“The Enduring False Narrative About the PULSE Massacre Shows
the Power of Media Propaganda
Politicians and activists should stop ratifying the fiction that Omar Mateen
was motivated by anti-LGBT hatred. It dishonours the victims and obscures the real motive.”
“On the fifth anniversary of the PULSE nightclub massacre in Orlando,
numerous senators, politicians and activist groups commemorated that tragic event
by propagating an absolute falsehood: namely, that the shooter, Omar Mateen,
was motivated by anti-LGBT animus. The evidence is definitive and conclusive
that this is false — Mateen, like so many others who committed similar acts of violence,
was motivated by rage over President Obama’s bombing campaigns in
Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, and chose PULSE at random
without even knowing it was a gay club —
yet this media-consecrated lie continues to fester.”
dav
you do know that your quotes have no source provided..
If you don’t mind me asking,
what were your thoughts after reading the factual
account of what happened in Orlando?
Do you think that the public were purposely misinformed
by msm or were they helping in manipulating an emotive
tragedy for an imperialist and colonial invader to distract and
deflect from their war crimes and illegal invasions and occupations?
Something we all need to be more aware of and vigilant against,
given the fact that the Pentagon war drums can be heard again
off in the distance.
SOQ
Personally I tend towards the middle ground on that one- which isn’t like me but anyways. It is entirely possible that there was a dual motive- homophobia and international politics- I don’t see why the two are mutually exclusive.
As for the media angle, yes running with one deflected from the other- we’ll never know if that was intentional, it probably was.
Nigel
People just went with the idea that a dreadful attack in a gay club was homophobic. Obvious, understandable, and apparently wrong. If the Pentagon was behind the misapprehension seems more likely they would have emphasised it as a terrorist attack to justify Syrian intervention. Heck they could still have tacked it to the lgbtq angle with an added ‘Muslims hate gays so it’s ok to bomb ’em’ effect. So, you’re reaching I think. More evidence of the corporate gutting of journalism, or the difficulty of actual facts in pushing back against first impressions, especially when those first impressions are traumatic and horrible.
italia'90
I see you’re still deflecting from the truth and facts with your “apparently wrong”?
WHAT the aF?!
Established facts are facts and don’t have emotions or deniability.
It’s quite simple really.
You are one of the worst purveyors of disinformation and “official” narratives
on this site. Always forming your opinions before all the facts, just opinions or circumstantial details, are reported objectively.
You have lots of company too, so there’s that.
Thankfully, there are still a few commenters left on here who
don’t always agree with some of your more obvious bullsh..
You seem to have this brain rot so ingrained inside that you are never wrong – this conceit of moral superiority, and you never reflect about why would the news media or biased opinionated talking heads ever try to lie to us about countries we bomb because they have our natural resources buried in their land?
You rightly call out the bs from GB Poos but never call out the equally harmful bs from CNN, MSNBC, TYT, Guardian, Times and various other cos playing Progressives/leftists. Why?
Are some fascists and imperialists more cozier and virtue signalling better for the smooth brain internet clout than the obvious click bait merchants?
I hope you’re watching as the TYTanic is going down again.
italia'90
You do know that you haven’t used “thanks blushirts”
since pre-covid times?
You’ve changed mannn…
scottser
Israeli government not in a wet day and they permit an ultranationalist march through Palestinian communities, fire rubber bullets at the protestors and finish off with an airstrike on Gaza.
Silly boo boos is all they are.
Lilly
+ 1 And anyone who dares object is an anti-Semite.
Sad. I thought things would get better after ben the yahoo.
Formerly known as @ireland.com
The Express celebrating the Free Trade Agreement with Australia. It is worth 0.02% to their GDP. In 15 years, tariffs protecting British farmers will be at zero. What a great deal. I am sure the Brexiters voted for that. I wonder how the DUP voting farmers up north feel about this.
Shane
I think the 15 year pledge has been dropped. Tariffs will be at zero after signing. British farmers are being battered from all sides
Donald McCarthy
Might not the aussies engineer their exports to return as imports?
