Anyone considering purchasing a copy of the Mail today, remember this is the sort of xenophobic, racist fare it serves up to its mostly British audience.
“I’m also led to believe that Steve Barclay, who is staying on as Brexit Secretary, has been to Dublin and read the riot act to pipsqueak Irish Prime Minister Lenny Verruca, reminding him on which side of his bread he’ll find the Kerrygold. As a consequence, Verruca is coming under serious pressure at home to stop playing silly beggars on the so-called backstop.”
For some reason you left out the remaining sentence of the paragraph. I wonder why.
” If he continues to be Michel Barnier’s stooge, the southern portion of the Emerald Isle is facing certain economic ruin.”
He’s right, of course.
Brother Barnabas
is this the same richard littlejohn who was a well established reputation for having no fupping clue what he’s talk in about? (as well as plagiarism, racism, homophobia, misogyny and all-round ar seholeness)
or a different one perhaps?
Charger Salmons
Woke Bingo full house.
Daisy Chainsaw
Poor Dick Tinypenis. Never got over that name, did he.
scooperman
lol
some old quare
The first rule of propaganda is to personalise then demonise the leader of the opposing side- try to make them appear as weak and ineffectual as possible- and that is exactly what is happening right now.
It really doesn’t matter if it is Leo or Micheál or Mary Lou- the same strategy would be applied. I notice that they haven’t tackled Simon yet- but they will- along with painting the rest of us as thick spuds.
DUP saying to tone down the megaphone diplomacy? Back n the day, Big Ian never needed a megaphone of course.
B9Com From No
In one way I’m pleased you wade through that toxic bilge for us Eoin so that we don’t have to
In another way
Sad to hear about the Earl of Yarmouth “and his pregnant wife” (she must have not got her own name yet)
Daisy Chainsaw
She’s fulfilled her duty, she doesn’t need a name.
B9Com From No
Now now hold your horses
She’s merely a brood mare for the moment
eoin
The SBP (it is TOO a real newspaper, it has an editor now and everything) goes large on Maria Bailey this week in a line-drawn-under sort of way. Lots of cars and houses. Very little business.
Roisin Burke reveals the Irish League of Credit Union people spent €60,000 on a junket to the Bahamas, (using credit union money, which no doubt, they’ll claim was correctly spent for training).
Peter O’Dwyer reveals “Broadband bidder [the sole bidder after all the others dropped out, the bidder who had secret meetings with the decision-making minister who agreed to allow the bidder engage Denis O’Brien at the last minute without affecting the bid, the sole bidder for a government contract which was supposed to cost €500m but is now being talked about at €5bn] met department 300-plus times in three years”
Barry Whyte reports ChildFund Ireland which received millions from the state has “had its latest funding by the state frozen over governance issues”.
Lucinda Creighton lobbies for something or other, Tony O’Brien does likewise. Couldn’t be bothered to read and find out what though.
V
Wrong
The Irish League of Credit Unions is using its own funds
Nor is it a Credit Union
Credit Union / Cooperative Finance people from all over the world attend
Most are volunteers
Good luck trying to find a State Board or an Irish Bank director to do anything or go anywhere voluntary
That latter, as you know are subject to Central Bank Regs and RMPs as well as Governance Compliance etcs
And so are Credit Union Volunteer Directors – down to the same Fitness and Probity and MCC requirements, as well as mandatory cpds; Including Pre-Control Function (PCF) requirements
How many of these Voluntary Boards of Directors needed a Tax payer bail out?
Not a single one
Not one Credit Union in Ireland has cost the Irish Taxpayer a single cent
Of the 8 ILCU directors in that ILCU Delegation, all 8 are also voluntary directors in their own Credit Unions
The Cost is in fact 36k, and any Board I’m a member of does not treat their accounts as glibly as you tried to gas light above
That snide uppity remark there Eoin doesn’t become you
There is almost 19 billion in member assets held in Credit Unions affiliated with the ILCU
I think for a bunch of volunteers we do a good job.
And, while I’m not looking for your respect, or indeed the SBPs, there is a courtesy we entitled to whether ye like it or not.
We are all directors of regulated Financial Institutions, and we do it on behalf of our respective common bonds, be they community or industrial; and to promote a wider cooperative society.
It would be a far more interesting story for Roisin Burke to pester Pascal Donohue about his intended Credit Union Levy, and the Banking lobby Interests – a former colleague of his, that might have encouraged its introduction
This levey btw
Has the capacity to force smaller and more rural Credit Unions to close down.
And only for the ILCU’s SPA fund many already would have.
It is a Tax on Volunteerism and the Cooperative Ethos, while Taxpayer Bail-Out’ed retail banks pay their own Directors – maybe even from the earnings they get from Credit Union Business, ie. Negative Interest rates on our members cash.
For your information, since we you won’t read it the Sunday Business Post, or any other Main Stream publication Credit Unions are required to maintain a far greater liquidity reserve that your own Bank But hey: they need the income to pay their Director upwards of 65k a year per head.
But don’t let hard news and facts get in the way of gossipy sniping about Credit Unions and junkets that cost 60k
There is a determined move to mock and ridicule Cooperative Banking, and those of us that work for free to maintain it and strengthen it.
And Eoin you just took the soup.
As a side note, as well as a disclosure. I am one of the 8 in that delegation.
I am self employed and have taken the week out of my practice to represent the Irish Credit Union movement.
Feel free to mock and gawp lads
I have nothing to hide
Someone is doing the Banks dirty work here lads
And I can tell ye
It’s not the ILCU or The wider Credit Union movement
Tune into @CU_VanessaForan and or @Vanessa_Foran and watch me fly the Irish Flag later today while ye get to spend yere Sunday with family friends etc
B9Com From No
damn! I was sure you were in Bundoran
V
Oppps
It must be my sun cream squelchy fingers here
It’s SPS (and not SPA) Fund
Just to add, the ILCU delegation isn’t the only group of Paddys here
A number of other CUs have sent people as well
One of which is an Irish Credit Union that happens to be bigger than PTSB
And more profitable for its members, and more compliant
Than that same Bank is for its shareholders and customers
You’ll find no tracker or over charging scandals in an Irish Credit Union
Oh yeah
There will be a number of Credit Unions here (mainly US ones) that are bigger than AIB and BoI
Before I head off to the beach to get a few hours in before the official opening ceremonies
(And Roisin this is what I would be doing at home anyway)
Yes I will be having a drink, and a laugh, and hopefully some dancing too; again all normal activity for me.
