44 thoughts on “De Friday Papers

  1. GiggidyGoo

    Three drafts of the memo were seen by the department of health, but not brought to the attention of the Minister. so we have a bunch of idiots supposedly governing. Varadkar notable by his absence in recent days.

    What sweetener did Daffy agree with O’Brien? Similar to his one with O’Sullivan?

    1. Topsy

      O’ Brien will have received more money by going early than if he had stayed a couple of months more & left on his due date.

  2. Sheik Yahbouti

    How wonderfully kind of Teresa May and her Government to apologise for delivering an innocent man, and his equally innocent pregnant wife, into the hands of torturers – to no good purpose and with no result. I can’t express what I feel about this owing to the…. you know yourselves.

  3. Ron

    When it first broke out, I was like ‘Okay, well, the head of the HSE is surely going to do something’, and he didn’t.

    “And then I looked to Simon Harris. I was thinking ‘Well, surely the Minister for Health is going to step in and do something’. That’s why we give these people powers, and he didn’t do anything.

    “So then I was like ‘Surely the Taoiseach is going to do something’. And he just seems to be sticking up for them … they’re all hiding there in the Dáil and they don’t see what I see.

    “The Government need to go. They’re not actually – and I’m not being insulting, it’s genuine – they’re not actually capable of minding us, and that is their job. To make sure that we’re okay.”

    “My children are going to be without me and I’m going to be without them. And I tried to do everything right and I don’t even know if my little baby is going to remember me.This is what makes it so heartbreaking. I’m dying when I don’t need to die … This isn’t fair,”

    What needs to happen in this country in order for the people to get out on the streets and mass protest? If we are serious about accountrability well then let’s start at the top of the chain of command. This Government needs to be removed now.

  4. Catherine costelloe

    Vicky Phelan has acted like a lioness protecting her cubs in standing up for all women in Ireland.
    # Respect, Vicky.
    Thank you.

  5. Brian Dead

    Fair play to Stony O’Brien for taking the rap on behalf of the lords and masters

    1. GiggidyGoo

      I doubt that this is over for those lords and masters. Varadkar ‘I wasn’t aware, but will have my office double check’ is shying away. Notice how his denial of knowledge is almost identical as O’Briens? As for Harris -a boy doing a mans job.

      Vicky and Emma have the greatest of courage in the face of the greatest adversity…the greatest adversity!

      Now compare that to Varadkar and Harris. The difference? Vicky and Emma cannot hide from their future, the other two will try shift blame, focus etc. and do their utmost to hide. Already Varadkar is hiding behind Donohue et al at Leaders Questions.

      1. Gringo

        No need to worry. The boy wonders have the best interests of women at heart. Shure they are working day and night to provide the best and safest abortions on earth.In fairness, what could go wrong?

        1. SOQ

          Please don’t try and tie these two issues together. One is the people’s will and the other is the complete opposite. Your comment is at best, tacky.

        2. Murtles

          “Gringo” Your some boy wonder yourself Richard Cranium. To link this cancer scandal to the referendum displays your unfathomable doltishness and gross failure to be a human being. Stay away from the keyboard you neanderthal until you grow up.

      2. Ron

        Genuine question. What do people think is going to happen Varadkar and Harris?? They will walk away from this unharmed and will still be relected to the Dail in the next GE. That’s the Irish way. We are a nation of keyboard warriors who express faux rage at these events and then move on to the next story.

        All this talk of how we demand accountability. Accountability starts with the electorate and if the electorate reward these MF’s every time at the polls by electing them well then we are the problem.

        The Irish people need to either hold to account at the ballot box and if we as a nation are unable to do that, well then I suggest people quit with the crocodile tears for these women.

        I find it insulting to hear people express their outrage at a system that this state has engineered and in doing so created the environment and culture that killed these women. Don’t express your outrage and then go into the secrecy of the ballot box and vote for these people.

        And if you are one of those people, at least have the decency to keep your mouth shut and not have the audacity to publicly express you stand behind these women and then go and piss on their memory by rewarding the very people that were supposed to protect them at the ballot box.

        Root Cause Analysis is as follows. The Irish electorate are responsible for these women’s deaths by electing these MF’s and allowing the culture and system they engineered to prevail.

        Start with yourself and if voting for these people sits ok on your moral compass then go right ahead and re elect them as is your choice in a functioning democracy, but don’t come on here with your crocodile tears.

        1. Cian

          First, you tell us why you think should happen to Harris, and what he has done/not done.

        2. SOQ

          I doubt if this or previous health ministers knew any anything about it until it was too late. The buck stops within the HSE with those who outsourced the labs and/or covered it up. Also, GP’s had a part to play if they did not alert their patients in a timely manner.

          Will heads roll? Probably not because to be sacked out of a state body you need to have directly killed someone, and even that is a maybe.

