Any chance this latest humiliation might encourage the Sasamachs to start treating this seriously instead of faffing about? May’s attempts to extend the backstop to cover the entire UK have been repeatedly rejected and they need to come up with something realistic or accept the back stop they agreed to in December.
ivan
Rather like Eamonn Morrissey’s character in Father Ted asking “if there’s anything to be said for another mass”, I think we can expect the British to come back in two weeks or so with Chequers again.
They’ll have changed the font, adjusted the margins and maybe chucked in some ClipArt, but that’ll be it, and the EU’s fault for “not negotiating…’
SOQ
Funny you shroud say that but brexiteers remind me of those people who used to turn up in fields to pray that statues would move, blind faith to the point of madness. Labour is set to vote that mess down in HP and it is anyone’s guess what happens then. Will the EU allow them to stay? Yes they will, but only on EU terms. Britain is heading for a constitutional crisis like we have never witnessed before.
Ollie Cromwell
Macron playing Napoleon once again and so he has to with approval ratings back home of 19% – that’s half as popular as Donald Trump.
Interestingly very little was heard from that wily old operator Frau Merkel yesterday.
The November summit is when the real wheeling and dealing will be done and yesterday was just an early skirmish.
Canada Plus will be the eventual outcome although fortunately there’s still a very good chance of a proper Brexit.
Yesterday was about show and the usual suspects on here will fall for the smoke and mirrors routine like they always do.
I’d keep your powder dry for a while yet …
Papi
Such a nice car trip! Where are we going again? Ah, never mind.
Always good for a laugh that one! Yet still, a fantastic metaphor for the week that’s in it…. Perhaps they should make Gareth Southgate PM so they can celebrate another moral victory at the hands of cheating and bally well unsporting European outfit…
Cú Chulainn
One countries’s Canada is a Union’s Norway..!! And yet either way the UK gets well and truly shafted. I’m still amazed at the self harming behaviour and the blind refusal to see what’s actually happening. The wily operator is about to win the war that has raged across Europe since the 1800’s. And GB is about to become a vassal state. Good luck enjoying that experience.
Otis Blue
Still though, it’s great to see The Daily Express maintaining a stiff upper lip through it all.
graham
A nasty little thought
If there is no brexit deal
How long can we last
Ollie Cromwell
Surely a question that should be put to Varadkar more often if Ireland didn’t have a supine media.
But Paddy likes to think he’s sticking one on the Brits.
Eventually it will dawn on him that he’s been a useful EU pawn in negotiations but by then it will be too late.
Especially when the EU27 come after the corporate tax rate.
Varadkar is a chump – Bertie Ahern would have demanded a far higher price for playing the EU game.
Cú Chulainn
Deflection won’t help you old bean. Ireland is a small country, barely greater than Manchester in size, we have learnt to roll with it. We know what our worth is and have proven time and again how to get the best deal possible. Something GB is going to have to learn to do. How are those marvellous trade deal negotiations going btw. Not long now.
stephen
And without a deal and a hard border negotiations will start for Ireland bailout
Corporate tax will be the price for the life support machine to be kept on ensuring our public sector is just kept in the clover they are used to
Classic
The photo yesterday of Camelot had someone missing and that was little Leo chief Irish KAPO
I see Ollie going to be barred again
stephen
If Boris gets in the EU will be dealing with a hard brexit and what about the backstop?
ReproButina
I don’t believe the tea boy has the support within the parliamentary party to take over as leader.
The UK talking about No Deal is incredibly stupid. It’s “give us what we want or we’ll shoot ourselves” level of stupid. Sadly Sasamachs see people pointing out reality as some sort of threat.
Papi
It’s like the stiff upper lip syndrome has spread to their decision making abilities.
ReproButina
A simple example was the open skies thing. Leo mentioned it, though he wasn’t the only one, and suddenly the story was him threatening to ban British planes from Irish airspace and how the Brits would show him.
Of course, the truth of the matter was that without EU approved inspections the planes would not be permitted in EU airspace. Not a threat, a simple truth. Not project fear, just project fíor.
Ollie Cromwell
The last time I looked Lufthansa were selling flights into UK airspace for April next year and beyond.
You’re speaking out of your hoop.
ReproButina
And here’s Ollie to prove my point. Instead of looking into the detail he treats it as an attack and goes all defensive, tossing out insults.
This is old news but anyway:
“Under current aviation rules, the European Union Open Skies Agreement allows EU member airlines, including those registered in the UK, to operate in each other’s countries.