This is behaviour member credit unions were well aware of when they voted me onto the Board of the ILCU
Ok lads. There is man here that wants to buy me a drink in a coconut. Talk later
bisted
…years ago I did a stint (3 years) as a volunteer director with my local Credit Union. As Treasurer, I had to justify the tiny expenses incurred sending delegates to the annual League of Credit Union Conference…mind you, I did get to visit exotic locations like Derry, Waterford and Salthill…
Lilly
Don’t knock Salthill, a great spot. I hope you went to Leisureland.
BobbyJ
It is one giant car park, nothing to write home about
V
That role was knocked out by the Central Bank when they took over as the Regulator Bisto
The new Act introduced mandatory Internal Audit
Which wasn’t a bad thing
But they should have allowed the function to run parallel until CUs were all up and running in compliance with the new Act
That why you had some CUs falling foul of the Central Bank
CUs needed a bit more time and support
But we’re all nearly there
FOR THE RECORD: ar no stage were members money at risk in any Credit Union in Ireland
Nor the Irish Tax Payer put upon
Remember that when yere throwing stones
And sniggering along with the SBP
bisted
…to be honest V, I found that my role was token…in the end I found that the power lay with a few individuals who were more influenced by the crozier than by the Central Bank…it was, and is , a great co-operative movement though and I’m really glad that a few people like you have made it past the celestial ceiling…
V
Slowly but surely Honey
I’ve done away with the invocation my own CU
(I do invite any other director to feel free to say it before I call the meeting to order – nobody brothers cept for one old school CU person who is known to be late anyway)
And at our own AGM Nobody Noticed or said a word
Things have changed since the commencement of the CU Act. For the better imo
But all cooperative entities are required to constantly change and flex in order to stay loyal to the ethos anyway
And just for the record. In case anyone is snooping.
Three of the days here in the Conference Complex are at my own expense.
eoin
Such a small world, V! I didn’t know you were associated with ILCU, but I see you’re a director.
What sort of body is it? Is it an incorporated body? Is there an ILCU annual report with accounts and notes? I see references to “associated companies”- DACs,a limited company and a foundation.
When I say the trip was funded by credit unions, presumably all of the expenses of the ILCU are funded by credit unions, presumably there are subscriptions or whatever for member credit unions which fund their representative body, the ILCU. Apols if that is wrong.
I think credit union members will be interested to know where these conferences are taking place. And the Bahamas, like it or not, sounds incredibly exotic and at €7,500 a head (?, €60k/8?) is certainly newsworthy and, in my opinion, eyebrow raising.Point taken about the voluntary effort, but volunteerism doesn’t obviate transparency.
Anyway, none of this is worthy of your time when you’re away. But, it would be interesting to hear from you when you’re back. Meanwhile, I hope you enjoy yourself.
V
Of course there is a a report and it is presented to the members at AGM
Annually
As well as the annual reports for other ILCU entities
ECCU and the Foundation for instance
That AGM is an open forum and members are well aware of the WACCU Conference which just happens to be hosted by the Carribbean Federation of Credit Unions this year.
Eff all out of everyone slagging us off today when it was held here in Ireland.
And Wrong again Eoin. It is 36k not 60k as you sought repeat
ILCU income comes from a number of sources
Subs and affiliation fees
Rental income, CULearn income etc
And all declared
I will personally see to it that you are an observer at the next AGM (April 2020 in Belfast)
Yeah we are an All Ireland organisation
And like all the member Credit Unions we are also incorporated, and independently audited
Rather than take the soup Eoin, go and volunteer in your own Credit Union
And please
Give us the courtesy of repeating the truth and not what is in the SBP
And of you are really that honest – answer me this
Why dig into this, and spray questions about the ILCU income and accounts, as well as cast aspersion about the recording of transactions, and ignore what I flagged about Pascal Donohue’s penal levy on CUs and the special interests it serves?
Same goes for anyone reading this or the SBP today
Now
Ye don’t really get to complain about paid directors of State Boards and Irish Banks, Bailouts and tracker scandals anymore do ye?
Is that where ye all want to be?
eoin
Hi V, just for the record, I had no idea that this story in the SBP was about you personally. The first line of the story, “Credit union board members and partners head to Paradise Island, The ILCU, which represents some 240 credit unions around the country and is financed by its members, said the trip would cost in the region of €60,000” was what I was originally commenting on above. I see that you’ve stated the cost is €36,000.
When you get back, would you be able to provide the name of the ILCU (incorporated, limited, DAC, CLG, Unlimited?) entity of which you are a director?
Meantime, I hope it’s enjoyable and professionally constructive for you.
PS, I don’t do AGMs unless legally required to, the occasional creditors meeting is enough for me ;-)
some old quare
I have no time for Credit Unions- gossip central- just stick your financial business in the front window.
But what really bothers me is the ugly buildings- in some cases 2 story plate glass in rural towns- was there even planning permission granted?
V
Ask them yourself
some old quare
Naa- i lost interest after they demanded smokers move because their precious little ones wanted to have lunch outside the local hotel.. Amazing how much such a small community could save mind – defies logic actually.
V
To avoid further insinuation
That 36k is the cost for the ILCU directors attending
Which this article targeted
And doesn’t include other representatives and delegates and speakers
eoin
Does anyone know if the “Patricia O’Sullivan Lacy” who Eoghan Murphy has just appointed to the Residential Tenancies Board is the same POSL who was once company secretary at the troubled National Irish Bank and NIB Financial Services?
eoin
Hundreds of homes and businesses in the west of Ireland lose broadband after thieves cut cables [in order to disable the alarm on a service station they were robbing]
Just look at the photo though. That is what the €5 billion national broadband plan boils down to. A hole in the ground and a few wires. That’s what’s costing sooooo much money [now that Denis O’Brien and the Boston hedge fund are in charge of it].
Charger Salmons
First opinion poll out gives the expected Boris bounce.
