The Kriegel family had to go through the horror of losing their daughter and now they’ll have to go through having her life splayed across the front pages and titilating forensic detail as to how she died. I’m broken hearted for them.
Cú Chulainn
An an absolute shame on them. It is abhorrent to sensationalise this terrible thing tragedy.
eoin
It’s worse than the Jamie Bulger killing in the UK, horrible.
Rob_G
Agree 100% – the Irish Daily Mail are vultures of the highest order, shame on them.
Dub Spot
It’s tough enough to *read the details in one go. I had to stop. It’s deeply upsetting on so many levels.
I think the most respectful thing can do here for Ana and family is be kind to each other rather than argue over the story. And not say anything about ongoing court matters.
GiggidyGoo
You’re correct. I turned off the news yesterday before the item came on, and won’t be reading any articles.
Janet, I ate my avatar
nicely said Dub Spot
Spaghetti Hoop
My deepest sympathy is will the girl’s family, but this important trial is current affairs and I for one wish to follow it. If we have a society where children are accused of murdering children and justice is not seen to be done, the story is hushed and brushed under the carpet – then that is not a just and fair society. Crime is nasty, but it needs to be dealt with.
The coverage does not and should not impact the outcome of the case. There are far more respectful ways to follow the case than getting your update from rags trying to make a cent IMO.
Spaghetti Hoop
I listen to RTE 1 radio, Pat Kenny on Newstalk* and I read the digital version of the IT. That all okay with you, Yep?
*Court correspondent Frank Greaney was particularly professional in his reporting of the Belfast Rape Trial.
If people are enraged about the tabloids and their insensitivity, then stop buying them!
Look at the Daily Mail. That’s my point. Have a great day.
millie st murderlark
The Mail are a byword for scum. Today’s front page is no exception. They’ve outdone themselves.
Janet, I ate my avatar
yeah but some dignity from the baser papers wouldn’t hurt
Andrew
+ 1 Spaghetti Hoop. At least one adult in the room. The whole thing is horrible but reporting it should not be sanitized. Society needs to read about this in all its unpleasantness. People need to know what their kids may be capable of and society needs to have a serious conversation with itself with regard to the issues raised in this case.
Cian
I agree this needs to be reported and the details not sanitized.
However it should *not* be sensationalised.
GiggidyGoo
The front page of The Daily Telegraph tell us that Ministers fear that PM is preparing to ‘sign of on’ a Customs Union…..
Sign of the times. Three journalists credited with the story, and not one of them spotted the spelling mistake.
Concerned Citizen
The last time the three journalists would have seen it would have seen when it was filed. Until it was published.
GiggidyGoo
But surely they would have filed electronically? And do editors, copy editors etc. not need to be qualified.
Concerned Citizen
Yeah, they would have filed the copy. But someone else wrote the sub-heading, as you said: a sub-editor or someone more senior given, it’s the front page. Still, a howler.
The Old Boy
According to Private Eye reportage over the last few years, the staff of the Telegraph has been completely hollowed out since 2015. Sub-editors have been among the worst hit by the cuts and many articles are now going to print with cursory sub-editing, if any at all.
Janet, I ate my avatar
any excuse to get a half naked fit fella to sell your papers…sighs disapproving
SOQ
*raises eyebrow*
Janet, I ate my avatar
only an eyebrow ;)
eoin
Yep, the Gilet Jaunes know what they need to do. Forget the burning barricades, the amputated limbs and lost eyes, the tens of thousands protesting every week – none of that gets them any frontpages and Irish media studiously ignores them. What the Gilet Jaunes need do is lose the gilets, march bare-chested and become the Culottes Jaunes, then they might get a few headlines.
Janet, I ate my avatar
sure they barely have the shirt on their backs thanks to government favouring the elite,
SOQ
Looks like a wee kitchen sink drama going on in the DUP about their first openly gay candidate.
Mick Clifford responds to yesterday’s news that an unspecified sum [IMO, millions, maybe €10m+ including legal costs] has been expended by the Department of Justice (Garda Siochana) and Department of Children (Tusla) to compensate the McCabes for their outrageous treatment of that family. While the taxpayer is picking up the bill for others’ shameful actions, Mick writes
“Judges, leading politicians, the current commissioner, have all lauded his service and the effect that it might have on the reform of An Garda Síochána.
