Banba Toymaster, Mary Street, Dublin 1
Um.
Paul writes:
This post turned up on Facebook yesterday; apparently some distribution company has been slipping anti-choice/pro-life material into Toymaster’s toy catalogues….
UPDATE:
Also from the Facebook page of Banba Toymaster…
Mar Radford writes:
They must be ignoring your complaints because we just got this today…
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It happened with the ‘Galway Advertiser’ last Thursday too. The paper didn’t know about it and the booklet was not part of their distribution.
Its probably the postman who found Jesus after he lost the run of himself with the drink and cleaned himself up with the help of some Christians. Now he owes them. He’s on a mission from god.
I wonder if it was the same kind of gore they’re displaying on the streets? You have to wonder at the sickening thought process. Whatever you think, this is not a topic for children.
Jesus, that’s pretty low.
Yikes – what are people like? I guess they feel the end justifies the means, but that is messed up…
How about pictures of the actual leaflet before peoples imagination gets away with them? If its anything like the few harmless pro-life leaflets I got through my letterbox then its hardly graphic imagery going to give little Johnny nightmares.
It’s not harmless because it’s peddling lies.
lies …indeed.
how dare they campaign to vote a certain way?
how dare they?
this
and forcing a conversations on parents that may not be age appropriate in an attempt to guilt trip them and influence thier vote….trying to think of motives, makes me feel dirty
dirty trick
i wasn’t commenting on the leaflet but in daisy’s comment that it was lies.
I haven’t seen it – the stuff in my door is fairly benign
I haven’t seen the specific leaflet that was in the Toymaster catalogue so I don’t know. The pro life leaflet I got at home yesterday just had macroscopic pictures of fetus’s and the usual fact balloons about them having “fingernails at week x” etc. not exactly lies. there was also a few quotes and pictures from churchy looking old people giving their opinion about human life and whatever. Fairly boring stuff if a toddler happened to pick it up and flip through. The leaflet I got through the door a few week ago was the same thing except the pictures were cartoons instead. I’m not going to be swayed by these leaflets and if your kids are going to be , so what? They cant vote.
If it was a leaflet for Lappellos but the image was kept PG you wouldn’t be saying the same thing.
Dirty tricks by holy joes.
https://twitter.com/oceanclub/status/981304984296882176?s=19
da’ ya know wha’
that is the snakiest, most underhand and vicious election tactic I’ve ever known
and that’s saying something
surely targeting their message into the hands of children is a breach of some regulation, somewhere, anyone?
I hope the anti choice crowd get creamed on 25.Five
absolutely mortified
so much so they won’t want to leave their beds
na’mind handing around street corners with makie-uppie posters
“I hope the anti choice crowd get creamed on 25.Five”
Me too. But i’m not confident. I’ll take a yes by one vote. People will be swayed by the “poor babies” argument at the last minute.
they will. Never underestimate the “ick” factor. sigh.
but Frilly
it’s not an ordinary election/referendum to them – it’s a key battle
in a never ending war
zealots don’t quit, yes even you Frilly will comply eventually..
you’re around long enough to remember the last time…some of these people will play fair but their version of fair is winning this battle no matter what the damage
I’m amazed that anyone on here is amazed about likes of this behaviour
Repealers would want to wake up
+lots
i don’t think it’s going very well, actually
Most so called modern progressive , yet ultimately god fearing pro baptism parents wont have the stomach to get out on voting day to vote a definitive “Yes” when push comes to shove. Its organized sober religious zealots with cars versus disorganized hungover militant left students looking for bus fair on voting day. Guess who will win?
god fearing ?
fear is such a healthy tool to promote love
There are so many things wrong with your comment that I think you’d be better served just sticking your head in a bucket of gick.
Perhaps the ones that can spell “bus fare”?
I’ll never comply Martie
you can be sure of that
but for your own comfort I’m not taking this referendum opportunity for granted
A “vicious” tactic would be when you get your arm chopped off by some machete welding enforcer during an African election. Some sensitive western white kids asking mammy about what “a-bort-sum” means is hardly anything to get in a tizzy about.
and yet here you are, getting in a tizzy about it.