But [Sasamach] is set to remove those flying rights from UK-operated airlines, so a deal is an urgent priority for the aviation industry, and ultimately the business travel sector and wider economy.”
And when the UK is out that also is the same game the UK can play that the spec is not approved by the UK standards
Bertie
Have you a screw loose
Just think of all those EU flights to and from crossing UK airspace
ReproButina
It’s not a game you moron! It’s not a threat. That’s my whole point. It’s the reality of Sasamach but rather than discuss the possible solutions or the steps being taken to prevent the problem all you’re interested in is trying to score internet points.
It’d be nice to actually discuss Sasamach but doing so would require someone intelligent and informed on the Sasamach side. Sadly all we have is Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber talking about KAPOs and Frau Merkel and other childish garbage.
stephen
So you wave your magic wand and may goes or replaced by another seeking compromise
How silly you are
Big stakes are here and the brexiteers will harden their stance
All along I have stated anything that the UK come up with will not be acceptable
The only thing the EU will accept is the UK destroyed
The Brits can exist outside the EU
We on the other hand without the UK in the EU face disaster
Its getting dirtier and if its not sorted the UK can turn around and say no backstop no deal
So how about that scenario
The photo yesterday of Camelot showed varadka missing
Now we know why?
We are insignificant to the EU
Its time our leadership woke up to the massive disaster approaching us
We pay 10 billion interest on our debt each year thanks to the weak willed quilting governments
We cannot afford another crash
Ever wonder why services cannot be delivered and our health housing etc is so underfunded?
ReproButina
Soooooo much stupid.
david the EU is not trying to destroy the UK. The EU is trying to protect the EU from the UK’s self destruction.
Leo Varadkar was in the photo. One idiot makes a joke about an empty chair and you take it as fact.
stephen
Bertie we will now see
May has now asked the EU to propose what they regard a solution
She has called the EU to show its hand
Its looking pretty grim for us
Ollie is right
They are using us as a pawn
Time will tell
If May goes and hardliners take her place eg Boris then it will be no deal and no backstop
The British will never allow the north to be isolated from the rest of the union
If you ever lived in the UK you would realise this
And the queen will never permit her nation to be surrendered in part
ReproButina
Wise up david. It’s always worst case scenario with you. May’s meaningless statement is aimed at her party ahead of their conference. She has to look tough. Once the conference is over she’ll come crawling back agreeing to whatever the EU wants.
stephen
Bertie all along I have been right
Latest rejection
Its a dangerous game that’s being played
The UK can just walk if they want and what do you think the EU could do? Try to Invade like Hitler did in 1939
We all know exactly how that panned out
Remember life exists out of the EU
But we are screwed if Britain goes out without a deal with dire consequences
So bury your head in the sand
Mays speech has now called the EUs bluff
The balls in their court to come up with a solution that is suitable for them
Tick tock and remember backstop is another point and that cannot be at the sea for that in reality is the annexation of northern Ireland from the UK and that will never happen
And if there is a border British troops will be back patrolling their border
ReproButina
Utterly ludicrous post. You’ve not been right once.
The problem with calling the EU’s bluff is the EU aren’t bluffing. They’re still saying the same stuff they’ve been saying from day one.
May agreed to the backstop. The problem is she wants to extend it to the whole of the UK and the EU won’t agree to that, which they told her in December.
And would you ever give WWII a rest. It ended 73 years ago FFS. The world has moved on, maybe you should join us.
Brother Barnabas
“Bertie all along I have been right”
if there’s one thing we can’t deny, david, it’s that
Ollie Cromwell
YouGov polled 2,000 women and asked if they would sleep with Boris Johnson.
3% said no – the other 97% said never again.
Good man Boris.Still the most popular Tory politician in Britain.
Write him off at your peril.
scottser
just the man to lead you into your brexit future; a man child who thinks with his mickey and talks through his hole, in a sort of ‘his men would follow him everywhere, if only out of a sense of morbid curiousity’ way.
seriously, i actually would love to see johnson or mogg as next pm as it would lead to a more prosperous and united ireland. all we have to do is ship the DUP window-lickers off to the isle of man where they can establish all the creationist schools and abortion-free hospitals they want, and ban homosexuality, catholicism and climate-change science to their bigoted hearts’ content. the bonfires will be amazing. pip pip old chap
Ollie Cromwell
Of course Irish politicians are whiter than white.
Charlie Haughey fooled an entire nation of dunces by owning a Palladian mansion,an island,a yacht,racehorses and a whole lot of other fraudulent baubles on a mere public servant’s salary.
Then there was Bertie Ahern – a minister of finance who didn’t have a bank account.That raised a few laughs around Europe.