        3. GiggidyGoo

          “Don’t express your outrage and then go into the secrecy of the ballot box and vote for these people.”
          You can be sure of my ballot box visit will not be FFGLAB.

  6. Cian

    You missed a headline:
    Trial By Media 1 – 0 Due Process

    …there is a smell of blood in the water – watch as there are more and more calls for resignations.

    1. Tom

      It’s another manufactured controversy. Everyone getting themselves worked up in the same predictable fashion.
      Some company didn’t do the tests correctly. Ok, but now its a big political controversy with calls for resignation?

      1. mildred st. meadowlark

        It’s a bit more than that, seeing as women are dying of cancer because of this company’s failures, and the failures of the hse.

        1. Cian

          Again, I think we should wait for the report on Cervical Check. No cancer screening service anywhere in the world will catch 100% of cancers.

          Yes, Vicky is dying of cancer because of a failure of the US Lab. We don’t know if the HSE was at fault.

          We don’t know what the story is with the other 100s of women – are the Labs liable for false-negatives? or was it just not visible on their prior tests. Or was the HSE at fault. Were the labs audited by HSE?

          At the moment, the current HSE ‘scandal’ is that there was a cover-up. But if you put that into historical context you can see that HSE is moving in the right direction (albeit too slowly):
          1. the HSE has traditionally been secretive about medical failures.
          2. in 2015 HSE starts to push voluntary Open Disclosure
          3. in 2015/2016 Cervical Check compiles a list of all the cases where Open Disclosure is warranted
          4. 2016 the infamous memo talks of their compilation of said cases, and how they should approach the disclosures, and legal issues with the Labs
          5. 2016 open disclosure starts to happen (albeit badly) and (some) doctors are informed. some doctors inform their patients.

          1. Brian Dead

            In the history of trolling on this site you are the worst there’s ever been Cian

  7. Shayna

    Alex Kane in the IT has an interesting piece about Brexit and the Irish “relationship”,

    “During the Brexit debate, Ireland/ Northern Ireland barely rated a mention by the Leave or Remain campaigns. Partly because both sides never thought Leave would win. But, more importantly, because neither side (and I include the DUP) gave any particular thought to the potential impact of Leave on the Republic, on Northern Ireland or on the relationship between London and Dublin. A few weeks before the vote in June 2016, I asked a DUP politician what would happen if Leave won: “The South would be petrified and they’d be wanting out of the EU as quickly as possible. They know which side their bread is buttered.” The same question to Ukip and pro-Brexit Conservatives resulted in almost identical answers.”

    I’m certainly no political expert, but it would appear a hard border is inevitable. Inconveniently, there is no government sitting in Stormont to represent their electorate in any Brexit debates with the EU. The North voted to Remain with a 68% majority. I’d be inclined to blame David Cameron to succumbing to UKIP, and Nigel Farage with their racist rhetoric, in announcing a referendum in the first place. Iraq is Tony Blair’s legacy, Brexit is David Cameron’s.

    1. SOQ

      A hard border will see a level of civil unrest not seen even during the troubles because it tears up the GFA. To quote Bertie Ahern, the people will tear it down with their bare hands. It will create a new push towards a united Ireland supported by all nationalist parties on the Island of Ireland, including both FF and FG.

      1. Shayna

        I do recall the hard border, sitting at Newry for hours, wondering if I had anything “iffy” in the trunk (boot) like guns and such? I really don’t see a united Ireland in my lifetime – I’m a mere 51 year old, but kinda sprightly on it , anyhoos, Jeez, it’d be great, De Valera’s legacy was “The North”, he did push his mate, Michael Collins under the bus though – I’m talking about the six counties thing, not the other thing, which wasn’t that great.

        1. SOQ

          You were sitting at Newry wondering if you had left guns in the boot? That would have been a bit careless now Shayna.

          These checkpoints were useless anyways as all the minor roads were open. Complete waste of time and money.

          1. ReproBertie (SCU)

            Made getting the bus to Newry fun though with the lads in full camo wandering half heartedly down the bus looking for terrorists.

          2. Janet, I ate my Avatar

            we had a bright orange Ford fiesta ( my Da had painted it with a tin of the paint Irish rail used on the old diesels…was grand you could barely see the fiber glass repairs or the brush strokes)
            it had Irish reg and we always took the back roads going up to visit
            always remember a time a couple of lads in balaclavas stopped us asking who we were going to see and my Dad in stitches cause he recognised the lad anyway from school days little to the chaps amusement.

          3. Shayna

            What can I’s tells ye, etc. There were no guns, I went a tad hyperbolic on it… is all. I’ve lived most of my life in England, I’ve a strange accent – thanks a lot the EU. It seems that I’ve an Irish accent in London, in Dublin I’ve an English accent?
            Yes, the Newry thing will happen again. Whatwith the new road (M1) by-passing, is the new border the toll-bridge on The Boyne?