Labour are terrified.
Boris is the most recognisable politician across all demographics and they’re stuck with an old, grey Marxist whose social life consists of tending to courgettes on his allotment.
Boris as PM is a game-changer simply because for the first time in three years someone has actually taken a decision.
Voters like decisive action.
Brother Barnabas
when britain needed a statesmen, it got a showman
heh x3
Charger Salmons
You mean a statesman like Leo Varadkar.
Or Leo Who ?
As the rest of the world knows him.
Boris is box office. He has the EU cacking themselves.
Brother Barnabas
no, I don’t mean like leo varadkar
he has the EU cacking themselves? If a massive eye-roll indicates cacking themselves, then yes
boris will be back on the after-dinner speech circuit before christmas
Charger Salmons
Is this like your prediction that the England v Ireland cricket match would be all over on the first day ?
You’ve started on the San Miguel early on the Costa del Expat.
Brother Barnabas
and I wasn’t wrong, was I?
Charger Salmons
Only by a day and a half.
But I’ll leave you off.
We’re all guilty of rash predictions in sport.
Brother Barnabas
you’re a good man, charger
Stan
No he doesn’t.
bisted
…oh John Bercow…
B9Com From No
Hey! I tend to courgettes on my allotment!
V
Now now Charage
Margin of error works both ways,
And for every party subject to the poll
So, Boris’s Johnsons and Jeremy’s Corbinettes could so actually be neck and neck
But don’t let me stop you from Charging on
Ron
The lies from Maria Bailey just keep coming.
Ms Bailey publicly said she sought €7,000 from the hotel to cover medical costs incurred from her fall in 2015.
The real truth is that Ms Bailey wrote to the hotel seeking €20,000 in compensation after she fell from a swing while holding a bottle of beer and reaching for a bottle of wine.
In any properly functioning democracy she would no longer be a TD. But the impotent Irish electorate have form on rewarding TD’s for such scams. Watch her get relected.
What is it about the Irish and their inability to take any of these people to task? The subservient Irish people, always waiting to be told what to do by politicians, the Brits and the Catholic Church. The holy trinity.
GiggidyGoo
So was that information part of what Varadkar considered too much information for us plebs?. What will emerge about JoeB?
martco
oh please please let the cctv get leaked!
around GE time preferably :)
napier
Mind you if she would of attended the wedding of the fair city actress she could of partnered Leo and he would of not appeared so lonely
Papi
HAVE X 3 david, come on!
GiggidyGoo
I see Shane Ross got sent on his merry empty-handed way by the FAI. Pat Hickey also gave him the two fingers, and rumour is that Hickey had a secret meeting with Kevin Mulvey recently – to re-establish himself as Olympic Ticketmeister?
No garda station in Stepaside either.
Minister for buffer zone for the boys Varadkar, Harris and Murphy. Nothing else.
B9Com From No
Minister for Sport is such a meaningless portfolio anyway
It should be better given to a former high profile sports person or administrator, like John Treacy than some politico
bisted
…you mightn’t like it but that’s how representative democracies are supposed to work…
B9Com From No
I just think it’s a pointless position bisted
A literal layer of BS
eoin
While the focus is on the FAI, our problem as taxpayers should be with Sport Ireland. The Sindo today reports “ODCE slams Sport Ireland on FAI probe, Corporate watchdog says State body lacks an understanding of ongoing soccer inquiry”
The chain of command for the €3m grant that is given to the FAI each year is
Taxpayer -> Shane Ross -> Sport Ireland -> FAI
It is for Sport Ireland to decide what grant is given to the FAI and we pay Sport Ireland €5m a year to divvy out €60m of grants [taxpayer money] to sports bodies. Frankly, I think they’re useless and we could save ourselves €5m a year by disbanding them.
The goal-hanging flag-magnet Shane Ross can’t help himself, he has to inject himself into the FAI affairs because that gives him profile. In truth, it’s Sport Ireland which should be ensuring our money is safe and well-spent and according to the Sindo, it is Sport Ireland which isn’t doing a great job.
While Shane Ross doesn’t have a direct role with the FAI, he does with Sport Ireland. Why isn’t he calling for heads there instead of appointing the likes of Kieran Mulvey to the board.
B9Com From No
it’s a fair point Eoin
Worth following up
V
Ha!
Nothing to see here
Move on quick
Johnny Green
WaPo after litigation got its hands on the federal databank of who made these lethal and highly addictive drugs,two the biggest suppliers and pushers are headquartered in…..
‘It attributes the vast majority of the 76 billion opioid pills produced and shipped from 2006 through 2012 to three companies that are now controlled by large multinational drugmakers: SpecGx, a subsidiary of Ireland-based Mallinckrodt; Par Pharmaceutical, owned by Endo Pharmaceuticals, also in Ireland; and Actavis, part of Israel-based Teva Pharmaceutical Industries.‘
They’re tackling the (prescription) opioid crisis in the US and UK. In Ireland, we still have our heads in the sand.
Interesting article Johnny, How many people have heard of “Ireland-based Mallinckrodt”
Johnny Green
Morning Eoin,given the amount litigation ongoing you will probably be hearing a lot more about them,on a lighter note,FT weekend has deep dive into weed and fashion,just finishing up a piece on U.K. weed and Brexit for Tuesday.
“I just want it all to hurry up. It’s really frustrating,” says Chelsea Leyland. The 31-year-old British-born DJ, model and activist is on her way back from the Glastonbury music festival. And she’s talking about cannabis, or, more specifically, medical cannabis legislation in the UK.’
Mallincrodt have (had) a manufacturing plant in Athlone. Many changes of ownership since the 90s. Covidien is the current name in think. Covidien – Also in Tullamore, where Sherwood Medical were bought by TYCO, in turn bought by Medtronic and Covidien also part of the changes.
You have to watch the goings on with these pharma companies. All getting grants from us, and then change name, and get more grants. Or threaten to close. Similar to Bausch Lomb in Waterford. It’s a quagmire, these IDA companies.
some old quare
The struggle for LGBT equality: Pride meets prejudice in Poland
I commented on Bialystok before but this a interesting piece. The final paragraph includes-
But the church’s authority is collapsing, leaving nationalists and conservatives terrified that their country will go the way of Ireland and adopt a “new morality” rooted in the language of diversity and human rights.