And who could forget Brian Cowen, leading his country by example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRZvERI5nf8
Good times.
Brother Barnabas
“That raised a few laughs around Europe.”
any idea what europe’s laughing at now?
Ollie Cromwell
39 billion reasons why it’s hollow laughter …
stephen
Much like drunken jean Claude Junker filmed at the Latvian summit bitch slapping leaders and comparing ties
One up on Leo with his socks
Google it he can hardly stand and makes Yeltsin look like a pioneer
scottser
ah ollie, lets just agree to go our separate ways. it’s going to be just marvellous us both rolling around in the filth of our own creation. and while we both might say ‘ i don’t fancy yours much’, at least we both know there won’t be any winners in our respective race to the bottom.
tally ho old bean.
Ollie Cromwell
I reckon a country whose GDP equals that of 21 of the other 27 EU countries combined is going to fare a lot better post-Brexit that a minnow like Ireland wouldn’t you think ?
Thanks in no small part to all those clever,hard-working Irish people who have decided their future is better off in the UK.
Marvellous,what ?
millie st murderlark
So that’s a no then.
Something about empty vessels and noise comes to mind.
Cú Chulainn
Keep working on those trade deals.. you’re going to need them. Ha ha..!!
Nigel
Seriously, you have SO MUCH more to lose it’s not even funny.
Ollie Cromwell
Don’t you worry lovey – the UK is made of sterner stuff than little ol’ Ireland.
We won’t fill our pants as you did over Lisbon 2 and our economy is in robust health with huge amounts of inward investment from foreign companies confident of Blighty’s future.
So don’t you worry your silly little noggin.
But thanks for your concern anway.
Cú Chulainn
You’re a country that can’t even manage to feed itself.. in the event of a no deal the GB will pay the WTO tax gap and we will continue to feed you.. poor things..
Nigel
We’re such minnows our opinions shouldn’t matter to you at all. Toodle-oo!
SOQ
Part of Ireland is in the UK old bean and the largest party is by your own description the northern equivalent of the Healy-Raes.
I have a question for Vassena et al. How come trolls are only a bad thing when they are offending you? Double standards much?
stephen
As our country takes the pee out of may they forget she is trying to get a moderate deal
As time creeps on a harder approach is going to happen
Her biggest card is the back stop
If Britain refuses to agree one then we as a nation is well and truly screwed
And that could happen so we better pray the tea boy is not the modern day Churchill during the UKs darkest hour
scottser
No backstop, border poll, united ireland. Id give it 10 years at a push.
Any chance this latest humiliation might encourage the Sasamachs to start treating this seriously instead of faffing about? May’s attempts to extend the backstop to cover the entire UK have been repeatedly rejected and they need to come up with something realistic or accept the back stop they agreed to in December.
Rather like Eamonn Morrissey’s character in Father Ted asking “if there’s anything to be said for another mass”, I think we can expect the British to come back in two weeks or so with Chequers again.
They’ll have changed the font, adjusted the margins and maybe chucked in some ClipArt, but that’ll be it, and the EU’s fault for “not negotiating…’
Funny you shroud say that but brexiteers remind me of those people who used to turn up in fields to pray that statues would move, blind faith to the point of madness. Labour is set to vote that mess down in HP and it is anyone’s guess what happens then. Will the EU allow them to stay? Yes they will, but only on EU terms. Britain is heading for a constitutional crisis like we have never witnessed before.
Macron playing Napoleon once again and so he has to with approval ratings back home of 19% – that’s half as popular as Donald Trump.
Interestingly very little was heard from that wily old operator Frau Merkel yesterday.
The November summit is when the real wheeling and dealing will be done and yesterday was just an early skirmish.
Canada Plus will be the eventual outcome although fortunately there’s still a very good chance of a proper Brexit.
Yesterday was about show and the usual suspects on here will fall for the smoke and mirrors routine like they always do.
I’d keep your powder dry for a while yet …
Such a nice car trip! Where are we going again? Ah, never mind.
https://youtu.be/PqZTP8-8wIs
Always good for a laugh that one! Yet still, a fantastic metaphor for the week that’s in it…. Perhaps they should make Gareth Southgate PM so they can celebrate another moral victory at the hands of cheating and bally well unsporting European outfit…
One countries’s Canada is a Union’s Norway..!! And yet either way the UK gets well and truly shafted. I’m still amazed at the self harming behaviour and the blind refusal to see what’s actually happening. The wily operator is about to win the war that has raged across Europe since the 1800’s. And GB is about to become a vassal state. Good luck enjoying that experience.
