Minister for Justice and Equality Helen McEntee at the launch of a campaign to highlight the dangers of using illegal fireworks before and during the Halloween period.
even Varadkar and Coveney are invariably well turned out: good shoes, suits that fit, well groomed, fitted shirts
FFers with their fat necks and slobbish suits dont help themselves
Paulus
…don’t forget an undone button over the belly. And for maximum effect; have one side of shirt out over trousers at the front.
Junkface
In fairness, it is a lovely dress. Very striking
GiggidyGoo
The odd few do alright. McEntee does have a bit of style about her. As Rod Stewart would say ‘She wears it well’
bejasus
sums up Ireland that she has gotten so far on so little.
Twoshoes
She’s got a degree in Politics and Law, what more do you want from a politician who’s minister for justice? Would you prefer a 60 year old man who’s still on sabbatical from his primary school teaching job?
bejasus
a degree in politics means you can rock up and be an effective politican, does it?
she jumped into a position because of her father. a position dealing with the suicide crisis at the time. she had no professional experience in the area. given a special slot at one stage on her own on prime time to show herself off. she is a script reader with no opinion of her own. useless.
Rob_G
“she had no professional experience in the area. ”
She has 7 years’ experience as a TD, some of which she served as a junior minister – how much more experience are you looking for? Should we only give ministerial roles to old duffers who have been in the chamber for 30 years?
Johnnythree
Still useless. We should give Ministerial roles to people who are competent. She is a bluffer. Perfect party for her though.
Rob_G
hey, that’s democracy, babe
Johnnythree
Yup. Give me a 60 year old guy with a shirt hanging out- that can think – anytime.
Rob_G
ok boomer
Twoshoes
If you did some research into how her father died, you might find out that she was more than qualified to talk about the suicide crisis
E'Matty
Did she practice any Law or just study it? Even after a degree, to become a lawyer requires one passes a set of exams (FE1s), then a full training (PPC) programme (2+ years) and even then when you qualify, nobody is considerd a real lawyer for at least 2-3 years PQE of actual in the office/courts hands-on experience. Anyway, most lawyers are rote learning morons. so it really wouldn’t be much of a credit to her anyway.
Irish people are so easy to impress with silly academic qualifications and titles. It’s the intellectual inferiority complex so many suffer that has them clinging to their voices of authority to tell them what to think like frightened children seeking parental protection, guidance and care. “Listen to the experts” they cry. How about do your own research and think for yourself for a change. Stop abdicating your civic responsbility to think for yourself to others you consider to be your intellectual superior. Many are not, they simply present themselves better. I wish people would realise that MOST topics are within the capability of MOST people to gain a reasonably good understanding of, if they simply apply basic rules of critical thinking and understand what constitutues objective evidence and what is subjective narrative.
Indeed, it’s quite telling just how impressed people are by her attire here. Style over substance is the name of the game. Give me a scruffy stuttering man/woman with intelligence and integrity any day over a smooth talking well dressed ego driven empty vessel simply pursuing power and career.
Nigel
*well-dressed woman with professional qualifications appears*
The Plain People Of Broadsheet: WE PREFER WILD MEN FROM THE WOODS WRAPPED ONLY IN THE TANGLED SWATHES OF THEIR OWN SHAGGY BEARDS STINKING OF CONGRESS WITH GOATS AND RANTING ABOUT MUSHROOMS
E'Matty
Missed the point completely, but not really surprised. Whilst you and many others seem enthralled and impressed by well dressed people/politicians, I am merely pointing to the vacuous nature of this and how often this misguidedly constitutes a metric by which we measure our public figures. The worst of our time have been very well dressed and presented (Tony Blair dressed and spoke well, but was a war criminal for example), though the illusion falls flat on substance, which is what I tend to focus on. It’s similar to how so many focus on what a poltician says, rather than on what they actually do, which is what truly matters. But, do carry on with your little fashion show…
In my experience the lad doesn’t need to have gone to the trouble growing a beard or flirting with goats
Just needs to be louder
Not so sure about well-dressed
That’s a matter of opinion
Whereas Profession Credentials are a matter of fact and the same for everyone
Everyone that passes tests n’ stuff
Nigel
Nonsense, all politicians and professionals should be judged entirely on their level of attractiveness to hormonal teenagers of any gender.
Liam Deliverance
+1 E’Matty
Johnnythree
Glad y’all like the dress. We all paid for it. And she gets to keep it.
Nigel
We have excellent taste.
Rob_G
Yes – our TDs should be forced to dress in sackcloth to placate the rabble.
Rosette of Sirius
I bought a very nice shiny new car recently. I work for a company whose products everyone here are certain to use one way or another…. Thanks!
(See how ridiculous that sounds?)