So there you have it- Ireland is something to be afraid of- lets see if feel they same after their own church scandals hit the headlines. Any Polish people I know here are the first to draw comparisons between Ireland of 30 years ago and back home now- which is why they are here.
We’ve grown tired of waiting for your non existent explanation for how convicted paedophile Beech was framed.
Man On Fire
Misinformed moron cites Barry Egan and quotes bojo fanboi charger..
Yea well done
Man On Fire
What was alleged Beech victim Harvey Proctor arrested for as an mp?
What did the police find in Proctors house when they raided it in 2015?
Why weren’t these items mentioned in the trial?
Has alleged Beech victim Leon Britton been accused previously of sexual offences against minors?
Has alleged Beech victim Greville Janner been previously accused of sexual offences against minors?
Why did Lord Brammel lie under oath when he made the claim that he did not know Janner?
Was alleged Beech victim Ted Heath separately accused of sexual offences against minors?
All those victim millionaire’s, eh Warden..
B9Com From No
That’s it? A litany or well hashed “accusations” against Tory “millionaires” is the extent of the thesis that Beech was framed?
Answer the question- how was Beech framed?
Man On Fire
What was Proctor arrested for as a tory mp?
What was found in Proctors house when the police raided it in 2015 on foot of Beechs allegations?
Were Heath, Janner and Britton involved in separate allegations previous to Beechs allegations, of child sexual abuse?
B9Com From No
Not one word you wrote there explains how a fraudulent criminal prosecution against Beech was mounted or how he was “framed”
Not even a syllable
Man On Fire
Proctor was an alleged victim, Janner was an alleged victim, Heath was an alleged victim.
Lord Brammel lied under oath.
What was found in Proctors house when the police raided it on foot of beechs allegations?
What was Proctor convicted of when he was a Tory mp?
B9Com From No
not one word you’ve written here so far
Established on a factual basis your claim
Man On Fire
I don’t need to establish on a factual basis, all I have to do is cast doubt.
Lies under oath and evidence withheld means a bunk trial.
B9Com From No
Daniel Janner QC – whose late father, the Labour peer Lord Janner, was also falsely accused by Beech – told the court: “It is impossible to get over the hurt which such ghastly alleged acts of violence have on a law-abiding family like mine. They are corrosive. They lie on the internet with ignorant people saying that there is no smoke without fire.
Man On Fire
Is this the same Greville Janner whose house was raided 4 times by the police and was brought in for questioning 4 times, accused by separate individuals?
The same Greville Janner who is the subject of an ongoing child sexual abuse inquiry in the UK?
He was the subject of three police investigations over more than 20 years, none of which led to prosecution.
– Just how many times do you think a person should stand trial? Is it over and over again, even in death, until the prosecution delivers the result YOU think is desirable?
You are a fascist – nothing more, nothing less.
Man On Fire
So Cyril Smith and Jimmy Savile were also innocent just because the intelligence services scuppered any proper investigation of them, yea!?
And if Janner is so innocent how come he’s still part of the child abuse inquiry defendants, even after his death..
Try harder..
Lilly
Darn, did we get deleted Millie? You’ll have to answer me in Morse code.
millie st murderlark
Yikes. Modded out of it. Sorry Lilly! Meet me under the fancy lamppost down the road. You know the spot.
Suffice to say, for personal reasons, I have a low personal opinion of her for something which happened a good number of years ago. So, to read between the lines, I hold a grudge like a bitch.
Charger Salmons
Dear Leo,
Welcome to the new order.
Cheers old sport,
Charger.
Britain’s unelected teaboy Taoiseach putting off making the phone call that will show his bluster about the backstop to be nothing but hot air.
Tick tick, Sasamach.
GiggidyGoo
Isn’t it normal for other country leaders to phone a new one to do the congratulations? Has Varadkar phoned Johnson yet?
ReproBertie
You’re trying to turn an article about Bojo the clown not picking up the phone to Leo into somehow being Leo’s fault?
GiggidyGoo
If Varadkar cannot show basic courtesy and phone Johnson to wish him well soon after he was elected, and chooses to tweet something instead, you hardly expect him to be near the top of the queue for a phone call from Johnson. Tweets aren’t diplomacy and varadkar is just being put in his place.
Government and politics by tweet is cowardice.
Charger Salmons
Indeed.
Varadkar really is clueless at this stage chuntering on about a united Ireland when really he should be spelling out exactly what this country has planned in the event of a No Deal on October 31st.
I’d say the short answer is very little.
ReproBertie
So you are trying to make it Leo’s fault. LOL!
GiggidyGoo
Jeez Repro. Hard to get through to you. Why would Johnson phone Varadkar?
ReproBertie
You’d better ask Ollie Chargers there. He seems to think the lack of a phone call is somehow significant.
Charger Salmons
I think it’s safe to say Boris is only really concerned with speaking to leaders who have any real say in the matter.
Trump,Merkel and Macron are the real players.
Poor old Macron has troubles of his own with the ongoing yellow vest protests and the Donald cranking up a trade war.
And Merkel is a shaking shadow of her former self.
Boris has hit the ground running.
Varadkar’s popularity is plummeting as Ireland finally wakes up to reality.
ReproBertie
I’d say it’s safe to say Bojo is still struggling with the pronunciation of Varadkar.
bisted
…I’m not a great one for giving credit to politicos of any flavour…but…it’s a great relief to hear a unanimous voice in the Dail state that they will not stand idly by in the event of a no deal brexit…pity it’s not going to happen…
I have no time for Credit Unions- gossip central- just stick your financial business in the front window.
But what really bothers me is the ugly buildings- in some cases 2 high story plate glass among normal rows in rural towns- was there even planning permission granted?
this gave me a chuckle in fairness. Russiagate July 2019. The jig’s up
https://twitter.com/QTRResearch/status/1155256052335751169
https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1154100510879731712?s=09
Anyone considering purchasing a copy of the Mail today, remember this is the sort of xenophobic, racist fare it serves up to its mostly British audience.