Gary Flood
: )
Formerly known as @ireland.com
I see what you did there. That is what happens with Aussie iron ore – export it and then import when it is processed.
GiggidyGoo
They had the benefit of a trade agreement with australia already, via the EU. Along with many other EU trade agreements.
Isn’t Australia part of the commonwealth, and the Queen head of state? So he got an agreement with himself then?
Formerly known as @ireland.com
Ivor the Fat person has blocked me on Twitter. I presume he didn’t like data that didn’t fit his narrative. He is just another shonky (dodgy) beggar.
SOQ
Dr Byram Bridle is an associate Professor of Viral Immunology University of Guelph, Ontario, Canada. His entire research program focuses on vaccines so the least likely person to be an anti-vaxxer possible.
If he is right – all CoVid-19 vaccine rollouts should be halted immediately.
Will we ever look at medical scientists and doctors in the same light again?
Clampers Outside
Good link that with lots of follow up links. Thanks SOQ.
On your question of trust… No, I’ll never take the word of any specialist without some link to source material behind their reasoning. That is, they’ll be treated in the same way I consume the media.
Again, top link SOQ!
By the way, there was a paper on how the spike protein/bodies interpretation of was observed in a study to cross the brain barrier. The paper was in pre-print and going for peer review a few weeks ago. If you hear or see any update on that one, please do post, as will I.
SOQ
What I don’t get is the bloody scaremongering, on both sides- why? The whole thing has become so politicised and is I suspect- all about money. Pfizer is set to make 15 billion out of their vaccine apparently.
John Campbell has done another Ivermectin video, this time with a study from Israel- he is challenging Whitty et al to make an official response.
Will we ever look at medical scientists and doctors in the same light again?
Daisy Chainsaw
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-canada-technology-gun-politics-religion-a7dd90823ca346534f1087ba0b1071b1
“The spike protein is immunogenic, meaning it causes an immune response, but it is not a toxin,” said William Matchett, a vaccine researcher at the University of Minnesota Medical School.”
“Dr. Adam Ratner, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at NYU Langone Health, said that vaccines are mostly concentrated at the site of injection or the local lymph nodes. “What was said in the radio show was completely inaccurate,” Ratner said.“
Clampers Outside
SOQ posted a link to Dr Birdles own website above where much of what Birdle said is disputed.
The Dr even posts multiple links to research disputing what he says. Fair dues to that Dr who is giving both sides. And fair play to SOQ who is posting both conversations.
I love balance me :)
SOQ
Nope that website is nothing to do with Birdle- it’s picking apart what he is saying?
The picture of the duck = quack- gettit?
Clampers Outside
LOL… that duck flew over my head :)
Fair dues for posting it all the same!
goldenbrown
maybe Uri’s brainwaves can save FF
lol
Cú Chulainn
Maybe… but I don’t remember England winning at Euro 96… but, didn’t he shift that tanker that got stuck in the Suez Canal recently..!!!
Clampers Outside
Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier arrived in the post yesterday :)
Many “progressives” have tried to ban the book from the US to Australia. Yet it made The Times ‘Best books of the year’ list, and The Economist’s ‘Best book of the year’.
When done, it will sit nicely on the shelf beside Gallileo’s Middle Finger. It’s good to stay informed.
Cú Chulainn
Hopefully they’ll get there in the end..
Clampers Outside
Some people on here come t as if Brexit isn’t happening. And make snide remarks about the UK which appear to come from nowhere but spite.
Do they not realise it will be to OUR benefit for the UK to do well.
I for one am hoping they do do well.
Clampers Outside
^comment
Janet, dreams of an alternate universe
I’m pretty sure all my lot will be voting leave for Scotland, they didn’t want to leave Europe and you know ….Sasanachs
Clampers Outside
And good luck to them too :)
Formerly known as @ireland.com
I highlight the issues that the Tories and Brexiters are causing in the UK. I think most Irish people would prefer if Brexit didn’t happen. Now that it has, there is schadenfreude in highlighting the reality of Brexit. The flag wavers have it coming, too.