Rob_G
just to play devil’s advocate – the difference being that McEntee is paid by the taxpayer. If she was going around wearing ermine or something, Johnny would actually have a point.
But in fact she is wearing a dress from Dorothy Perkins or Asos or somewhere, so he doesn’t.
Johnnythree
I do have a point. It just does not suit you. Simple
Daisy Chainsaw
That dress would suit me.
Rosette of Sirius
It’s a farcical point though. The public representatives you voted for, assuming you voted and assuming they were elected, get paid too. She represents her electorate and gets paid for it. That’s the deal. What she buys with her money is her business and her property – nobody else’s.
Pip
It is a truly gorgeous dress.
And I guess …… oh, maybe should stop now.
Scundered
About time, but how about extra measures to punish anyone caught using these illegal torments, the amount of fireworks going off has been off the scale this year. Curfews for the known troublemakers might help.
Micko
There’s a 10k fine mentioned on the poster, jail time etc
JEH
Must be thinking of the UK’s recent announcement. It’s a low quality photo but it actually looks like it says 20/30k on my computer!
So let me get this straight, there’s more punishment for fireworks than for “dangerous driving” resulting in death?
Bodger
A clearer photo there now.
Scundered
It’s my guess that jail time or 10k fines can’t be placed on juveniles, whom I would assume are responsible for letting the fireworks off in most cases though
George
Or even just driving around and taking the fireworks would be something. They’re going off every night within a few hundred metres of Kevin Street Garda Station and have been for years at this time of year. They aren’t hard to find. They’re basically setting off flares.
Micko
To difficult for Guards to deal with the type of people who are setting them off.
Easier to stage a media campaign letting everyone know that they are serious about “tackling the problem” while really doing nothing effective.
Kinda reminds me of something else they brought in…
Johnnythree
‘She’s got a degree in Politics and Law, what more do you want from a politician who’s minister for justice? Would you prefer a 60 year old man who’s still on sabbatical from his primary school teaching job?’
Eh she got in on her dads seat. Sans talent.
Rob_G
There have been two elections since the by-election where she first entered office; the Meath electorate have had two opportunities to get rid of her. Apparently they are happy enough with her.
And is without doubt
One of the best performers at cabinet
Lads, some of ye would want to cop on t’ yerselves
There is a 60 year old man
Who has had four senior ministries behind him
Plus over 30 years on the same Oireachtas
And is now Taoiseach
And she’s putting him to shame
Johnnythree
Easy to get in when the door is opened. She hardly grafted her way up from an unknown. The worst of Irish politics right there.
Daisy Chainsaw
Very few politicians are unknown these days. Most come from dynasties.
Johnnythree
Thats why we have no talent. They should do an exam in critical reasoning and basic economics to get onto a ballot.
Cian
Perhaps this should be extended to the electorate? everyone should do an exam in critical reasoning and basic economics to be allowed to vote
Rob_G
perhaps it should be extended to people being allowed near computers…
Twoshoes
‘Thats why we have no talent. They should do an exam in critical reasoning and basic economics to get onto a ballot.’
Eh.. I think a degree in Economics (which is what McEntee has) is probably better than an aul exam to be fair
E'Matty
@Twoshoes “Eh.. I think a degree in Economics (which is what McEntee has) is probably better than an aul exam to be fair”. Not necessarily. Depends entirely on the individual. Really, any idiot can rote learn and regurgitate data in an exam. That’s not intelligence.
Brother Barnabas
a primary degree in DCU and a masters in Griffith College…
that’s the 2020 equivalent of finishing primary school in 1980
You could say Charlie Flanaghan was – since he is a Solicitor
and look how that turned out
Brother Barnabas
tbh, I wouldn’t say that – any eejit can qualify as a solicitor. one thing I’ve learned is that solicitors, barristers, accountants, whatever… not at all equal. most of them are fupping useless- you’ve got to weed through a lot of sh 1t to get good ones. my current accountant’s hourly rate is more than twice what previous one charged – but she’s worth twice that again. if she told me in the morning she was doubling her fees, I’d stick with her
The workplace ultimately decides who’s got game and who hasn’t
But the lads still have more than a head start
And age is a thing
Especially with women candidates
While for the kinda stuff I’d chase now when they crop up
More Governance stuff
It’s 100% Political / Jobs for the Friends of
Interesting thing about fees
If I’m brought in by one of the Blue Ribbon firms on a client case as a consultant, said firm will bill me out per hour a number that the same client wouldn’t dream of coming within a time zone to pay me under my own letterhead
Same work, same licence, same PI, same VAT rate, and same Signiture
JEH
They’re absolutely taking the wee. This is nothing more than pretending to do “something” about the issue.
GiggidyGoo
I don’t think she’s put a foot wrong so far – apart from holding an umbrella over Varadkar like a hand maiden.
George
What about the terrible response to Covid-19 in Direct Provision Centres?