“I’m also led to believe that Steve Barclay, who is staying on as Brexit Secretary, has been to Dublin and read the riot act to pipsqueak Irish Prime Minister Lenny Verruca, reminding him on which side of his bread he’ll find the Kerrygold. As a consequence, Verruca is coming under serious pressure at home to stop playing silly beggars on the so-called backstop.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7287815/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Never-mind-Boris-Brexit.html
For some reason you left out the remaining sentence of the paragraph. I wonder why.
” If he continues to be Michel Barnier’s stooge, the southern portion of the Emerald Isle is facing certain economic ruin.”
He’s right, of course.
is this the same richard littlejohn who was a well established reputation for having no fupping clue what he’s talk in about? (as well as plagiarism, racism, homophobia, misogyny and all-round ar seholeness)
or a different one perhaps?
Woke Bingo full house.
Poor Dick Tinypenis. Never got over that name, did he.
lol
The first rule of propaganda is to personalise then demonise the leader of the opposing side- try to make them appear as weak and ineffectual as possible- and that is exactly what is happening right now.
It really doesn’t matter if it is Leo or Micheál or Mary Lou- the same strategy would be applied. I notice that they haven’t tackled Simon yet- but they will- along with painting the rest of us as thick spuds.
DUP saying to tone down the megaphone diplomacy? Back n the day, Big Ian never needed a megaphone of course.
In one way I’m pleased you wade through that toxic bilge for us Eoin so that we don’t have to
In another way
Sad to hear about the Earl of Yarmouth “and his pregnant wife” (she must have not got her own name yet)
She’s fulfilled her duty, she doesn’t need a name.
Now now hold your horses
She’s merely a brood mare for the moment
The SBP (it is TOO a real newspaper, it has an editor now and everything) goes large on Maria Bailey this week in a line-drawn-under sort of way. Lots of cars and houses. Very little business.
Roisin Burke reveals the Irish League of Credit Union people spent €60,000 on a junket to the Bahamas, (using credit union money, which no doubt, they’ll claim was correctly spent for training).
Peter O’Dwyer reveals “Broadband bidder [the sole bidder after all the others dropped out, the bidder who had secret meetings with the decision-making minister who agreed to allow the bidder engage Denis O’Brien at the last minute without affecting the bid, the sole bidder for a government contract which was supposed to cost €500m but is now being talked about at €5bn] met department 300-plus times in three years”
Barry Whyte reports ChildFund Ireland which received millions from the state has “had its latest funding by the state frozen over governance issues”.
Lucinda Creighton lobbies for something or other, Tony O’Brien does likewise. Couldn’t be bothered to read and find out what though.
Wrong
The Irish League of Credit Unions is using its own funds
Nor is it a Credit Union
Credit Union / Cooperative Finance people from all over the world attend
Most are volunteers
Good luck trying to find a State Board or an Irish Bank director to do anything or go anywhere voluntary
That latter, as you know are subject to Central Bank Regs and RMPs as well as Governance Compliance etcs
And so are Credit Union Volunteer Directors – down to the same Fitness and Probity and MCC requirements, as well as mandatory cpds; Including Pre-Control Function (PCF) requirements
How many of these Voluntary Boards of Directors needed a Tax payer bail out?
Not a single one
Not one Credit Union in Ireland has cost the Irish Taxpayer a single cent
Of the 8 ILCU directors in that ILCU Delegation, all 8 are also voluntary directors in their own Credit Unions
The Cost is in fact 36k, and any Board I’m a member of does not treat their accounts as glibly as you tried to gas light above
That snide uppity remark there Eoin doesn’t become you
There is almost 19 billion in member assets held in Credit Unions affiliated with the ILCU
I think for a bunch of volunteers we do a good job.
And, while I’m not looking for your respect, or indeed the SBPs, there is a courtesy we entitled to whether ye like it or not.
We are all directors of regulated Financial Institutions, and we do it on behalf of our respective common bonds, be they community or industrial; and to promote a wider cooperative society.
It would be a far more interesting story for Roisin Burke to pester Pascal Donohue about his intended Credit Union Levy, and the Banking lobby Interests – a former colleague of his, that might have encouraged its introduction
This levey btw
Has the capacity to force smaller and more rural Credit Unions to close down.
And only for the ILCU’s SPA fund many already would have.
It is a Tax on Volunteerism and the Cooperative Ethos, while Taxpayer Bail-Out’ed retail banks pay their own Directors – maybe even from the earnings they get from Credit Union Business, ie. Negative Interest rates on our members cash.
For your information, since we you won’t read it the Sunday Business Post, or any other Main Stream publication Credit Unions are required to maintain a far greater liquidity reserve that your own Bank But hey: they need the income to pay their Director upwards of 65k a year per head.
But don’t let hard news and facts get in the way of gossipy sniping about Credit Unions and junkets that cost 60k
There is a determined move to mock and ridicule Cooperative Banking, and those of us that work for free to maintain it and strengthen it.
And Eoin you just took the soup.
As a side note, as well as a disclosure. I am one of the 8 in that delegation.
I am self employed and have taken the week out of my practice to represent the Irish Credit Union movement.
Feel free to mock and gawp lads
I have nothing to hide
Someone is doing the Banks dirty work here lads
And I can tell ye
It’s not the ILCU or The wider Credit Union movement
Tune into @CU_VanessaForan and or @Vanessa_Foran and watch me fly the Irish Flag later today while ye get to spend yere Sunday with family friends etc
damn! I was sure you were in Bundoran
Oppps
It must be my sun cream squelchy fingers here
It’s SPS (and not SPA) Fund
Just to add, the ILCU delegation isn’t the only group of Paddys here
A number of other CUs have sent people as well
One of which is an Irish Credit Union that happens to be bigger than PTSB
And more profitable for its members, and more compliant
Than that same Bank is for its shareholders and customers
You’ll find no tracker or over charging scandals in an Irish Credit Union
Oh yeah
There will be a number of Credit Unions here (mainly US ones) that are bigger than AIB and BoI
Before I head off to the beach to get a few hours in before the official opening ceremonies
(And Roisin this is what I would be doing at home anyway)
Yes I will be having a drink, and a laugh, and hopefully some dancing too; again all normal activity for me.