He seems strangely upset that people don’t want religion rammed down a childs throat.
Not really. I just see the hypocrisy between people moaning about these leaflets and panicking about what their overly sensitive kids might think. Yet at the same time all these parents went out and got their kids baptized. Its the parents that ram religion down their kids throats in the first instance, maybe they should look at themselves before projecting.
Half the country do the baptism for school places at this stage and to blend it.
The same “half” (78%) that tick “roman catholic” on the census form? Who is making them do that? They baptize there kids because they are religious. They are pro life or at the very least not getting involved in the vote either way because of conflicting feelings. You don’t need to be baptized to get into a school anyway. My kid is not baptized. My cousins kid isn’t baptized and he goes to a church run school. He got in no problem.
I don’t know how you got that impression from my post.
Well, you have the most comments on this post, so it’s obviously something you feel passionate about.
self hate much ?
depending on age it is a sensitive subject, along with sex education and death
Just because some children have horrid childhoods doesn’t mean ours don’t deserve their innocence, god knows it will be gone long enough
A boring leaflet of no interest to a kid in the first place is not taking away their innocence.
You underestimate the average 9 year olds interest in everything
oh come on , do you even remember what you were interested in when you were nine? The only thing I got upset about at that age was KITT getting blown up in Knightrider and he was rebuilt the next week anyway.
that explains a lot of your comments now
we weren’t allowed watch TV because my another thought it addled your brain
turns out she was right :)
Mother..
Do you have kids?
They want to know EVERYTHING. They eavesdrop on conversations, read everything they’re not supposed to, say things they’re not supposed to, and are curious about the world they’re growing up in.
Either way, it was an underhanded and nasty piece of work that will go a long way to pissing off a lot of parents.
yeah I do. It was about the time I was asking my ma about the birds and the bees and other uncomfortable questions. I wanted to know about EVERYTHING. Heck, my 7-year-old nephew would probably ask if he saw the leaflet, and he knows when he’s being fobbed off with a BS answer.
Sneaky, but kids can’t vote. Poor targeting.
Oh no! 9 year olds will be voting no to repealing the eighth.
Won’t somebody think of the children?!?!
no but they ask a lot of sweet questions
and get upset that thier pet mice die
and parents heartstrings get pulled
devil’s advocate and all that…
they’d probably say a catalogue of products is aimed at parents, not children – and don’t you have to be 18 to sign up to receive marketing material?
true
sure they say all kinds of lies and poo to suit thier evil ends all in the name of a ” loving” god…it makes me hopping mad
The Galway one wasn’t gore. It was pictures of a doctor and a mother and some ‘facts’. Lots of text.
You mean a person posing as a doctor and a person posing as a mother along with some “facts”.
Would this have to happen at the printing stage, at the packaging stage or at the distribution stage? Are the catalogues bagged, for instance? Are these auto-inserts done mechanically, which is what it sounds like, or inserted by hand, which would require a lot of personnel?
They are “blown” in quickly in an assembly line machine thing, I saw it on TV once, All a prolifer would have to do is switch the leaflets in the machine. The process is so fast no one would notice.
At least they didn’t try this
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fury-over-fianna-fail-slogan-on-private-mail-26054037.html
That really is low from the Anti-Abortion side.
Its the distributor who did this, nothing to do with any pro life group. Distributors always put different junk mail things in together to make it easier for the delivery person.
hey look, it’s bill the shill..
nice deflection tactic there bill. that media training iona funded is really paying off. how is it over at the journal?
What are you talking about ya Muppet. If I was from the iona institute would I call religion a fupping scam full of ladyparts. Not everyone who doesn’t agree with abortion is a religious nut.
Poor pro abortion people afraid to let their kids see what abortions are because they know even a child know its wrong to kill an unborn baby.
I wouldn’t show my kids porn either
I must be so afraid of them seeing the truth right
The world isn’t back and white Bill
It is if you’re a dog, Janet. Are you?