FGers dress well to be fair to them
I came here to say nice dress
it is
she always looks well
even Varadkar and Coveney are invariably well turned out: good shoes, suits that fit, well groomed, fitted shirts
FFers with their fat necks and slobbish suits dont help themselves
…don’t forget an undone button over the belly. And for maximum effect; have one side of shirt out over trousers at the front.
In fairness, it is a lovely dress. Very striking
The odd few do alright. McEntee does have a bit of style about her. As Rod Stewart would say ‘She wears it well’
sums up Ireland that she has gotten so far on so little.
She’s got a degree in Politics and Law, what more do you want from a politician who’s minister for justice? Would you prefer a 60 year old man who’s still on sabbatical from his primary school teaching job?
a degree in politics means you can rock up and be an effective politican, does it?
she jumped into a position because of her father. a position dealing with the suicide crisis at the time. she had no professional experience in the area. given a special slot at one stage on her own on prime time to show herself off. she is a script reader with no opinion of her own. useless.
“she had no professional experience in the area. ”
She has 7 years’ experience as a TD, some of which she served as a junior minister – how much more experience are you looking for? Should we only give ministerial roles to old duffers who have been in the chamber for 30 years?
Still useless. We should give Ministerial roles to people who are competent. She is a bluffer. Perfect party for her though.
hey, that’s democracy, babe
Yup. Give me a 60 year old guy with a shirt hanging out- that can think – anytime.
ok boomer
If you did some research into how her father died, you might find out that she was more than qualified to talk about the suicide crisis
Did she practice any Law or just study it? Even after a degree, to become a lawyer requires one passes a set of exams (FE1s), then a full training (PPC) programme (2+ years) and even then when you qualify, nobody is considerd a real lawyer for at least 2-3 years PQE of actual in the office/courts hands-on experience. Anyway, most lawyers are rote learning morons. so it really wouldn’t be much of a credit to her anyway.
Irish people are so easy to impress with silly academic qualifications and titles. It’s the intellectual inferiority complex so many suffer that has them clinging to their voices of authority to tell them what to think like frightened children seeking parental protection, guidance and care. “Listen to the experts” they cry. How about do your own research and think for yourself for a change. Stop abdicating your civic responsbility to think for yourself to others you consider to be your intellectual superior. Many are not, they simply present themselves better. I wish people would realise that MOST topics are within the capability of MOST people to gain a reasonably good understanding of, if they simply apply basic rules of critical thinking and understand what constitutues objective evidence and what is subjective narrative.
Indeed, it’s quite telling just how impressed people are by her attire here. Style over substance is the name of the game. Give me a scruffy stuttering man/woman with intelligence and integrity any day over a smooth talking well dressed ego driven empty vessel simply pursuing power and career.
*well-dressed woman with professional qualifications appears*
The Plain People Of Broadsheet: WE PREFER WILD MEN FROM THE WOODS WRAPPED ONLY IN THE TANGLED SWATHES OF THEIR OWN SHAGGY BEARDS STINKING OF CONGRESS WITH GOATS AND RANTING ABOUT MUSHROOMS
Missed the point completely, but not really surprised. Whilst you and many others seem enthralled and impressed by well dressed people/politicians, I am merely pointing to the vacuous nature of this and how often this misguidedly constitutes a metric by which we measure our public figures. The worst of our time have been very well dressed and presented (Tony Blair dressed and spoke well, but was a war criminal for example), though the illusion falls flat on substance, which is what I tend to focus on. It’s similar to how so many focus on what a poltician says, rather than on what they actually do, which is what truly matters. But, do carry on with your little fashion show…
Some truth in that
In my experience the lad doesn’t need to have gone to the trouble growing a beard or flirting with goats
Just needs to be louder
Not so sure about well-dressed
That’s a matter of opinion
Whereas Profession Credentials are a matter of fact and the same for everyone
Everyone that passes tests n’ stuff
Nonsense, all politicians and professionals should be judged entirely on their level of attractiveness to hormonal teenagers of any gender.
+1 E’Matty
Glad y’all like the dress. We all paid for it. And she gets to keep it.
We have excellent taste.
Yes – our TDs should be forced to dress in sackcloth to placate the rabble.
I bought a very nice shiny new car recently. I work for a company whose products everyone here are certain to use one way or another…. Thanks!
(See how ridiculous that sounds?)
just to play devil’s advocate – the difference being that McEntee is paid by the taxpayer. If she was going around wearing ermine or something, Johnny would actually have a point.
But in fact she is wearing a dress from Dorothy Perkins or Asos or somewhere, so he doesn’t.
I do have a point. It just does not suit you. Simple
That dress would suit me.