This is behaviour member credit unions were well aware of when they voted me onto the Board of the ILCU
Ok lads. There is man here that wants to buy me a drink in a coconut. Talk later
…years ago I did a stint (3 years) as a volunteer director with my local Credit Union. As Treasurer, I had to justify the tiny expenses incurred sending delegates to the annual League of Credit Union Conference…mind you, I did get to visit exotic locations like Derry, Waterford and Salthill…
Don’t knock Salthill, a great spot. I hope you went to Leisureland.
It is one giant car park, nothing to write home about
That role was knocked out by the Central Bank when they took over as the Regulator Bisto
The new Act introduced mandatory Internal Audit
Which wasn’t a bad thing
But they should have allowed the function to run parallel until CUs were all up and running in compliance with the new Act
That why you had some CUs falling foul of the Central Bank
CUs needed a bit more time and support
But we’re all nearly there
FOR THE RECORD: ar no stage were members money at risk in any Credit Union in Ireland
Nor the Irish Tax Payer put upon
Remember that when yere throwing stones
And sniggering along with the SBP
…to be honest V, I found that my role was token…in the end I found that the power lay with a few individuals who were more influenced by the crozier than by the Central Bank…it was, and is , a great co-operative movement though and I’m really glad that a few people like you have made it past the celestial ceiling…
Slowly but surely Honey
I’ve done away with the invocation my own CU
(I do invite any other director to feel free to say it before I call the meeting to order – nobody brothers cept for one old school CU person who is known to be late anyway)
And at our own AGM Nobody Noticed or said a word
Things have changed since the commencement of the CU Act. For the better imo
But all cooperative entities are required to constantly change and flex in order to stay loyal to the ethos anyway
And just for the record. In case anyone is snooping.
Three of the days here in the Conference Complex are at my own expense.
Such a small world, V! I didn’t know you were associated with ILCU, but I see you’re a director.
What sort of body is it? Is it an incorporated body? Is there an ILCU annual report with accounts and notes? I see references to “associated companies”- DACs,a limited company and a foundation.
When I say the trip was funded by credit unions, presumably all of the expenses of the ILCU are funded by credit unions, presumably there are subscriptions or whatever for member credit unions which fund their representative body, the ILCU. Apols if that is wrong.
I think credit union members will be interested to know where these conferences are taking place. And the Bahamas, like it or not, sounds incredibly exotic and at €7,500 a head (?, €60k/8?) is certainly newsworthy and, in my opinion, eyebrow raising.Point taken about the voluntary effort, but volunteerism doesn’t obviate transparency.
Anyway, none of this is worthy of your time when you’re away. But, it would be interesting to hear from you when you’re back. Meanwhile, I hope you enjoy yourself.
Of course there is a a report and it is presented to the members at AGM
Annually
As well as the annual reports for other ILCU entities
ECCU and the Foundation for instance
That AGM is an open forum and members are well aware of the WACCU Conference which just happens to be hosted by the Carribbean Federation of Credit Unions this year.
Eff all out of everyone slagging us off today when it was held here in Ireland.
And Wrong again Eoin. It is 36k not 60k as you sought repeat
ILCU income comes from a number of sources
Subs and affiliation fees
Rental income, CULearn income etc
And all declared
I will personally see to it that you are an observer at the next AGM (April 2020 in Belfast)
Yeah we are an All Ireland organisation
And like all the member Credit Unions we are also incorporated, and independently audited
Rather than take the soup Eoin, go and volunteer in your own Credit Union
And please
Give us the courtesy of repeating the truth and not what is in the SBP
And of you are really that honest – answer me this
Why dig into this, and spray questions about the ILCU income and accounts, as well as cast aspersion about the recording of transactions, and ignore what I flagged about Pascal Donohue’s penal levy on CUs and the special interests it serves?
Same goes for anyone reading this or the SBP today
Now
Ye don’t really get to complain about paid directors of State Boards and Irish Banks, Bailouts and tracker scandals anymore do ye?
Is that where ye all want to be?
Hi V, just for the record, I had no idea that this story in the SBP was about you personally. The first line of the story, “Credit union board members and partners head to Paradise Island, The ILCU, which represents some 240 credit unions around the country and is financed by its members, said the trip would cost in the region of €60,000” was what I was originally commenting on above. I see that you’ve stated the cost is €36,000.
When you get back, would you be able to provide the name of the ILCU (incorporated, limited, DAC, CLG, Unlimited?) entity of which you are a director?
Meantime, I hope it’s enjoyable and professionally constructive for you.
PS, I don’t do AGMs unless legally required to, the occasional creditors meeting is enough for me ;-)
I have no time for Credit Unions- gossip central- just stick your financial business in the front window.
But what really bothers me is the ugly buildings- in some cases 2 story plate glass in rural towns- was there even planning permission granted?
Ask them yourself
Naa- i lost interest after they demanded smokers move because their precious little ones wanted to have lunch outside the local hotel.. Amazing how much such a small community could save mind – defies logic actually.
To avoid further insinuation
That 36k is the cost for the ILCU directors attending
Which this article targeted
And doesn’t include other representatives and delegates and speakers
Does anyone know if the “Patricia O’Sullivan Lacy” who Eoghan Murphy has just appointed to the Residential Tenancies Board is the same POSL who was once company secretary at the troubled National Irish Bank and NIB Financial Services?
Hundreds of homes and businesses in the west of Ireland lose broadband after thieves cut cables [in order to disable the alarm on a service station they were robbing]
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/burglary-linked-to-internet-blackout-in-ballinasloe-1.3969797
Just look at the photo though. That is what the €5 billion national broadband plan boils down to. A hole in the ground and a few wires. That’s what’s costing sooooo much money [now that Denis O’Brien and the Boston hedge fund are in charge of it].
First opinion poll out gives the expected Boris bounce.
Labour are terrified.
Boris is the most recognisable politician across all demographics and they’re stuck with an old, grey Marxist whose social life consists of tending to courgettes on his allotment.
Boris as PM is a game-changer simply because for the first time in three years someone has actually taken a decision.
Voters like decisive action.
when britain needed a statesmen, it got a showman
heh x3
You mean a statesman like Leo Varadkar.
Or Leo Who ?
As the rest of the world knows him.