This opinion is widely shared among the public, many of whom remain disturbed at what he and his family have suffered.
“There are others who cling to embers of discontent. A small number of individuals in politics, policing, and the media will still try to tell you that McCabe is a bad ’un.
They can’t accept that they got it so wrong back in the days when they bought into the notion that this turbulent sergeant was either mad or bad.
Their continued denial should be warning enough to the rest of us that there could easily be another Maurice McCabe, sometime in the future, or even out there right now.”
Another quiet night in Ireland’s Juarez but if you listen carefully, you’ll hear the local FG TD Fergus O’Dowd doing his best Basil Fawlty impression, responding to complaints as if the lack of resourcing and inability of Gardai to deal with the drug trade and violence has nothing whatsoever to do with him. You’d think constituents would be entitled to complain to their political representative, but you’d coming away thinking it’s Fergus doing all the complaining.
Fergus even says the violence is down to a recovering economy which is fuelling the demand for drugs! Keep the recovery going Fergus, you’ll be out on your rear end next general election.
eoin
Record homeless figures published yesterday hardly merit a mention on the front pages of our papers, it really has been normalised. Nearly 4,000 children in hotels, B&Bs, hostels and so-called “family hubs” which have echoes of poorhouses. The cost of accommodating every single one of these people is more than the cost of a traditional home – a house or an apartment. The government has abandoned any target for reducing homelessness, the best they can say is “zero” but no timeframe. They also claim it’s unconstitutional to stop evictions though the government has had no problem previously interfering with property rights when it suited them. This thundering disgrace of governance – the waste of taxpayer money and the misery and social cost of confining so many in rooms, the lack of targets and lack of action – is unprecedented in Ireland.How much longer can it be permitted to continue?
eoin
Plenty of column inches about the acquisition by Mediahuis (a name that will have been unfamiliar to 99% of Irish journos before yesterday morning) of INM.
No word on how Mediahuis is financing the deal.
No word on the approval process for the acquisition, but Richard Bruton will have a role.
Little analysis on why Mediahuis is buying a pig in a poke with all the potential for litigation against INM by thousands of people whose data was hacked.
Not a mention about the chairman of Mediahuis being the chairman of KBC, the bank behind a string of controversial evictions in Ireland and which still has a problematic loanbook to resolve
Little analysis of the value of INM, with €25m current annual profit, €80m of cash in its balance sheet, is €146m a good price?
That is interesting for a country you’d expect to avoid waste.
Of course we also have abandoned homes in Ireland but it would make too much sense for the State to investigate why the homes are abandoned and to bring them back into use.
johnny
Morning Eoin,grabbing my coffee getting ready for Barr do you have a slice humble pie handy for Bodger:)
Regarding Japan,yeah im fascinated by the place, cracking down on Airbnb contributed somewhat but demographics a major factor.
“The number of rooms currently registered with the JTA is still only about 20% of the 62,000 homes listed on Airbnb just before the new law hit the market. Airbnb was forced to remove nearly 80% of its listings because hosts had not registered with the local government; thousands of users saw their existing bookings canceled.”
“The strict rules were designed to protect Japan’s hotel industry, says Takayuki Miyajima, a senior economist at Mizuho Research Institute. The regulations cap the time owners can rent out their homes to 180 days a year. The private lodgings are also subject to local regulations, which can vary from place to place. In the city of Kyoto, for example, hosts can operate only from mid-January to mid-March.”
The Kriegel family had to go through the horror of losing their daughter and now they’ll have to go through having her life splayed across the front pages and titilating forensic detail as to how she died. I’m broken hearted for them.
An an absolute shame on them. It is abhorrent to sensationalise this terrible thing tragedy.
It’s worse than the Jamie Bulger killing in the UK, horrible.
Agree 100% – the Irish Daily Mail are vultures of the highest order, shame on them.
It’s tough enough to *read the details in one go. I had to stop. It’s deeply upsetting on so many levels.
I think the most respectful thing can do here for Ana and family is be kind to each other rather than argue over the story. And not say anything about ongoing court matters.