Still though, it’s great to see The Daily Express maintaining a stiff upper lip through it all.
A nasty little thought
If there is no brexit deal
How long can we last
Surely a question that should be put to Varadkar more often if Ireland didn’t have a supine media.
But Paddy likes to think he’s sticking one on the Brits.
Eventually it will dawn on him that he’s been a useful EU pawn in negotiations but by then it will be too late.
Especially when the EU27 come after the corporate tax rate.
Varadkar is a chump – Bertie Ahern would have demanded a far higher price for playing the EU game.
Deflection won’t help you old bean. Ireland is a small country, barely greater than Manchester in size, we have learnt to roll with it. We know what our worth is and have proven time and again how to get the best deal possible. Something GB is going to have to learn to do. How are those marvellous trade deal negotiations going btw. Not long now.
And without a deal and a hard border negotiations will start for Ireland bailout
Corporate tax will be the price for the life support machine to be kept on ensuring our public sector is just kept in the clover they are used to
Classic
The photo yesterday of Camelot had someone missing and that was little Leo chief Irish KAPO
I see Ollie going to be barred again
If Boris gets in the EU will be dealing with a hard brexit and what about the backstop?
I don’t believe the tea boy has the support within the parliamentary party to take over as leader.
The UK talking about No Deal is incredibly stupid. It’s “give us what we want or we’ll shoot ourselves” level of stupid. Sadly Sasamachs see people pointing out reality as some sort of threat.
It’s like the stiff upper lip syndrome has spread to their decision making abilities.
A simple example was the open skies thing. Leo mentioned it, though he wasn’t the only one, and suddenly the story was him threatening to ban British planes from Irish airspace and how the Brits would show him.
Of course, the truth of the matter was that without EU approved inspections the planes would not be permitted in EU airspace. Not a threat, a simple truth. Not project fear, just project fíor.
The last time I looked Lufthansa were selling flights into UK airspace for April next year and beyond.
You’re speaking out of your hoop.
And here’s Ollie to prove my point. Instead of looking into the detail he treats it as an attack and goes all defensive, tossing out insults.
This is old news but anyway:
“Under current aviation rules, the European Union Open Skies Agreement allows EU member airlines, including those registered in the UK, to operate in each other’s countries.
But [Sasamach] is set to remove those flying rights from UK-operated airlines, so a deal is an urgent priority for the aviation industry, and ultimately the business travel sector and wider economy.”
https://www.raconteur.net/business-innovation/airlines-skies-open-brexit
And when the UK is out that also is the same game the UK can play that the spec is not approved by the UK standards
Bertie
Have you a screw loose
Just think of all those EU flights to and from crossing UK airspace
It’s not a game you moron! It’s not a threat. That’s my whole point. It’s the reality of Sasamach but rather than discuss the possible solutions or the steps being taken to prevent the problem all you’re interested in is trying to score internet points.
It’d be nice to actually discuss Sasamach but doing so would require someone intelligent and informed on the Sasamach side. Sadly all we have is Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber talking about KAPOs and Frau Merkel and other childish garbage.
So you wave your magic wand and may goes or replaced by another seeking compromise
How silly you are
Big stakes are here and the brexiteers will harden their stance
All along I have stated anything that the UK come up with will not be acceptable
The only thing the EU will accept is the UK destroyed
The Brits can exist outside the EU
We on the other hand without the UK in the EU face disaster
Its getting dirtier and if its not sorted the UK can turn around and say no backstop no deal
So how about that scenario
The photo yesterday of Camelot showed varadka missing
Now we know why?
We are insignificant to the EU
Its time our leadership woke up to the massive disaster approaching us
We pay 10 billion interest on our debt each year thanks to the weak willed quilting governments
We cannot afford another crash
Ever wonder why services cannot be delivered and our health housing etc is so underfunded?
Soooooo much stupid.
david the EU is not trying to destroy the UK. The EU is trying to protect the EU from the UK’s self destruction.
Leo Varadkar was in the photo. One idiot makes a joke about an empty chair and you take it as fact.
Bertie we will now see
May has now asked the EU to propose what they regard a solution
She has called the EU to show its hand
Its looking pretty grim for us
Ollie is right
They are using us as a pawn
Time will tell
If May goes and hardliners take her place eg Boris then it will be no deal and no backstop
The British will never allow the north to be isolated from the rest of the union
If you ever lived in the UK you would realise this
And the queen will never permit her nation to be surrendered in part
Wise up david. It’s always worst case scenario with you. May’s meaningless statement is aimed at her party ahead of their conference. She has to look tough. Once the conference is over she’ll come crawling back agreeing to whatever the EU wants.
