38 thoughts on “Saturday’s Papers

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      Thanks. Watching some rowing at the mo and Irish rowers are in third which, if they hold on to, will see them through to the semi finals.

  1. Tommy Bohan

    I like your sense of humour Lily!! It’s nearly getting to the stage that if I don’t see Harry, Meghan or Boris on it I will be disappointed! Nothing to be giving about about then. Some first cousin twice removed form of Stockhom Syndrome or something!

    1. SOQ

      Peru had the hardest lockdown in the world- also the highest number of deaths- they don’t work.

        1. f_lawless

          I don’t think that was a balanced piece- and is outdated at this stage anyway (Dec 2020).

          This piece is worth a read by “Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance” which are “a group of highly published, world renowned Critical Care physician/scholars – with the academic support of allied physicians from around the world”, according to their website.

          https://covid19criticalcare.com/videos-and-press/flccc-releases/flccc-alliance-response-to-all-national-and-international-health-agency-recommendations-against-ivermectin-in-covid-19/

          I see Peru gets a mention here:

          ” On January 26 (2021), the FLCCC emailed the NIH Panel a recently completed manuscript by the analysts Chamie et al. where they analyzed vast amounts of publicly available (and verifiable) epidemiologic data.8 They found conclusive evidence (after ruling out multiple possible confounders) that widespread ivermectin distribution campaigns repeatedly and closely preceded large reductions in both COVID-19 case-fatality rates and “excess deaths” measured in many regions of Peru and other countries.”

          1. Cian

            Peru?
            The country that has lost 1 out of every 200 people that were alive 18 months ago?
            The country with the highest reported covid deaths?
            The country that shows matching excess deaths?
            The country with “the hardest lockdown in the world”?

            You are actually claiming Peru as an ivermectin success story?

          2. GiggidyGoo

            @Cian. Except, your references don’t state whether it was used on the people who died or not.

        2. Clampers Outside

          Ivermectin has its place and the studies that are in say so.
          74 independent studies on its effectiveness with many yet to come to an end.
          Time will tell, but it does look good for Ivermectin.

          1. Clampers Outside

            It wasn’t from that site I first heard of the 74 being done, and I can’t recall where I read it… I speed read through it and moved on at the time.

            I got the above link by just googling “74 current ivermectin studies” and grabbed that first one when I read a few of the sources of the studies… the CDC in the US and a number of recogniseable colleges. There were plenty of other links.

      1. MacGafraidh

        Ahhh I remember how you spun the story of how great Sweden was at the time. We should all follow Sweden says SOQ. Sure they’ve more deaths per capita than we do at this stage.

        1. f_lawless

          Recent article worth considering:
          https://fee.org/articles/daily-covid-deaths-in-sweden-hit-zero-as-other-nations-brace-for-more-lockdowns/

          “One country not making much news is Sweden…

          …What are the results of Sweden’s much-derided laissez-faire policy? Data show the 7-day rolling average for COVID deaths yesterday was zero (see below). As in nada. And it’s been at zero for about a week now..

          ..Even a year ago, it was clear the hyperbolic claims about “the Swedish catastrophe” were false; ..But a year later the evidence is overwhelming that Sweden got the pandemic mostly right. Sweden’s overall mortality rate in 2020 was lower than most of Europe and its economy suffered far less. Meanwhile, today Sweden is freer and healthier than virtually any other country in Europe.

          As much of the world remains gripped in fear and nations devise new restrictions to curtail basic freedoms, Sweden remains a vital and shining reminder that there is a better way.”

          1. f_lawless

            Actually that final paragraph I wouldn’t entirely agree with considering Sweden was one of the first in Europe to implement the “vaccine passport” system for travel. It’s never black and white

          2. SOQ

            Problem is, if they admit Sweden was right then by default the rest were wrong- and they are not going to do that.

            Anyways, I am in Belfast- along with half of Dublin by the looks of it. Never in my life did I imagine I’d be in agreement with the DUP- strange times indeed.

      2. Formerly known as @ireland.com

        @SOQ – I keep telling you that Melbourne went from 700 a day to zero. They work great but you have to control the incoming virus. You can’t have it arriving on the next plane/train/boat. A leak from Sydney has caused another lockdown in Melbourne. We are heading towards zero, again.

        1. Clampers Outside

          Sydney went into lockdown this week when 111 cases out of 82,000 tests, and there was death of a man in his 80s.

