US President Donald Trump (right) and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton in Dallas, Texas, USA last June
Last night/today
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is asking the US Supreme Court to instruct legislatures in four states to throw out what he calls “tainted” results and select their own slate of presidential electors.
Via Newsweek:
The Republican-controlled legislatures in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin would then be free to choose electors who could vote for Trump when the Electoral College meets on December 13.
At least 17 states that voted for Trump have signed a brief supporting the Texas lawsuit, which claims that the four states in question didn’t follow election laws correctly in administering the 2020 election. Trump has also filed a motion to intervene in the case.
The U.S. Constitution permits states to decide their own laws on running elections and a variety of legal experts have harshly criticized the Texas lawsuit, with some arguing the Supreme Court won’t even hear the case because the state doesn’t have standing to sue its sister states in this way.
Can Trump Still Win the Election? Texas Supreme Court Lawsuit Chances (Newsweek)
Meanwhile…
Our Office has received many inquiries about the Texas v. Pennsylvania lawsuit filed at the U.S. Supreme Court and whether Arizona will participate. Here is my statement and our legal filing: https://t.co/82qIu1lQ5B pic.twitter.com/tRY6c6lTJl
— Mark Brnovich (@GeneralBrnovich) December 9, 2020
The Long-Shot Texas Suit Trump Is Hailing as the ‘Big One’ (Bloomberg)
AP
Ah, all is made clear..
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/trump-raises-170m-for-election-defence-fund-and-looks-for-more-1.4424364
This is just blatant, right? They want these electors to ignore the voters and install Trump as head of state. This is a straight-up bid for autocracy, on its face. This is a repudiation of democracy.
That’s what this has always been of course, but this doesn’t even make a pretence of being anything else.
That’s the official line, yes. Disenfranchise the voters in those states because we don’t like the result. Paxton is suing the 4 states on the grounds that they made election procedure changes in response to the pandemic. Guess what other state did that? That’s right, Texas.
Of course the real driver here is Ken Paxton has been indicted and needs a pardon from Trump.
As an aside, the Alamo was a victory for Mexico over the Republic of Texas.
Ha Ha.
Trump is a dictator for following the law; and insisting on the constitution he has sworn to defend.
While those state level executives who broke the law and stepped outside state and federal constitutional parameters in order to facilitate millions of illegal votes they’re the real heroes here.
He He.
Can’t wait for the report on Election integrity due December 18 if memory serves.
Tick Tock.
[How much popcorn is too much popcorn?]
Which state leve executives broke the law?
I’d imagine the level of popcorn would depend on the level of koolaid and you’ve clearly hit your limit on that.
All the arguments in the Texas lawsuit have already been dismissed at every other court level. The Electoral college votes Monday and that’ll be that.
Texas lawsuit went straight to the Supreme Court – keep up Bertie.
You really need to read beyond headlines Fanacht.
The Texas suit is an amalgamation of all the allegations that were rejected at every level below Supreme Court. Knowing this, and knowing they’d be rejected at those levels again, Paxton went straight to the Supreme Court. It’s a big flashy show for the idiots, and the idiots are loving it, but it’s all an illusion.
For a start, it’s asking SCOTUS to delay the electoral vote for Georgia, Pennslvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Doing so would be unconstitutional as Article II of the US Constitution states “The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States”.
Congress met and determined the day to be Monday, December 14th. SCOTUS has no authority to change that or to delay for some Electors as it clearly states “which Day shall be the same throughout the United States”.
Trump is an aspiring dictator for lying about the legitimacy of the election and trying to overturn the result with no evidence of is claims of fraud, illegality or impropriety.
Only date that matters is the one in the Constitution as follows:
“The terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January…”
And so they shall. You may even have noticed me doing a countdown to then.
40 days.
That doesn’t change the simple truth that for SCOTUS to delay the electoral vote would be unconstitutional and, therefore, won’t be happening. Vote takes place Monday and Biden will be voted in as president.
There is no date mentioned in the constitution for the Electoral College vote.
The Texas case simply asks the SC to validate the selection of the Electors by the state legislature as is originally set out in the Constitution and to dismiss/restrain/invalidate any selection resulting from last minute rule changes imposed on those states’ presidential plebiscites by out of control state executives and not ratified by the state legislature.
40 days til the end of Trump’s first term and the start of his second term.
Tick Tock.
This just keeps getting better – now the Pennsylvania House has joined the Texas suit… against Pennsylvania…!!!
Pennsylvania is effectively suing itself!!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-pennsylvanias-house-representatives-joins-texas-suit-pennsylvania-wisconsin-michigan-georgia/
c’mere Fanny
Have you seen the Notice of Motion
Like the Top Sheet on their lodgement papers to the Supreme Court
by any chance?
Look at you getting excited without knowing the full facts.
Seven Republican members of Congress from Pennsylvania joined the suit. That’s not even all the Republican members of Congress in Pennsylvania and some of the seven were already involved in cases brought to delay the result in Pennsylvania. Those cases were all rejected.
While them signing on may be exciting for you it won’t make one iota of difference to the outcome.
39 days.
Why would you get excited about elected representatives coming out as anti-democracy?
Fact-free Nigel doesn’t realise the USA is a constitutional Republic.
for Frilly
No. ______, Original In the Supreme Court of the United States STATE OF TEXAS, Plaintiff,
v.
COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, STATE OF GEORGIA, STATE OF MICHIGAN, AND STATE OF WISCONSIN, Defendants.