Clampers Outside
I’m passed the schadenfreude and hoping they do well at this point :)
Formerly known as @ireland.com
I want the good people of Britain to ‘take back control’.
Johnny
“We are at the dawn of a new age and the implications of AI technology for humans are almost unimaginable. Welcome to The Age of AI.”
Tony Stark/Downey hosted and executive produced one of YouTube’s most successful series,the eight-episode docuseries “The Age of A.I.” on YouTube.
i think Stripe is the most fascinating and interesting Irish company,vastly overvalued but making a global impact.
Most what i read is behind paywalls,as good research and journalism costs lots money,a really great deep dive.
“In today’s briefing, we’ll delve into every facet of the company (and inevitably leave much unsaid) with particular reference to:
Patrick and John’s origins
Stripe’s early days
Product as offense and defense
Patient recruitment, cultural touchstones, and soft power
M&A and Stripe’s coy venture arm
Competition and where Stripe may lose
The next 10 years”
That front page story in the Independent: “Revealed: Grim toll of Covid pandemic on our children”
“Among the Ombudsman’s immediate concerns are the welfare of children due to abuse, neglect or other issues that went under the radar due to school closures and whose stories have not yet come to the fore”
If it were a more honest piece of journalism it might say:
“Revealed: Grim toll of the government’s wildly disproportionate Covid response on our children”
Johnny
“Today is Day 472. Today is Tuesday.” And effective immediately, state-mandated COVID restrictions are eliminated, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said as he announced New York had achieved his 70% vaccine milestone early”
“The Enduring False Narrative About the PULSE Massacre Shows
the Power of Media Propaganda
Politicians and activists should stop ratifying the fiction that Omar Mateen
was motivated by anti-LGBT hatred. It dishonours the victims and obscures the real motive.”
“On the fifth anniversary of the PULSE nightclub massacre in Orlando,
numerous senators, politicians and activist groups commemorated that tragic event
by propagating an absolute falsehood: namely, that the shooter, Omar Mateen,
was motivated by anti-LGBT animus. The evidence is definitive and conclusive
that this is false — Mateen, like so many others who committed similar acts of violence,
was motivated by rage over President Obama’s bombing campaigns in
Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, and chose PULSE at random
without even knowing it was a gay club —
yet this media-consecrated lie continues to fester.”
you do know that your quotes have no source provided..
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=The+Enduring+False+Narrative+About+the+PULSE+Massacre
Take your pick.
If you don’t mind me asking,
what were your thoughts after reading the factual
account of what happened in Orlando?
Do you think that the public were purposely misinformed
by msm or were they helping in manipulating an emotive
tragedy for an imperialist and colonial invader to distract and
deflect from their war crimes and illegal invasions and occupations?
Something we all need to be more aware of and vigilant against,
given the fact that the Pentagon war drums can be heard again
off in the distance.
Personally I tend towards the middle ground on that one- which isn’t like me but anyways. It is entirely possible that there was a dual motive- homophobia and international politics- I don’t see why the two are mutually exclusive.
As for the media angle, yes running with one deflected from the other- we’ll never know if that was intentional, it probably was.
People just went with the idea that a dreadful attack in a gay club was homophobic. Obvious, understandable, and apparently wrong. If the Pentagon was behind the misapprehension seems more likely they would have emphasised it as a terrorist attack to justify Syrian intervention. Heck they could still have tacked it to the lgbtq angle with an added ‘Muslims hate gays so it’s ok to bomb ’em’ effect. So, you’re reaching I think. More evidence of the corporate gutting of journalism, or the difficulty of actual facts in pushing back against first impressions, especially when those first impressions are traumatic and horrible.
I see you’re still deflecting from the truth and facts with your “apparently wrong”?
WHAT the aF?!
Established facts are facts and don’t have emotions or deniability.
It’s quite simple really.
You are one of the worst purveyors of disinformation and “official” narratives
on this site. Always forming your opinions before all the facts, just opinions or circumstantial details, are reported objectively.