          Lockdowns on this scale with those figures are bananas.

  2. GiggidyGoo

    The boo boo yesterday by persons unknown who couldn’t spell the word ‘certificate’has been rectified. They have a new site http://www.irishcovidcertportal.com.

    This has thrown up a number of questions though.

    We have a Government website and we have a HSE website, so why establish a ‘.org’ website for this?
    Who owns the website? The GDPR applies to both data processors and data controllers.
    So, who are these for this website?
    Has the function been outsourced?
    The website registrar is Wild West Domains
    It’s hosted on http://www.secureserver.net which is based in Chicago as far as I can ascertain. Doesn’t that mean that personal data of Irish people is being transferred onto a US based server? Your full name, PPS number, Mobile Phone No. , email address and date of birth being shared with all sorts?

    Why wasn’t this put on the HSE’s own website?

    1. GiggidyGoo

      irishcovidcertportal.org
      Ooppps. I made a boo boo. Can I have a government job please? Minister for health perhaps?

      1. Cian

        That url points to
        IPv4 address for irishcovidcertportal.org
        Domain Name Server IP: 20.67.211.168

        And that IP resolves to
        ISP: Microsoft Corporation
        In Dublin.

        https://www.whatismyip.com/20.67.211.168/

        My guess is that it is being hosted in Dublin in Microsoft’s data centre. So, no, your data isn’t being transferred to the US.

        As for GDPR. Regardless of where the physical servers are located the HSE is responsible for GDPR for that data.

        1. GiggidyGoo

          Any idea why this isn’t part of the HSEs own site? It seems a bit odd and a bit unprofessional.

          And kudos to those students who acted responsibly cutting off the possibility of some scammer lifting lots of information, by directing visitors to the proper site.

          Incidentally, type in that Ip address and you get a warning that the site isn’t secure, and that someone may be trying to steal your information. Not good for a government department.

          1. Cian

            @GiggidyGoo
            Why? I can think of a few reasons. Speed (how fast to set up a domain/get a https cert) being one. Security being another.

            Yes, kudos to the students.

            You aren’t technical. just Stop, you’re embarrassing yourself.

    1. GiggidyGoo

      Over the past few weeks, all sorts of links have been posted here to prove this and that about covid figures etc. There is, however, a common actor in many of them, and a very quick look at the ourworldindata.org reveals that common actor. Oxford University. Ourworldindata.org collates data from places such as Oxford. One has to ask whether such data is correct or not, seeing as Oxford has skin in the game.

  3. Johnny

    ….its the graft,the votes for favours,the comps for favoured hacks,the free rooms,looking the other way when the married TD gets a bit tired and emotional,the seedy down on its heel place to go drink yourself to death,or smoke crack with a hooker.

    the hotel industry is awful shape,with two bit rent by the hour hotels like Fitzpatricks,getting used as homeless shellers.

    “CoStar has reported, and the market is in a depression. The occupancy rate in June was 63 percent for open hotels, but just 50 percent when accounting for closed ones. In the summers before the pandemic, it was closer to 90 percent.”

    https://therealdeal.com/2021/07/23/nyc-hotels-getting-busier-but-still-struggling/

    Ireland can do a lot better than this,Fitz needs so much help,his hotels are in awful shape.

    …he’s got like a few hundred rooms,the whiole thing is based on him leaning into the new mayor of new york,so the residents of new york can give Fitz a hand out,really ambassador, can Ireland and the IT not represent the new of irish with a bit more class.

    always with the favor and begging bowl,is that the deputy ambassador in the corner:)

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/this-is-your-city-presumptive-next-mayor-of-new-york-pays-tribute-to-irish-americans-1.4623983

  4. Johnny

    “Stella O’Leary, president of the Irish American Democrats group, which works to highlight Irish issues on Capitol Hill and in the White House, said that it was heartening to see the election of Joe Biden to the White House after four years of president Donald Trump, noting that the Irish-American vote had helped to deliver the election to the Democratic candidate in key swing states.”

    …oh please Suzanne Lynch,give it a rest i’ve credit cards with bigger balances.HIGHLIGHT-this is all you- this this is her highlight nothing nowhere else ever notices oul Stella.

    Total Raised $72,364
    Total Spent $47,168

    https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/laborers-union/C00320432/summary/2020

    where does the IT hack based in DC stay when attending events in NY,same place the RTE one does ?

    are they related?
    https://irishamerica.com/2016/06/stella-oleary-2/

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