Bertie all along I have been right
Latest rejection
Its a dangerous game that’s being played
The UK can just walk if they want and what do you think the EU could do? Try to Invade like Hitler did in 1939
We all know exactly how that panned out
Remember life exists out of the EU
But we are screwed if Britain goes out without a deal with dire consequences
So bury your head in the sand
Mays speech has now called the EUs bluff
The balls in their court to come up with a solution that is suitable for them
Tick tock and remember backstop is another point and that cannot be at the sea for that in reality is the annexation of northern Ireland from the UK and that will never happen
And if there is a border British troops will be back patrolling their border
Utterly ludicrous post. You’ve not been right once.
The problem with calling the EU’s bluff is the EU aren’t bluffing. They’re still saying the same stuff they’ve been saying from day one.
May agreed to the backstop. The problem is she wants to extend it to the whole of the UK and the EU won’t agree to that, which they told her in December.
And would you ever give WWII a rest. It ended 73 years ago FFS. The world has moved on, maybe you should join us.
“Bertie all along I have been right”
if there’s one thing we can’t deny, david, it’s that
YouGov polled 2,000 women and asked if they would sleep with Boris Johnson.
3% said no – the other 97% said never again.
Good man Boris.Still the most popular Tory politician in Britain.
Write him off at your peril.
just the man to lead you into your brexit future; a man child who thinks with his mickey and talks through his hole, in a sort of ‘his men would follow him everywhere, if only out of a sense of morbid curiousity’ way.
seriously, i actually would love to see johnson or mogg as next pm as it would lead to a more prosperous and united ireland. all we have to do is ship the DUP window-lickers off to the isle of man where they can establish all the creationist schools and abortion-free hospitals they want, and ban homosexuality, catholicism and climate-change science to their bigoted hearts’ content. the bonfires will be amazing. pip pip old chap
Of course Irish politicians are whiter than white.
Charlie Haughey fooled an entire nation of dunces by owning a Palladian mansion,an island,a yacht,racehorses and a whole lot of other fraudulent baubles on a mere public servant’s salary.
Then there was Bertie Ahern – a minister of finance who didn’t have a bank account.That raised a few laughs around Europe.
And who could forget Brian Cowen, leading his country by example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRZvERI5nf8
Good times.
“That raised a few laughs around Europe.”
any idea what europe’s laughing at now?
39 billion reasons why it’s hollow laughter …
Much like drunken jean Claude Junker filmed at the Latvian summit bitch slapping leaders and comparing ties
One up on Leo with his socks
Google it he can hardly stand and makes Yeltsin look like a pioneer
ah ollie, lets just agree to go our separate ways. it’s going to be just marvellous us both rolling around in the filth of our own creation. and while we both might say ‘ i don’t fancy yours much’, at least we both know there won’t be any winners in our respective race to the bottom.
tally ho old bean.
I reckon a country whose GDP equals that of 21 of the other 27 EU countries combined is going to fare a lot better post-Brexit that a minnow like Ireland wouldn’t you think ?
Thanks in no small part to all those clever,hard-working Irish people who have decided their future is better off in the UK.
Marvellous,what ?
So that’s a no then.
Something about empty vessels and noise comes to mind.
Keep working on those trade deals.. you’re going to need them. Ha ha..!!
Seriously, you have SO MUCH more to lose it’s not even funny.
Don’t you worry lovey – the UK is made of sterner stuff than little ol’ Ireland.
We won’t fill our pants as you did over Lisbon 2 and our economy is in robust health with huge amounts of inward investment from foreign companies confident of Blighty’s future.
So don’t you worry your silly little noggin.
But thanks for your concern anway.
You’re a country that can’t even manage to feed itself.. in the event of a no deal the GB will pay the WTO tax gap and we will continue to feed you.. poor things..
We’re such minnows our opinions shouldn’t matter to you at all. Toodle-oo!
Part of Ireland is in the UK old bean and the largest party is by your own description the northern equivalent of the Healy-Raes.
I have a question for Vassena et al. How come trolls are only a bad thing when they are offending you? Double standards much?
As our country takes the pee out of may they forget she is trying to get a moderate deal
As time creeps on a harder approach is going to happen
Her biggest card is the back stop
If Britain refuses to agree one then we as a nation is well and truly screwed
And that could happen so we better pray the tea boy is not the modern day Churchill during the UKs darkest hour
No backstop, border poll, united ireland. Id give it 10 years at a push.