    2. ReproBertie (SCU)

      I believe a hard border will be avoided.

      May’s biggest problem is that we’re over a year into the Sasamach negotiations and Britain still hasn’t decided what Sasamach actually means. They can’t figure out if they want in or out of the customs union or if that’s what they voted for. The House of Lords just voted to stay within the customs union which resulted in the usual tabloid frenzy. If she could put a bit of smacht on Rees-Mogg and his fellow travellers maybe she could make a decision and they could start negotiating in earnest but they can’t negotiate with the EU when they don’t know what to negotiate for.

      The EU, meanwhile, are fully cognisant of the importance of cross border trade to Ireland. They are happily dismissing any magic thinking options that the British come up with and are free to do so knowing that the British are still negotiating for an outcome they can’t quite define. As time marches on the backstop of NI staying in the Customs and Regulatory union comes closer. Also the reality of a hard border, which the NI majority did not vote for, is sinking home within the unionist community to the point where they are openly questioning the value of staying within a post-Sasmach UK. It’s worth remembering that the DUP do not represent a single border constituency.

      1. SOQ

        Yeah the Unionists really are a pack animal. Despite the majority, including some of their own voting to Remain, there is not one Unionist politician arguing that NI should stay in the Customs Union. Their red line is that NI is treated the same as Britain, even if that means driving off a cliff.

        Of course the Tories are killing each other and still don’t know what they want. But the clock is ticking and the EU are tightening the thumb screws. If there is no sign of progress by end of summer then it is head between the legs time.

        1. Shayna

          @SOQ – I voted Labour in ’97, it was a, “Golden New Dawn”, my university friend awoke beside me, listening to alarm clock radio with Tony Blair announcing such . Anyhoos, her name was/is Dawn

  8. johnny

    this was then…..
    “Digicel also announced that it has signed a global partnership agreement with ZTE – a leading global provider of integrated telecommunication solutions – for an ongoing multi-year network upgrade programme.”
    https://www.digicelgroup.com/en/media/news/2017/february/22/_digicel-2030_-global-transformation-programme-begins.html

    this is now….
    “The Department of Commerce has now determined ZTE made false statements to BIS in 2016, during settlement negotiations, and 2017, during the probationary period, related to senior employee disciplinary actions the company said it was taking or had already taken. ZTE’s false statements only were reported to the U.S. Government after BIS requested information and documentation showing that employee discipline had occurred. ”
    https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-releases/2018/04/secretary-ross-announces-activation-zte-denial-order-response-repeated

    Investor roadshow-more like bankruptcy road show but where will they file ?

    1. johnny

      the collapse of Digicel’s strategic partner ZTE is absolutely devastating (ignore that eejict in the Indo),it calls into question Digi’s entire strategy- “DIGICEL 2030” GLOBAL TRANSFORMATION PROGRAMME”.
      can’t emphasize enough this is really really bad news for Digi and its bondholders, the timing is atrocious.
      DOB and the lads are all set to take the new jet to NY end month for a ‘roadshow’-if they don’t have a new strategic partner lined up by then it won’t happen.
      the spread on Digi’s bonds indicates real fear amongst investors that they may file for bankruptcy protection.

      1. rotide

        It’s heartwarming that you’re so delighted at the prospect of massive redundancies.

        1. johnny

          oh no its you again with the grand sweeping statements and no back up, all hat and no cattle..
          currently 25% as part off Digi’s and ZTE’s 2030 strategy are being laid off-look it up!
          try to read a little more you’ve become quite tiresome and a bore.

  9. johnny

    Wilbur Ross who made a few bob (all tax free ?) in Ireland with in fairness some extremely well timed bets, and a lot off help by the Quisling regime.It was quite a surprise to see (pic on twitter) Heather Humpries TD taking a meeting with him to discuss “bilateral” trade.
    Wilbur happens to be the man in charge of the US sanctions imposed on ZTE,which may kill Digicel as we know it, wiping out ALL the shareholders equity.The wreckage from this would be career ending in the bond and conventional debt markets,for the founder.
    Given that, why would an Irish minister fly to New York on her weekend, get the state to buy a table or two at his BFF”s charity event,spend the evening with him,having scheduled a meeting with Ross !
    Humphries has quite a few questions to answer regarding this ‘back channel’ !

      1. Johnny

        He’s resorted to what many would consider desperate measures,Digi has simply been a cash cow for him and it was starved off capital to upgrade,its weighted down with a way too heavy debt burden at junk level interest rates,resulting in a JV with a well dodgy Chinese firm.
        But don’t expect the National Broadcaster to cover any this,shur wasn’t one the more photogenic lunchtime “presenters” at the same gala,despite no longer covering the states,but that’s for another day!

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