9 thoughts on “Jocelyn For Position”

  1. Chris

    A quote from the woman herself “First, demarcation disputes between supervisor and student are always difficult, probably impossible to resolve. Secondly, it is the supervisor who has the final responsibility for the success or failure of the project. We hear of cases where a supervisor blames his student for a failure, but we know that it is largely the fault of the supervisor. It seems only fair to me that he should benefit from the successes, too. Thirdly, I believe it would demean Nobel Prizes if they were awarded to research students, except in very exceptional cases, and I do not believe this is one of them. Finally, I am not myself upset about it – after all, I am in good company, am I not”

  3. Termagant

    It’s true to say Jocelyn discovered the pulsars first, because as a postgrad she was doing the gruntwork of parsing the data and as such was the first to see it. But the data came from the array that Hewish designed, which is why he got the award.

    But let’s take a step back here, and consider the bigger picture:
    who cares?

  4. theo kretschmar schuldorff

    I passed a lamp post last week bearing a sticker:
    “Special Olympics Ireland,
    They don’t protect you
    They control you”

    I’d be more concerned about whatever is the claim is there.
    The only fishy thing I know about them is that Redacted is Chairman of their Council of Patrons (which is hardly likely to boost patronage)

  6. Spaghetti Hoop

    There is nothing about this sticker appropriate to the spirit of Nollaig na mBan! Celebrate Dr. Bell for her achievements, not for what she didn’t win (her being the student of the team). How petty.

    Nollaig na mBan is about women taking a day off after their hard work over Christmas, and getting together socially for tea, drinks, music, singing and the craic.

    1. Paulus

      Hmph;
      I cooked Christmas dinner.
      Ensured the roast spuds were “as fluffy as Gran’s”
      Kept warring (adult) siblings apart.
      Coaxed tree-lights to life.
      Received predictable/cliched presents graciously.
      and so on…and on.

      Now; where’s this man’s Nollaig na mBan?
      eh?

      1. Spaghetti Hoop

        The tradition goes back centuries – a time when women did all of the household chores and men worked outside the home. It died out by the 1960s of course, and both men and women manage the christmas chores. Nowadays it’s just a nice tradition for women to get together socially.
        If you want men to get together socially, they just go to the pub as normal ;)

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