Don’t Send Me Your Huddled Masses

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The move effectively achieves a long-term Trump policy goal to curb immigration, making use of the health and economic crisis that has swept the country as a result of the pandemic to do so.

The decision drew swift condemnation from some Democrats, who accused the president of creating a distraction from what they view as a slow and faulty response to the coronavirus.

Trump said he was taking the action to protect the U.S. workforce. Millions of Americans are suffering unemployment after companies shed employees amid nationwide lockdowns to stop the contagion.

“In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens, I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States,” Trump said in a tweet.

The White House declined to offer further details about the reasoning behind the decision, its timing, or its legal basis.

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37 thoughts on “Don’t Send Me Your Huddled Masses

  1. Clampers Outside

    This is what most wanted here, the UK and around the world but because Dumpy does it, its wrong, yeah?

    Wtf…

    1. scottser

      clamps, the australians did it very early on to good effect and have suffered fewer fatalities than most nations. you could argue that they were pandemic prepared from very early on, notwithstanding their willingness to close their borders at every hand’s turn to immigration previously to covid 19.
      trump though is blatently covering his arse by playing the populist card. it’s a shameless politcal ploy to distract from his own incompetence rather than a genuine attempt to protect american citizens. if he was consistant in trying to stop the spread he would restrict domestic as well as international flights like the australians did. but he won’t because he’s a liar and a charlatan.

      1. Nigel

        I’m not sure I understand what feezing immigration accomplishes that isn’t already, or better, accomplished by travel bans? Immigrants are only a subset of all travellers, surely. Plus immigrants aren’t the problem in the US – it’s the complete lack of a co-ordinated Feseral response and the head of state routinely undermining and contradicting efforts to control the pandemic. If reports are correct, the Feds are fecking hijacking medical equipment purchased by the states?

          1. Matt Pilates

            A vote for SF/IRA is a vote for murder of kittens. It’s a catastrophic day for democracy.

          2. scottser

            what is this about kittens? i like to think i’m a facetious old git but even i don’t get it.

          3. Nigel

            scottser – you can spot the guy whose comments are going to be replaced with kitten and puppy love a mile off.

      2. Clampers Outside

        Regardless of motivation it is still the right thing to do, is it not, as per your own explanation and how it has worked for Australia.

        1. scottser

          what, closing the stable door after the horse has bolted? no.
          also, domestic flights within the US are still carrying on as normal, so no there also.

          1. Clampers Outside

            The stable doors still need closing, and this is one door of a number needing closing. Regardless of motivation it is clearly one of the right things to do.

          2. scottser

            don’t want to harp on about it clamps, but stopping immigration on its own is not a health issue unless it’s part of a suite of measures. on it’s own, well it becomes a very different thing altogether.

        2. Nigel

          I don’t think you can really properly judge this without understanding the motivation, especially since a) immigration to the US has already been effectively suspended and b) Trump keeps pushing for an early re-opening of those stable doors. On the other hand, Trump has apparently spent the last few days focused on, er, stabilising oil prices…

    2. Formerly known as @ireland.com

      100% – Ireland (the island) needs to force all arrivals into 2 weeks quarantine, courtesy of the state. It is expensive and it is harsh but it works. Australia has 72 deaths. In Victoria, they did 2,700 tests on Monday and found one positive case. Fewer than 50 new cases per day. Some states have had zero new cases for three days in a row. Some of the states have closed their borders – never happened before. It has worked. I think Ireland needs to take this step. Anything less is just going to draw it out.

      1. baz

        No, not courtesy of the state, should be at the expense of the quarantined. China does this. Travel there now and you pay to be locked in a hotel room for 2 weeks.
        That’s proper quarantine and the user pays.

        1. Formerly known as @ireland.com

          User pays is fine, too. Australia is only letting citizens and permanent residents in. It is discouraging citizens leaving the country, too.

    3. Ron

      yes. it’s exactly what’s required to do and Ireland should be doing it too. instead we fly plane loads of them in at a time when that could have been delayed… nothing is the same after COVID-19. Extraordinary circumstances call for extraordinary measures… meanwhile our parents left to languish in Nursing homes at great cost, they can just die according to the filth in charge

  2. Baz

    Real cold fact as of 21/04/2020

    Ireland death rate
    1 person per 7132

    USA death rate
    1 person per 8788

          1. Baz

            thanks for the link, of particular interest is the Flights section, details close contact with confirmed infections, no doubt our GDPR genius probably would not allow same here!

        1. Andrew

          : Baz – dav would rather talk about Trump & Boris. Who would have though dav of all people would be going to bat for the ‘blushirts’ and playing their game?
          et tu davus?

          1. baz

            Covid-19 is whipping us but the HSE chooses to view Nursing home fatalities as some sort of other bin.

            They deluded themselves with their controlled stats that don’t factor nursing homes but they won’t say as much.

            We had months of heads up on this, Protection of nursing homes and the elderly should have been priorities but somehow were not.

          2. Nigel

            Luckily Constable Andrew from the Talk Police is here to keep us focused only on Approved Topics.

          3. dav

            poor Andrew cannot accept his drrumpf and bojo aren’t doing as well as he hoped and can only offer the “look over there” defence for them..

          4. bisted

            …err…has Boris not just been elected with a ‘stonking majority’…and Trump didn’t so much win his election as the other side lost it…they seem fairly on course to lose yet again…

          5. Andrew

            :) dav can’t accept that he’s been played, a stooge if you will.
            As for me, I’m more interested in how our own government are doing and not pretending we are winning some competition with the U.K..
            I don’t have a vote in the U.S. or the U.K. and I don’t think they’ve handled their response to the crisis well at all.
            However, it is clear that the strategy of comparing ourselves with the U.K is working. This is concerted and the dull of mind are lapping it up.

        2. dav

          @ Baz my point was if you’re going to make a statement using some stats as source was going to be of use. I’m glad you provided a source, thank you.
          The fact you think that yours’ is better than mine is a tad childish but small steps..

          1. Baz

            so you accept that the death rate in Ireland is worse than in the USA but cannot admit as much? ah okay.

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