You’re correct. I turned off the news yesterday before the item came on, and won’t be reading any articles.
nicely said Dub Spot
My deepest sympathy is will the girl’s family, but this important trial is current affairs and I for one wish to follow it. If we have a society where children are accused of murdering children and justice is not seen to be done, the story is hushed and brushed under the carpet – then that is not a just and fair society. Crime is nasty, but it needs to be dealt with.
The coverage does not and should not impact the outcome of the case. There are far more respectful ways to follow the case than getting your update from rags trying to make a cent IMO.
I listen to RTE 1 radio, Pat Kenny on Newstalk* and I read the digital version of the IT. That all okay with you, Yep?
*Court correspondent Frank Greaney was particularly professional in his reporting of the Belfast Rape Trial.
If people are enraged about the tabloids and their insensitivity, then stop buying them!
Look at the Daily Mail. That’s my point. Have a great day.
The Mail are a byword for scum. Today’s front page is no exception. They’ve outdone themselves.
yeah but some dignity from the baser papers wouldn’t hurt
+ 1 Spaghetti Hoop. At least one adult in the room. The whole thing is horrible but reporting it should not be sanitized. Society needs to read about this in all its unpleasantness. People need to know what their kids may be capable of and society needs to have a serious conversation with itself with regard to the issues raised in this case.
I agree this needs to be reported and the details not sanitized.
However it should *not* be sensationalised.
The front page of The Daily Telegraph tell us that Ministers fear that PM is preparing to ‘sign of on’ a Customs Union…..
Sign of the times. Three journalists credited with the story, and not one of them spotted the spelling mistake.
The last time the three journalists would have seen it would have seen when it was filed. Until it was published.
But surely they would have filed electronically? And do editors, copy editors etc. not need to be qualified.
Yeah, they would have filed the copy. But someone else wrote the sub-heading, as you said: a sub-editor or someone more senior given, it’s the front page. Still, a howler.
According to Private Eye reportage over the last few years, the staff of the Telegraph has been completely hollowed out since 2015. Sub-editors have been among the worst hit by the cuts and many articles are now going to print with cursory sub-editing, if any at all.
any excuse to get a half naked fit fella to sell your papers…sighs disapproving
*raises eyebrow*
only an eyebrow ;)
Yep, the Gilet Jaunes know what they need to do. Forget the burning barricades, the amputated limbs and lost eyes, the tens of thousands protesting every week – none of that gets them any frontpages and Irish media studiously ignores them. What the Gilet Jaunes need do is lose the gilets, march bare-chested and become the Culottes Jaunes, then they might get a few headlines.
sure they barely have the shirt on their backs thanks to government favouring the elite,
Looks like a wee kitchen sink drama going on in the DUP about their first openly gay candidate.
http://www.irishnews.com/news/localelection2019/2019/05/01/news/-not-in-my-name-dup-councillor-hits-out-at-party-running-gay-election-candidate-1609626/
Sorry folks
I just do not have the stomach for these papers
Let me know when this murder trail is over
Ta. V
Name the school where she had to put up with the relentless bullying, who is the principal?
Ah Jaysus E
You’re never done disclosing an’ posting stuff
You do it
Obviously out in Lucan somewhere
Mick Clifford responds to yesterday’s news that an unspecified sum [IMO, millions, maybe €10m+ including legal costs] has been expended by the Department of Justice (Garda Siochana) and Department of Children (Tusla) to compensate the McCabes for their outrageous treatment of that family. While the taxpayer is picking up the bill for others’ shameful actions, Mick writes
“Judges, leading politicians, the current commissioner, have all lauded his service and the effect that it might have on the reform of An Garda Síochána.
This opinion is widely shared among the public, many of whom remain disturbed at what he and his family have suffered.
“There are others who cling to embers of discontent. A small number of individuals in politics, policing, and the media will still try to tell you that McCabe is a bad ’un.
They can’t accept that they got it so wrong back in the days when they bought into the notion that this turbulent sergeant was either mad or bad.
Their continued denial should be warning enough to the rest of us that there could easily be another Maurice McCabe, sometime in the future, or even out there right now.”