You have lots of company too, so there’s that.
Thankfully, there are still a few commenters left on here who
don’t always agree with some of your more obvious bullsh..
You seem to have this brain rot so ingrained inside that you are never wrong – this conceit of moral superiority, and you never reflect about why would the news media or biased opinionated talking heads ever try to lie to us about countries we bomb because they have our natural resources buried in their land?
You rightly call out the bs from GB Poos but never call out the equally harmful bs from CNN, MSNBC, TYT, Guardian, Times and various other cos playing Progressives/leftists. Why?
Are some fascists and imperialists more cozier and virtue signalling better for the smooth brain internet clout than the obvious click bait merchants?
I hope you’re watching as the TYTanic is going down again.
You do know that you haven’t used “thanks blushirts”
since pre-covid times?
You’ve changed mannn…
Israeli government not in a wet day and they permit an ultranationalist march through Palestinian communities, fire rubber bullets at the protestors and finish off with an airstrike on Gaza.
Silly boo boos is all they are.
+ 1 And anyone who dares object is an anti-Semite.
Sad. I thought things would get better after ben the yahoo.
The Express celebrating the Free Trade Agreement with Australia. It is worth 0.02% to their GDP. In 15 years, tariffs protecting British farmers will be at zero. What a great deal. I am sure the Brexiters voted for that. I wonder how the DUP voting farmers up north feel about this.
I think the 15 year pledge has been dropped. Tariffs will be at zero after signing. British farmers are being battered from all sides
Might not the aussies engineer their exports to return as imports?
: )
I see what you did there. That is what happens with Aussie iron ore – export it and then import when it is processed.
They had the benefit of a trade agreement with australia already, via the EU. Along with many other EU trade agreements.
Isn’t Australia part of the commonwealth, and the Queen head of state? So he got an agreement with himself then?
Ivor the Fat person has blocked me on Twitter. I presume he didn’t like data that didn’t fit his narrative. He is just another shonky (dodgy) beggar.
Dr Byram Bridle is an associate Professor of Viral Immunology University of Guelph, Ontario, Canada. His entire research program focuses on vaccines so the least likely person to be an anti-vaxxer possible.
If he is right – all CoVid-19 vaccine rollouts should be halted immediately.
Brace yourself Brigid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn-vN4ekJfg
And the beat goes on. And on. And on.
On the other side is this- https://byrambridle.com/ – time will tell.
Will we ever look at medical scientists and doctors in the same light again?
Good link that with lots of follow up links. Thanks SOQ.
On your question of trust… No, I’ll never take the word of any specialist without some link to source material behind their reasoning. That is, they’ll be treated in the same way I consume the media.
Again, top link SOQ!
By the way, there was a paper on how the spike protein/bodies interpretation of was observed in a study to cross the brain barrier. The paper was in pre-print and going for peer review a few weeks ago. If you hear or see any update on that one, please do post, as will I.
What I don’t get is the bloody scaremongering, on both sides- why? The whole thing has become so politicised and is I suspect- all about money. Pfizer is set to make 15 billion out of their vaccine apparently.
John Campbell has done another Ivermectin video, this time with a study from Israel- he is challenging Whitty et al to make an official response.
https://youtu.be/R0-90kvoQac?t=624
Either Dr Byram Bridle is right or is wrong.
We should either immediately stop the vaccine rollout or keep rolling it out.
There have been over 2,400,000,000 vaccine jabs done worldwide.
Science is hard.
On the other side is this- https://byrambridle.com/ – time will tell.
Will we ever look at medical scientists and doctors in the same light again?
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-canada-technology-gun-politics-religion-a7dd90823ca346534f1087ba0b1071b1
“The spike protein is immunogenic, meaning it causes an immune response, but it is not a toxin,” said William Matchett, a vaccine researcher at the University of Minnesota Medical School.”
“Dr. Adam Ratner, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at NYU Langone Health, said that vaccines are mostly concentrated at the site of injection or the local lymph nodes. “What was said in the radio show was completely inaccurate,” Ratner said.“
SOQ posted a link to Dr Birdles own website above where much of what Birdle said is disputed.