I just checked to see if that’s right and apparently dogs do see colour, but more muted than those which we see.
What’re you having for lunch?
I know I digress, but I’m genuinely interested.
Ah yeah I’m a right b×tch
Now onto the serious matter of lunch on this fine grey day
I intend to take a stroll down the Liffey and see if I can find a cosy spot to continue carb loading like a motherf×cker
on a mission to hit 3000 calories today
recommend anywhere ? I am presently near the memorial gardens and the swans ‘re starting to look tasty I’m so hungry
I’m not great on the north side anymore: our offices are deep southside.
Hmm. You could try that Vietnamese place up there. Hang on. Pho Viet. It’s 162 Parnell St. Have a nice slurpy bowl of noodles.
sounds like a plan maestro.. Cheers :)
It’s very basic from what I remember but delicious noodles.
It’d be good if we could see the offending leaflet. Then we could pinpoint the offensive material and the specific lies that some people say it contains.
Real classy move.
Curious that a lot of anti choice people are totally against proper sex education for children but have no problem shoving abortion images into a child’s face.
Proving the point that once a child is born, they couldn’t give a sh*t and if it was up to a large proportion on them we would be locking women up in Magdalenes again and jailing the kids in Borstals.
The good old days, huh?
You’re right. This conclusively proves that point.
This debate is over. No need to even put “No” on the ballot paper.
I know it’s important to support what you see as your side, Justin, but surely you don’t think this is suitable behaviour?
Election literature and commercial advertising gets bundled together all the time. I don’t really see a smoking gun here. I don’t think a pro life organisation (which one it’s not said), or a pro choice one for that matter, actively decides to instruct their printers and/or distributors to insert their material into a toy catalog just so kids can see it.
I could be wrong.
I’d still like to see this leaflet. To see how bad it is.
It’s all over Twitter if you want to see it. But a quick question, newsjustin: would you feel the same about gay marriage leaflets being inserted into a toy catalogue?
Of course. I’d feel that a) it was probably just a distributor thing rather than a conspiracy by gay marriage proponents and b) a leaflet promoting gay marriage is harmless.
Or how about putting Stranger Danger Health Warning leaflets into Toy Catalogues
and into school books
and in playgrounds
Warning like
Stay away from Religious Orders as they are dangerous and have Child Rapists and abusers among them
do not be left alone with a priest or a nun from the Catholic Church Orders
How about putting those posters up around the place while we’re at it
Not trying to prove any point. Maybe you are under the illusion that posts on here are anything more than a personal opinion, I am not.
Merely stating my genuinely held belief that a sizable proportion of the anti choice crowd do not give a fupp about children.
Plenty pro life people involved in St V de P, various charities eg Fr Peter McVerry, Br Kevin etc
re the UPDATE
was it not that we couldn’t introduce abortion because it would be abused by scarlet women? because now they’re saying it’s because it will be abused by abusive men. gone full circle and still two months to go
More crap from the USA.
What is it about the Pro choice side that they just cant help coming across as sneaky, slimey, underhanded and willing to to cross any line and subvert the facts just to get a win no matter what.
You mean anti-choice? slip o the tongue there :D
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Is a simpler explanation not that the distro company just lump together all the junk mail they have to give out in a certain area – in this case, without giving it a lot of thought?
I’m no fan of the pro-life junk, but I find that explanation a lot easier to buy than the idea of a Machiavellian prolifer putting the squeeze on the minimum wage red baggers to specifically put these together. All the horrified handwringing in these comments is hilarious.
Its the new bunker under the Russian embassy in rathgar
Not only have they have massive barracks a nerve gas lab but are scheming to turn the whole nation into Russians by devising to tamper with our bodily fluids
Sounds far fetched but its as far fetched as some of the pro choice crap
It’s funny because you keep saying that the pro-choice lot are doing bad things, but the people who keep getting caught or implicated in doing bad things are the pro-life crowd. Really funny, that.