Hallow’ Victory

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Taoiseach Leo Varadkar and Minister of State for European Affairs Helen McEntee in brussels yesterday

Brexit: Trick or treat? 31 October Halloween deadline is both (BBC)

22 thoughts on “Hallow’ Victory

  1. SOQ

    I predict that the EU elections are going to completely change the dynamics of Brexit.

    The now majority of remain will be out in force and impossible to ignore.

  2. kellMA

    do i have this right? Extension but no reopening of the agreement. So the UK is only kicking the can down the road of crashing out on no deal unless TM is going to have a 100th meaningful vote to try and get them to take the deal? It is like pulling teeth.

    1. ReproBertie

      That is correct. If they vote to approve the deal before May 23rd they are out immediately so it’s the hard line Sasamachs that are delaying Sasamach.

      If they don’t run EU elections on May 23rd they are out, without a deal, on June 1st.

  3. Ollie

    The EU has yet again proven to be weak. Time for all Countries to leave a broken and dysfunctional organisation

    1. ReproBertie

      LOL!

      The EU has held firm for the last 2 years despite repeated warnings that Ireland would be abandoned and the EU would do a deal because the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU. Now they’re giving the UK more time to get their house in order before leaving and you say this is weakness?

      1. dav

        It’s the brexiter mind-set, ignore reality and hate people of different colour and/or creed

        1. ReproBertie

          Protecting a member state is weakness? Kicking the UK out would have a negative impact on an EU member so the EU are happy to allow the UK more time to get themselves sorted.

  4. Panty Christ

    Great Britain will re-enter the eu project via the cat-flap with tail between the legs

    1. Dan

      Why would they rejoin?
      They are going to maintain trade deal without having to accept thousands of immigrants and without contributing financially to the EU.
      Win win for them

      1. dav

        only way get get to maintain the trade deal is to follow EU rules and no longer have a say in the making of such rules – pretty much a loss for them

          1. Dan

            Ah yes Germany who break the eu rules every year by running a larger budget surplus than the rules allow.
            Like I said, weak EU kowtowing to UK.
            There are only 2 solutions to the border issue:
            Free trade with UK or hard border.
            I reckon the next 7 months will be used to implement a hard border.

          2. ReproBertie

            You reckon the UK will spend the next 7 months destroying the NI agrifood industry?

            I’ve never before come across a definition of kowtow that meant sent someone home with their tail between their legs.

      2. edalicious

        Most of the UK’s immigrants are from outside the EU so they can easily resolve that without leaving the EU.

        1. Qwerty123

          Not true at all, almost 1million polish for example, more than Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi immigrants combined.

          1. ReproBertie

            Immigration figures for the year ending September 2018:
            EU – 202,000
            Non-EU – 340,000

          2. ReproBertie

            While Poland has overtaken India as the most common country of birth of people living in the UK who were born outside the UK the 2011 census (last available) showed 1,451, 862 British citizens with ancestral roots in India, 1,174,983 British citizens with ancestral roots in Pakistan and 451,529 British citizens with ancestral roots in Bangladesh.

          3. Qwerty123

            I was referring to total, not a particular year. Your second point is irrelevant, all of those are British.

            Also, Poland overtaking over an ex colony and commonwealth country of over a billion is pretty significant from one eastern European country of approx 40 million.

          4. Qwerty123

            Back at my desk.

            Section 6 – approx 1.2 million more EU v Non EU

            https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/ukpopulationbycountryofbirthandnationality/2017#what-is-the-nationality-of-non-uk-born-residents

            Also:

            “Since reporting began in 2004, the non-UK populations (non-UK born and non-British nationals) of the UK have increased year-on-year as more non-UK people continue to come to the UK to live than move to live abroad for a year or more.

            The non-UK born population in July 2017 to June 2018 (9.4 million) was similar to July 2016 to June 2017 (9.3 million), and the same was seen for the non-British population, which was 6.2 million in July 2017 to June 2018, compared with 6.1 million the previous year.

            The increase in non-UK populations in the last few years has been largely accounted for by EU populations, particularly the EU2, with those born in Romania, or with Romanian nationality, seeing the largest increases.

            Poland remains the most common non-UK country of birth, taking over from India in 2015 (which reflected longer-term migration trends); Polish has been the most common non-British nationality in the UK since 2007.

            In 2017, there were 3.7 million people resident in the UK who were born abroad and held British nationality – people born outside the EU are more likely to hold British nationality than those born in the EU.”

            Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/ukpopulationbycountryofbirthandnationality/july2017tojune2018

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