldn’t be there in the first place. And they will probably win anyway. I know a senior civil servant that does the count supervising, and I would not trust him as far as I would throw him. If tampering goes on it will be on the pro life side. (The end justifies the means to militant Christians after all) The thought of battling through campaigners from both sides on the way down to my old primary school on voting night? I’m not looking forward to it. Maybe if I get drunk first. it might be fun then. All I know is , is that Ill probably have to put a couple of grand into a private abortion fund in case my young wan gets knocked up by some fupping eejit when she’s 16 or something.
Let’s suppose for a moment that people who find that their foetus has Down’s and they don’t have access to abortion. If they are pretty sure that they cannot and will not provide the extra care necessary, where do they turn? There is no appetite among prospective adopters for babies with any kind of ongoing challenges. So what do the pro lifers propose?
Further, today Irish women will seen terminations abroad for this reason. We just have no clear idea how many. The truth is, Irish foetuses are aborted as is stands because of Down’s. The idea that this is just going to be introduced by repeal of the 8th is massively dishonest and contrary to reality.
+1
As if reality has anything to do with it.
These people never say it, but their beliefs essentially demand they have ill, dying, suicidal or distressed women tied to a bed for 9 months. It’s nationalisation of a womb. You can’t reason with people who see women as equivalent to a cell cluster.
+1
Your exaggeration is unbecoming but no doubt necessary in order to justify the “Choice” platform that in reality will allow women to destroy their own children in the womb and make the rest of us accessories to these actions.
Oh my…
Are you at Dublin Port / Airport now manfully stopping women from going to murder children?
What campaigning do you do to stop women going to England to murder Irish children?
If you really believe these are murders of Irish people, and you’re doing nothing to stop it, you’re an accessory.
But you don’t really believe that. Given the choice of saving one 2 year old child and a million fertilised embryos in a fire – you’d obviously choose the child, right?
That’s what pisses me off the most, you people don’t even believe it’s a person, you just can’t stand a woman deciding what goes on inside her own body.
Why aren’t you repealing the 13th, Sentient? That’s the amendment that permits several thousand Irish abortions a year.
+1ahj
What happened to all those babies with disabilities whose parents were told to just leave them in the hospital after they were born? It doesn’t happen now, but It was the done thing in the last century up to the 70s. Children with DS are the human equivalent of an Andrex Puppy. Antichoice don’t give the slightest damn about them, but they’re handy to exploit because they look sooooo cuuuute on a poster.
“Congenital idiots” was the phrase used in Tuam, I hear.
Oh dear.
I hope not, but I’ve funny feeling I’m going to be disappointed.
I noticed a similar big billboard on the N2 yesterday, couldn’t read it fully as I was the driver,this is an important and complex argument and referendum but I find it sad to see that different organisations are resorting to billboards to buy a persons vote.
There’s one in Inchicore too. Wonder who’s funding them?
Newsjustin is. I thought this was common knowledge?
I wish I had that kinda money.
I’d probably go the dragging a banner behind a plane or sky-writing route though. You know, pointlessly flash, noisy and short-lived. That reminds me, Valentine’s Day is coming up.
Sorry, that was bold.
He loves it. He’s planning a Valentine’s Day treat for you, it seems…
I look forward to it. I’ll have to act surprised and i’m a real panto actor so that’ll be fun.
NO. WAY!
*hand to mouth*
*eyes boggling*
*fanning tears away from eyes*
That kinda jiggerypokery?
Exactly.
Actually, maybe you’d do a better job of it than me.
Location is Albert St, part of N27 in city and main north/south axis apart from Jack Lynch Tunnel.
Good billboard location choice. They mean business
There is a State Run home for Down Syndrome people in Beaufort Kerry, superb place, staff are wonderful , very well run. I worked there for a short time.
There are all sorts of ‘clients’ there , they call them clients for some reason. They range from across the spectrum, from day visitors , to permanent residents , most of the permanent residents have been dumped there by their families , they maybe get a visit once a year if lucky.
There is an area of the building called the ‘white room’ , I only visited that room once, that was my last day working there. The white room is where the most extreme clients are looked after , I should have listened to the assistant manager when she advised me not to go there, I still think of the place from time to time, but what I saw in there , well Id rather not say.
Whichever side of that poster you fall on , I would advise you to visit a place like that and talk to the staff before you go opening your mouth to offer an uneducated opinion.
BTW I personally would never judge parents who decide to get an abortion in those circumstances, and would advise anyone to get the test done whilst pregnant.
Anyone up for finding out what advertiser is accepting money to put up this bullpoo and shame them online?
I’m not into the shaming thing as the company is only providing a space because that’s what their business is. I’m sure if Repeal had the deep pockets to bankroll that kind of campaign, supporters wouldn’t want the businesses they use attacked by antis.
…pockets don’t come much deeper than those of George Soros…
And that’s public and available for all to see.
Who’s bankrolling the antichoice, ignorant DS andrex puppies billboard campaign?
I’d like to know who is a moral-less sack of poo who will take money to print deceit
It’s only fair the pro-lifers sanctify the disabled in such a cynical marketing effort since the church was the cause of so much suffering inflicted on disabled children, turning them into holy martyrs.
How much does it cost to hire a billboard? $5,000 a month if it’s outside Ebbing, Missouri; how much in Dublin? Outside Dublin?
(And given that the association representing people with Down’s Syndrome has asked for references to them or images of them to be used in the referendum debate, who’s nasty enough to do it?)