It’s a farcical point though. The public representatives you voted for, assuming you voted and assuming they were elected, get paid too. She represents her electorate and gets paid for it. That’s the deal. What she buys with her money is her business and her property – nobody else’s.
It is a truly gorgeous dress.
And I guess …… oh, maybe should stop now.
About time, but how about extra measures to punish anyone caught using these illegal torments, the amount of fireworks going off has been off the scale this year. Curfews for the known troublemakers might help.
There’s a 10k fine mentioned on the poster, jail time etc
Must be thinking of the UK’s recent announcement. It’s a low quality photo but it actually looks like it says 20/30k on my computer!
So let me get this straight, there’s more punishment for fireworks than for “dangerous driving” resulting in death?
A clearer photo there now.
It’s my guess that jail time or 10k fines can’t be placed on juveniles, whom I would assume are responsible for letting the fireworks off in most cases though
Or even just driving around and taking the fireworks would be something. They’re going off every night within a few hundred metres of Kevin Street Garda Station and have been for years at this time of year. They aren’t hard to find. They’re basically setting off flares.
To difficult for Guards to deal with the type of people who are setting them off.
Easier to stage a media campaign letting everyone know that they are serious about “tackling the problem” while really doing nothing effective.
Kinda reminds me of something else they brought in…
‘She’s got a degree in Politics and Law, what more do you want from a politician who’s minister for justice? Would you prefer a 60 year old man who’s still on sabbatical from his primary school teaching job?’
Eh she got in on her dads seat. Sans talent.
There have been two elections since the by-election where she first entered office; the Meath electorate have had two opportunities to get rid of her. Apparently they are happy enough with her.
+ V
And is without doubt
One of the best performers at cabinet
Lads, some of ye would want to cop on t’ yerselves
There is a 60 year old man
Who has had four senior ministries behind him
Plus over 30 years on the same Oireachtas
And is now Taoiseach
And she’s putting him to shame
Easy to get in when the door is opened. She hardly grafted her way up from an unknown. The worst of Irish politics right there.
Very few politicians are unknown these days. Most come from dynasties.
Thats why we have no talent. They should do an exam in critical reasoning and basic economics to get onto a ballot.
Perhaps this should be extended to the electorate? everyone should do an exam in critical reasoning and basic economics to be allowed to vote
perhaps it should be extended to people being allowed near computers…
‘Thats why we have no talent. They should do an exam in critical reasoning and basic economics to get onto a ballot.’
Eh.. I think a degree in Economics (which is what McEntee has) is probably better than an aul exam to be fair
@Twoshoes “Eh.. I think a degree in Economics (which is what McEntee has) is probably better than an aul exam to be fair”. Not necessarily. Depends entirely on the individual. Really, any idiot can rote learn and regurgitate data in an exam. That’s not intelligence.
a primary degree in DCU and a masters in Griffith College…
that’s the 2020 equivalent of finishing primary school in 1980
I know I shouldn’t have
But I did
Good job I work in a closed door office
the slobber can stay where it lands
( ̄_, ̄ )
no question she’s eminently unqualified for that role, but so is almost every other member of the cabinet
difference though is that its rarely commented on when it’s a male TD we’re talking about
men who stick up for equality are hot
You could say Charlie Flanaghan was – since he is a Solicitor
and look how that turned out
tbh, I wouldn’t say that – any eejit can qualify as a solicitor. one thing I’ve learned is that solicitors, barristers, accountants, whatever… not at all equal. most of them are fupping useless- you’ve got to weed through a lot of sh 1t to get good ones. my current accountant’s hourly rate is more than twice what previous one charged – but she’s worth twice that again. if she told me in the morning she was doubling her fees, I’d stick with her
Well that’s true
Kinda
The workplace ultimately decides who’s got game and who hasn’t
But the lads still have more than a head start
And age is a thing
Especially with women candidates
While for the kinda stuff I’d chase now when they crop up
More Governance stuff
It’s 100% Political / Jobs for the Friends of
Interesting thing about fees
If I’m brought in by one of the Blue Ribbon firms on a client case as a consultant, said firm will bill me out per hour a number that the same client wouldn’t dream of coming within a time zone to pay me under my own letterhead
Same work, same licence, same PI, same VAT rate, and same Signiture
They’re absolutely taking the wee. This is nothing more than pretending to do “something” about the issue.
I don’t think she’s put a foot wrong so far – apart from holding an umbrella over Varadkar like a hand maiden.
What about the terrible response to Covid-19 in Direct Provision Centres?
Charlie Flanagan was the problem there
and it was another Solicitor that introduced Direct Provision
What about the terrible response to Covid-19
‘Perhaps this should be extended to the electorate? everyone should do an exam in critical reasoning and basic economics to be allowed to vote’
Why would we do that?
Is that ‘bangers’ in the inbetweeners sense?
Why are they wearing rag muzzles- have they not heard the news?
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