MOTION FOR LEAVE TO FILE BILL OF COMPLAINT Pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §1251(a) and this Court’s Rule 17, the State of Texas respectfully seeks leave to file the accompanying Bill of Complaint against the States of Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (collectively, the “Defendant States”) challenging their administration of the 2020 presidential election. As set forth in the accompanying brief and complaint, the 2020 election suffered from significant and unconstitutional irregularities in the Defendant States:
•Non-legislative actors’ purported amendments to States’ duly enacted election laws, in violation of the Electors Clause’s vesting State legislatures with plenary authority regarding the appointment of presidential electors.
•Intrastate differences in the treatment of voters, with more favorable allotted to voters–whether lawful or unlawful–in areas administered by local government under Democrat control and with populations with higher ratios of Democrat voters than other areas of Defendant States.
•The appearance of voting irregularities in the Defendant States that would be consistent with the unconstitutional relaxation of ballot-integrity protections in those States’ election laws.
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf
@Fanny
https://twitter.com/akaFrillyKeane/status/1337187234232086529?s=19
All the best people V.
Not the same document.
Try harder.
like it makes a difference
t’would be a big help
no matter the jurisdiction of the Court office
to at least attempt to put their best foot forward
tisn’t all teeth whitening, hair dos and face lifts
Not sure being a constitutional republic will be much help when it comes to trying to use the courts to overturn an election where no fraud has been proven.
Saying there is no evidence of fraud is the act of a delusional maniac at this point.
The Demonrats, the RINO’s, and the Fake News are up to their necks in it.
And there is video.
And that’s just what we know so far.
Wait til the report on the 18th…
You will flip your lid.
No evidence of a standard to stand up in court, just evidence of a standard to whip up a Trumpist mob and fuel Republican lies, which isn’t any standard at all.
Repeating the same garbage about voter fraud that has been debunked over and over doesn’t make it true.
Just cos you claim ‘debunked’ doesn’t make the evidence go away.
The investigation continues…
https://truepundit.com/exclusive-fbi-criminal-probe-tracks-500000-counterfeit-biden-ballots-in-four-key-battleground-states/
Just cause you’ve gotten allergic to the word ‘debunked’ doesn’t mean any of the evidence actually makes it to court.
Just because you claim ‘evidence’ doesn’t make it real.
The most secure election in US history resulted in a Biden win. That’s real.
I see the supreme court rejected this Texas lawsuit just a moment ago. Did you finish all the popcorn?
American state laws are so confusing. They defy all logic.
Think of the USA a bit l like the EU. There are federal laws and state/country laws.
When we elect MEPs in Ireland we use PR-STV; in Germany they use a party list.
It would be like Ireland saying that the German MEPs weren’t elected fairly.
3,265 covid related fatalities yesterday according to the Worldometers, but this is what the Republicans are focusing all of their attention on at the moment.
For context. In 2019 the US had a total of 2,839,205 deaths; this is equivalent to 7,778 deaths per day (if each day is the same). For December 2019 there were 8,258 per day.
If (and this is totally likely) there are no excess deaths, then 40% of yesterday’s 8,258 deaths were Covid related.
If all of these were excess deaths, then 28% of yesterdays 11,523 deaths were Covid related.
The actual percentage lies somewhere between 28% and 40%
And what’s the numbers for flu this year?
In comparison with say the last five years…
Fanacht! You’re a dull boy.
CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza
Flu season is winter so the season crosses from year to year.
US Flu 2018–2019: 34,200 deaths (12 months)
US Flu 2017-2018 61,099 deaths (12 months)
US Covid 2020: 296,885 (10 months)
So if I’m reading this correctly there are no numbers for flu in 2020.
Wonder why?
Over 3000 dead in one day today in the US! For the slow witted who think its just like the Flu, get a grip of reality! Some families with diabetes and hyper tension have been completely wiped out in poor areas.
Here is a link :
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/?itid=sn_coronavirus_2/
Your question is unanswerable. There are no 2020 flu numbers
you can get 2019/2020 flu numbers (summary below) or 2020/2021 flu numbers (next year)
CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2019–2020 season was moderate with an estimated 38 million people sick with flu, 18 million visits to a health care provider for flu, 400,000 hospitalizations for flu, and 22,000 flu deaths
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2019-2020.html
COVID-19 is caused by a coronavirus and the flu is caused by an influenza virus. These are two similar but distinct types of viruses that can be easily differentiated in a lab. But new data from the CDC may point to the flu being misdiagnosed as COVID-19, resulting in higher coronavirus numbers but much lower flu numbers. In fact, there has been a 95% decrease in flu cases during current weeks 40-41.
This time last year, there were 1251 flu cases reported to the CDC during weeks 40-41. This is about average. But in 2020, we’re seeing a record low number of 61 total flu cases reported in the same time period. It doesn’t take a medical degree to come to the logical conclusion that the flu didn’t suddenly disappear but that it’s simply being misdiagnosed as COVID-19.
https://noqreport.com/2020/10/19/flu-cases-drop-95-compared-to-last-year-are-patients-being-misdiagnosed-as-having-covid-19/
If the US constitution permits states to decide their own laws on elections, how can the US Supreme Court decide? Doesn’t make sense.
And why have a single National Election for the POTUS gig at all
Especially if not all the voters – throughout all the States, are not qualified equally to vote under all the same terms and qualifying conditions
For the same election
At least here to get on the local electoral register is the same in every Constituency
The answer is “no”.