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/justice-for-the-man-who-took-on-the-law-921146.html
Frances Fitzgerald has no shame whatsoever.
Another quiet night in Ireland’s Juarez but if you listen carefully, you’ll hear the local FG TD Fergus O’Dowd doing his best Basil Fawlty impression, responding to complaints as if the lack of resourcing and inability of Gardai to deal with the drug trade and violence has nothing whatsoever to do with him. You’d think constituents would be entitled to complain to their political representative, but you’d coming away thinking it’s Fergus doing all the complaining.
Fergus even says the violence is down to a recovering economy which is fuelling the demand for drugs! Keep the recovery going Fergus, you’ll be out on your rear end next general election.
Record homeless figures published yesterday hardly merit a mention on the front pages of our papers, it really has been normalised. Nearly 4,000 children in hotels, B&Bs, hostels and so-called “family hubs” which have echoes of poorhouses. The cost of accommodating every single one of these people is more than the cost of a traditional home – a house or an apartment. The government has abandoned any target for reducing homelessness, the best they can say is “zero” but no timeframe. They also claim it’s unconstitutional to stop evictions though the government has had no problem previously interfering with property rights when it suited them. This thundering disgrace of governance – the waste of taxpayer money and the misery and social cost of confining so many in rooms, the lack of targets and lack of action – is unprecedented in Ireland.How much longer can it be permitted to continue?
Plenty of column inches about the acquisition by Mediahuis (a name that will have been unfamiliar to 99% of Irish journos before yesterday morning) of INM.
No word on how Mediahuis is financing the deal.
No word on the approval process for the acquisition, but Richard Bruton will have a role.
Little analysis on why Mediahuis is buying a pig in a poke with all the potential for litigation against INM by thousands of people whose data was hacked.
Not a mention about the chairman of Mediahuis being the chairman of KBC, the bank behind a string of controversial evictions in Ireland and which still has a problematic loanbook to resolve
Little analysis of the value of INM, with €25m current annual profit, €80m of cash in its balance sheet, is €146m a good price?
Barr before senate this morning,explosive new information about the AG misrepresenting Mullers findings,revealed late yesterday-link here.
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/the-department-of-justices-investigation-of-russian-interference-with-the-2016-presidential-election
Barr statement for hearing this morning,
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5984170-AG-Barr-Written-Statement-for-the-Record-to.html
Muller letter.
https://games-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/72509902-0d00-41e8-9795-908605cdcc03/note/d644607b-38f4-4b89-9408-a25e25c588a4.pdf#page=1
Glad to see the protester is keeping himself well hydrated.
I read the Japanese newspapers,excellent coverage of Ghosn story,and the contrast with empty houses/housing there fascinates me.
‘The number of abandoned homes hit a record high of 8.46 million as of Oct. 1, rising by 260,000 over five years, government data showed Friday.‘
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/04/26/national/number-abandoned-homes-japan-edges-record-high-nearly-8-5-million/#.XMlu2YopDxw
Of absolutely no relevance whatsoever,but fascinating story and background,may have been covered by Irish media.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/05/asia/japan-vacant-akiya-ghost-homes/index.html
That is interesting for a country you’d expect to avoid waste.
Of course we also have abandoned homes in Ireland but it would make too much sense for the State to investigate why the homes are abandoned and to bring them back into use.
Morning Eoin,grabbing my coffee getting ready for Barr do you have a slice humble pie handy for Bodger:)
Regarding Japan,yeah im fascinated by the place, cracking down on Airbnb contributed somewhat but demographics a major factor.
“The number of rooms currently registered with the JTA is still only about 20% of the 62,000 homes listed on Airbnb just before the new law hit the market. Airbnb was forced to remove nearly 80% of its listings because hosts had not registered with the local government; thousands of users saw their existing bookings canceled.”
“The strict rules were designed to protect Japan’s hotel industry, says Takayuki Miyajima, a senior economist at Mizuho Research Institute. The regulations cap the time owners can rent out their homes to 180 days a year. The private lodgings are also subject to local regulations, which can vary from place to place. In the city of Kyoto, for example, hosts can operate only from mid-January to mid-March.”
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Cover-Story/Airbnb-begins-to-recover-in-Japan-a-year-after-crackdown