Boris is box office. He has the EU cacking themselves.
no, I don’t mean like leo varadkar
he has the EU cacking themselves? If a massive eye-roll indicates cacking themselves, then yes
boris will be back on the after-dinner speech circuit before christmas
Is this like your prediction that the England v Ireland cricket match would be all over on the first day ?
You’ve started on the San Miguel early on the Costa del Expat.
and I wasn’t wrong, was I?
Only by a day and a half.
But I’ll leave you off.
We’re all guilty of rash predictions in sport.
you’re a good man, charger
No he doesn’t.
…oh John Bercow…
Hey! I tend to courgettes on my allotment!
Now now Charage
Margin of error works both ways,
And for every party subject to the poll
So, Boris’s Johnsons and Jeremy’s Corbinettes could so actually be neck and neck
But don’t let me stop you from Charging on
The lies from Maria Bailey just keep coming.
Ms Bailey publicly said she sought €7,000 from the hotel to cover medical costs incurred from her fall in 2015.
The real truth is that Ms Bailey wrote to the hotel seeking €20,000 in compensation after she fell from a swing while holding a bottle of beer and reaching for a bottle of wine.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/maria-bailey-initially-asked-hotel-for-20000-to-cover-her-swing-fall-expenses-claim-38351916.html
In any properly functioning democracy she would no longer be a TD. But the impotent Irish electorate have form on rewarding TD’s for such scams. Watch her get relected.
What is it about the Irish and their inability to take any of these people to task? The subservient Irish people, always waiting to be told what to do by politicians, the Brits and the Catholic Church. The holy trinity.
So was that information part of what Varadkar considered too much information for us plebs?. What will emerge about JoeB?
oh please please let the cctv get leaked!
around GE time preferably :)
Mind you if she would of attended the wedding of the fair city actress she could of partnered Leo and he would of not appeared so lonely
HAVE X 3 david, come on!
I see Shane Ross got sent on his merry empty-handed way by the FAI. Pat Hickey also gave him the two fingers, and rumour is that Hickey had a secret meeting with Kevin Mulvey recently – to re-establish himself as Olympic Ticketmeister?
No garda station in Stepaside either.
Minister for buffer zone for the boys Varadkar, Harris and Murphy. Nothing else.
Minister for Sport is such a meaningless portfolio anyway
It should be better given to a former high profile sports person or administrator, like John Treacy than some politico
…you mightn’t like it but that’s how representative democracies are supposed to work…
I just think it’s a pointless position bisted
A literal layer of BS
While the focus is on the FAI, our problem as taxpayers should be with Sport Ireland. The Sindo today reports “ODCE slams Sport Ireland on FAI probe, Corporate watchdog says State body lacks an understanding of ongoing soccer inquiry”
The chain of command for the €3m grant that is given to the FAI each year is
Taxpayer -> Shane Ross -> Sport Ireland -> FAI
It is for Sport Ireland to decide what grant is given to the FAI and we pay Sport Ireland €5m a year to divvy out €60m of grants [taxpayer money] to sports bodies. Frankly, I think they’re useless and we could save ourselves €5m a year by disbanding them.
The goal-hanging flag-magnet Shane Ross can’t help himself, he has to inject himself into the FAI affairs because that gives him profile. In truth, it’s Sport Ireland which should be ensuring our money is safe and well-spent and according to the Sindo, it is Sport Ireland which isn’t doing a great job.
While Shane Ross doesn’t have a direct role with the FAI, he does with Sport Ireland. Why isn’t he calling for heads there instead of appointing the likes of Kieran Mulvey to the board.
it’s a fair point Eoin
Worth following up
Ha!
Nothing to see here
Move on quick
WaPo after litigation got its hands on the federal databank of who made these lethal and highly addictive drugs,two the biggest suppliers and pushers are headquartered in…..
‘It attributes the vast majority of the 76 billion opioid pills produced and shipped from 2006 through 2012 to three companies that are now controlled by large multinational drugmakers: SpecGx, a subsidiary of Ireland-based Mallinckrodt; Par Pharmaceutical, owned by Endo Pharmaceuticals, also in Ireland; and Actavis, part of Israel-based Teva Pharmaceutical Industries.‘
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/little-known-generic-drug-companies-played-central-role-in-opioid-crisis-documents-reveal/2019/07/26/95e08b46-ac5c-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html?utm_term=.549c3a231757
They’re tackling the (prescription) opioid crisis in the US and UK. In Ireland, we still have our heads in the sand.
Interesting article Johnny, How many people have heard of “Ireland-based Mallinckrodt”
Morning Eoin,given the amount litigation ongoing you will probably be hearing a lot more about them,on a lighter note,FT weekend has deep dive into weed and fashion,just finishing up a piece on U.K. weed and Brexit for Tuesday.
“I just want it all to hurry up. It’s really frustrating,” says Chelsea Leyland. The 31-year-old British-born DJ, model and activist is on her way back from the Glastonbury music festival. And she’s talking about cannabis, or, more specifically, medical cannabis legislation in the UK.’
https://www.ft.com/content/857738aa-a878-11e9-b6ee-3cdf3174eb89
Mallincrodt have (had) a manufacturing plant in Athlone. Many changes of ownership since the 90s. Covidien is the current name in think. Covidien – Also in Tullamore, where Sherwood Medical were bought by TYCO, in turn bought by Medtronic and Covidien also part of the changes.
You have to watch the goings on with these pharma companies. All getting grants from us, and then change name, and get more grants. Or threaten to close. Similar to Bausch Lomb in Waterford. It’s a quagmire, these IDA companies.
The struggle for LGBT equality: Pride meets prejudice in Poland
I commented on Bialystok before but this a interesting piece. The final paragraph includes-
But the church’s authority is collapsing, leaving nationalists and conservatives terrified that their country will go the way of Ireland and adopt a “new morality” rooted in the language of diversity and human rights.
So there you have it- Ireland is something to be afraid of- lets see if feel they same after their own church scandals hit the headlines. Any Polish people I know here are the first to draw comparisons between Ireland of 30 years ago and back home now- which is why they are here.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/28/lgbt-gay-rights-poland-first-pride-march-bialystok-rage-violence
Excellent article
Thanks for sharing
https://twitter.com/AshbourneAnnie/status/1155230884410220544?s=20
Another Government Minister has been kidnapped. Hope he doesn’t make the same mistakes as Burton.