The Dr even posts multiple links to research disputing what he says. Fair dues to that Dr who is giving both sides. And fair play to SOQ who is posting both conversations.
I love balance me :)
Nope that website is nothing to do with Birdle- it’s picking apart what he is saying?
The picture of the duck = quack- gettit?
LOL… that duck flew over my head :)
Fair dues for posting it all the same!
maybe Uri’s brainwaves can save FF
lol
Maybe… but I don’t remember England winning at Euro 96… but, didn’t he shift that tanker that got stuck in the Suez Canal recently..!!!
Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier arrived in the post yesterday :)
Many “progressives” have tried to ban the book from the US to Australia. Yet it made The Times ‘Best books of the year’ list, and The Economist’s ‘Best book of the year’.
When done, it will sit nicely on the shelf beside Gallileo’s Middle Finger. It’s good to stay informed.
Hopefully they’ll get there in the end..
Some people on here come t as if Brexit isn’t happening. And make snide remarks about the UK which appear to come from nowhere but spite.
Do they not realise it will be to OUR benefit for the UK to do well.
I for one am hoping they do do well.
^comment
I’m pretty sure all my lot will be voting leave for Scotland, they didn’t want to leave Europe and you know ….Sasanachs
And good luck to them too :)
I highlight the issues that the Tories and Brexiters are causing in the UK. I think most Irish people would prefer if Brexit didn’t happen. Now that it has, there is schadenfreude in highlighting the reality of Brexit. The flag wavers have it coming, too.
I’m passed the schadenfreude and hoping they do well at this point :)
I want the good people of Britain to ‘take back control’.
“We are at the dawn of a new age and the implications of AI technology for humans are almost unimaginable. Welcome to The Age of AI.”
Tony Stark/Downey hosted and executive produced one of YouTube’s most successful series,the eight-episode docuseries “The Age of A.I.” on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/5IvQ3fYKnfM
The premier AI event,CogX Festival kicks off in London today and this is a link to a free ticket,AI is dramatically and radically changing farming.
https://cogx.live/programme-items/the-footprint-coalition-with-robert-downey-jnr/
ps-hell lot more speakers/talks than Downey:)
i think Stripe is the most fascinating and interesting Irish company,vastly overvalued but making a global impact.
Most what i read is behind paywalls,as good research and journalism costs lots money,a really great deep dive.
“In today’s briefing, we’ll delve into every facet of the company (and inevitably leave much unsaid) with particular reference to:
Patrick and John’s origins
Stripe’s early days
Product as offense and defense
Patient recruitment, cultural touchstones, and soft power
M&A and Stripe’s coy venture arm
Competition and where Stripe may lose
The next 10 years”
https://www.readthegeneralist.com/briefing/stripe
AI conf live/on demand.
https://cogx.live/
That front page story in the Independent:
“Revealed: Grim toll of Covid pandemic on our children”
“Among the Ombudsman’s immediate concerns are the welfare of children due to abuse, neglect or other issues that went under the radar due to school closures and whose stories have not yet come to the fore”
If it were a more honest piece of journalism it might say:
“Revealed: Grim toll of the government’s wildly disproportionate Covid response on our children”
“Today is Day 472. Today is Tuesday.” And effective immediately, state-mandated COVID restrictions are eliminated, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said as he announced New York had achieved his 70% vaccine milestone early”
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/nyers-await-cuomo-update-on-restrictions-after-cdc-says-state-hit-70-vaccine-goal/3106907/
600,000 sick and elderly many with preexisting conditions,oh like morbidly obese,heavy smokers are now dead ‘due’ to covid in states.
Plus one-Cuomo is a dead,man walking,politically.
How was the government’s Covid response disproportionate?
oh FFS-Cuomo had the feds build ‘field’ hospitals,the bloody drama queen his next act is off,off broadway,the ham.
I love Cuomo. No surprise that you hate him
What government are you talking about? The Independent article that triggered this was for Ireland.