Et Tu, Francis?


From top: Pope Francis; Marie Collins, a survivor of clerical child sexual abuse has criticised the Pontiff for not meeting fellow victims during his visit to Ireland later this month owing to a lack of time free in his schedule.

As the crisis in the Catholic Church deepens, Marie Collins said, the Vatican is like King Canute, thinking that by ignoring it, it will go away.

She said that by not addressing the crisis properly and by not having the pope meet survivors or speak meaningfully about the issue, particularly in Ireland where the world knows the Church has been devastated by abuse, it would just be another sign that the hierarchy is so detached from the real world that they are irrelevant.

She said the pope needs to commit to firm actions and say what he is going to do to “stop this cancer in the Church.”


Colm O’Gorman, survivor of clerical child sexual abuse

Speaking today on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, Mr O’Gorman criticised the Catholic hierarchy who he said had managed to organise their marketing, their merchandising, their licensing of the pope’s image but appear :

“not a jot of attention has been paid” to the idea of addressing the tens of thousands of people in Ireland “who have been so traumatised and harmed by the rape and abuse of children and vulnerable adults that was facilitated by, and then covered up by the Church, including the Vatican.”

Pope Francis urged to address failures to reform abuse policy (RTE)


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32 thoughts on “Et Tu, Francis?

  1. Ina.

    Can’t stand Colm ‘Progressive Democrats Candidate’ O’Gorman, but he was very good on today’s Morning Ireland.

    1. Martin bishop

      His point is 100% valid.
      They can organise so much, but they can’t do a 30min or 1hr meeting with the people most hurt by the church?

      Shows how little they care

      1. Daisy Chainsaw

        Meeting people who were raped as children wil interfere with the happy clappy good time message of this PR stunt. There’s going to be a cavalcade through the streets though. The victims can try and attract his attention there, but it will probably just look like waving.

        I hope it’s met like Haughey’s state funeral, with indifference and hardly anyone lining the streets.

    2. bisted

      …what…Bodgers mate Colm is a Soc Dem…who knew…rather, who else besides me didn’t know…

        1. bisted

          *helpful hint: Bodger…if you throw a pair of red socks in with your blue shirt it’ll turn purple before the next election…

  2. Ron

    O’Gorman is right on point in what he is saying. And every Irish citizen that goes out to support this pope is indirectly and probably intentionally giving the middle finger to every single victim in this country who has suffered at the hands of this vile disgusting evil organisation called the Catholic church. The Irish people need to get a grip of themselves and cop themselves on if they think it’s appropriate to spend taxpayers money to welcome this evil basteard to the country. is it any worry we are such a basket case when we don’t see it proper to stand up against this crap.

    1. Cian

      By that logic, anyone that went to the Bray Air Show last weekend to watch the Red Arrows is complicit in 800 years of British oppression. And anyone that watched the World Cup is supporting the Russian invasion of the Crimea.

      1. Ron

        Cian i have never met anyone as lacking as you in terms of intelligence and independent thought. and to deal with your ridiculous reply, neither of those events you describe were paid for by the taxpayer to the tune of millions.

          1. Ron

            your another one of these fools on here Rotide. What world cup are you talking about. Ireland wasn’t in it so the taxpayer didn’t find it. now sit down and cop yourself on.

      2. Brother Barnabas

        you’re being a little disingenuous, cian

        he said “giving the middle finger”, which isn’t the same as “complicit”

        and the equivalent to the pope would be the head of the british army – whatever that’s called – not the red arrows

        1. realPolithicks

          Its hardly a surprise BB, cian is the resident apologist for the establishment here on Broadsheet.

          1. millie st murderlark

            I don’t think that’s entirely fair.

            Cian strikes me as the type who values facts and dislikes hyperbolic or exaggeration to make a point. In today’s environment of #fakenews and clickbait etc, I can certainly understand the need for facts and clarity. By and large, I appreciate his contributions, but I think he may have missed the mark slightly here.

            I also suspect he works in the HSE, but that’s just me playing Sherlock.

          2. rotide

            Couldn’t agree more with Mildred here. Cian is one of the most valuable posters on this site imo

          3. Brother Barnabas

            i certainly wasn’t attacking cian (and id hope he knows that). was just making point that he wasn’t his usual precise and tight self with that comment.

          4. Nigel

            I don;t think he’s always right (then again who is?) but he definitely comes from a place of putting facts first, and actually bothering to look them up, and accepting them from others when offered. We could all do with being a bit more like Cian.

    2. ReproButina

      “probably intentionally giving the middle finger to every single victim”
      Would you give over. Most of them will be the previous generation who still believe he’s god’s representative on earth and are only delighted that they get to see him in Ireland. They certainly won’t be going to spite victims of abuse.

  3. Chris

    But there’s Pope lolly pops! Lolly pops never hurt no one (apart from choking victims and the obese).

  4. andy

    Until they finally confront all that was done in their name there will be no redemption
    The government must bring the pope to team and to hell with tact

  5. andy

    The pope must be brought to Tuam by the government to show him what is a massive gaping wound for Irish Catholics
    Without confronting the sins of the past the church cannot move on
    The ghosts of the victims will haunt this country until justice is done
    We have an opportunity to deal with this as the boss will be in ireland

  6. Pauline Mott

    Why on earth is Ireland hosting a visit by the top representative of an institution now known world wide for being a child raping cartel rather than an organization promoting religion. It is a national event that ultimately will be a two finger salute given to the unfortunate victims by people who should know better. The only turnout I would like to see would be streets lined with people who turn their backs on the cavalcade of rape enablers. Francis is just a more affable and accomplished front man for this evil empire – I don’t believe for one minute that he was anything less than fully complicit in the whole perverted enterprise.

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