(Creed in Ballinasloe)
fair play to those farmers in fairness
Thanks for sharing Giggidy
Beautiful, sensitive and talented woman
https://www.independent.ie/life/family/if-there-was-one-thing-i-could-change-it-would-be-being-able-to-say-goodbye-jewellery-designer-chloe-townsend-of-the-death-of-her-mother-34532555.html
Fair play Eoghan in fairness
Barry Egan.
Pass me the puke bucket.
As charger said above “Woke Bingo full house”.
We’ve grown tired of waiting for your non existent explanation for how convicted paedophile Beech was framed.
Misinformed moron cites Barry Egan and quotes bojo fanboi charger..
Yea well done
What was alleged Beech victim Harvey Proctor arrested for as an mp?
What did the police find in Proctors house when they raided it in 2015?
Why weren’t these items mentioned in the trial?
Has alleged Beech victim Leon Britton been accused previously of sexual offences against minors?
Has alleged Beech victim Greville Janner been previously accused of sexual offences against minors?
Why did Lord Brammel lie under oath when he made the claim that he did not know Janner?
Was alleged Beech victim Ted Heath separately accused of sexual offences against minors?
All those victim millionaire’s, eh Warden..
That’s it? A litany or well hashed “accusations” against Tory “millionaires” is the extent of the thesis that Beech was framed?
Answer the question- how was Beech framed?
What was Proctor arrested for as a tory mp?
What was found in Proctors house when the police raided it in 2015 on foot of Beechs allegations?
Were Heath, Janner and Britton involved in separate allegations previous to Beechs allegations, of child sexual abuse?
Not one word you wrote there explains how a fraudulent criminal prosecution against Beech was mounted or how he was “framed”
Not even a syllable
Proctor was an alleged victim, Janner was an alleged victim, Heath was an alleged victim.
Lord Brammel lied under oath.
What was found in Proctors house when the police raided it on foot of beechs allegations?
What was Proctor convicted of when he was a Tory mp?
not one word you’ve written here so far
Established on a factual basis your claim
I don’t need to establish on a factual basis, all I have to do is cast doubt.
Lies under oath and evidence withheld means a bunk trial.
Daniel Janner QC – whose late father, the Labour peer Lord Janner, was also falsely accused by Beech – told the court: “It is impossible to get over the hurt which such ghastly alleged acts of violence have on a law-abiding family like mine. They are corrosive. They lie on the internet with ignorant people saying that there is no smoke without fire.
Is this the same Greville Janner whose house was raided 4 times by the police and was brought in for questioning 4 times, accused by separate individuals?
The same Greville Janner who is the subject of an ongoing child sexual abuse inquiry in the UK?
Oh so innocent Janner.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/20/greville-janner-abuse-law-death
He was the subject of three police investigations over more than 20 years, none of which led to prosecution.
– Just how many times do you think a person should stand trial? Is it over and over again, even in death, until the prosecution delivers the result YOU think is desirable?
You are a fascist – nothing more, nothing less.
So Cyril Smith and Jimmy Savile were also innocent just because the intelligence services scuppered any proper investigation of them, yea!?
And if Janner is so innocent how come he’s still part of the child abuse inquiry defendants, even after his death..
Try harder..
Darn, did we get deleted Millie? You’ll have to answer me in Morse code.
Yikes. Modded out of it. Sorry Lilly! Meet me under the fancy lamppost down the road. You know the spot.
Suffice to say, for personal reasons, I have a low personal opinion of her for something which happened a good number of years ago. So, to read between the lines, I hold a grudge like a bitch.
Dear Leo,
Welcome to the new order.
Cheers old sport,
Charger.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/27/boris-johnson-yet-to-make-a-phone-call-to-irish-pm-leo-varadkar
Britain’s unelected teaboy Taoiseach putting off making the phone call that will show his bluster about the backstop to be nothing but hot air.
Tick tick, Sasamach.
Isn’t it normal for other country leaders to phone a new one to do the congratulations? Has Varadkar phoned Johnson yet?
You’re trying to turn an article about Bojo the clown not picking up the phone to Leo into somehow being Leo’s fault?
If Varadkar cannot show basic courtesy and phone Johnson to wish him well soon after he was elected, and chooses to tweet something instead, you hardly expect him to be near the top of the queue for a phone call from Johnson. Tweets aren’t diplomacy and varadkar is just being put in his place.
Government and politics by tweet is cowardice.
Indeed.
Varadkar really is clueless at this stage chuntering on about a united Ireland when really he should be spelling out exactly what this country has planned in the event of a No Deal on October 31st.
I’d say the short answer is very little.
So you are trying to make it Leo’s fault. LOL!
Jeez Repro. Hard to get through to you. Why would Johnson phone Varadkar?
You’d better ask Ollie Chargers there. He seems to think the lack of a phone call is somehow significant.
I think it’s safe to say Boris is only really concerned with speaking to leaders who have any real say in the matter.
Trump,Merkel and Macron are the real players.
Poor old Macron has troubles of his own with the ongoing yellow vest protests and the Donald cranking up a trade war.
And Merkel is a shaking shadow of her former self.
Boris has hit the ground running.
Varadkar’s popularity is plummeting as Ireland finally wakes up to reality.
I’d say it’s safe to say Bojo is still struggling with the pronunciation of Varadkar.
…I’m not a great one for giving credit to politicos of any flavour…but…it’s a great relief to hear a unanimous voice in the Dail state that they will not stand idly by in the event of a no deal brexit…pity it’s not going to happen…
Harris’ Health Department. More of it. https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2019/0728/1065674-cervicalcheck/
The never-ending story of a drop-out Minister who hasn’t a clue what goes on in his department.
I have no time for Credit Unions- gossip central- just stick your financial business in the front window.
But what really bothers me is the ugly buildings- in some cases 2 high story plate glass among normal rows in rural towns- was there even planning permission granted?
https://www.businesspost.ie/news/broadband-bidder-met-department-300-plus-times-three-years-449088
Average twice per week over three years. Broadband special ones met department.