35 thoughts on “Thursday’s Papers

  1. f_lawless

    Noteworthy piece of citizen journalism here.

    https://citizenjournos.com/2021/10/06/confirmed-the-mater-hospital-was-not-full-of-unvaccinated-20-30-year-olds-on-ventilators-on-the-22nd-july/

    “It’s shockingly surprising how many medical professionals take to social media to make false claims regarding COVID-19, but it does happen quite regularly. When we spot it, we expose it.

    On the 22nd July 2021, an ICU doctor at the Mater Hospital in Belfast tweeted that the hospital was full of people in their 20 & 30s who were unvaccinated and on ventilators… “

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        1. SOQ

          If there is one lesson to be learned from the whole HIV / Aids thing Cian, it is that treatment is always more profitable that cure.

          You’d nearly think pharmaceutical companies are by nature altruistic the way you lot defend them.

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          1. Micko

            Ah come on Cian.

            While I agree that big Pharma aren’t some sort of Lex Luthor style “Legion of Doom” sitting around a boardroom thinking how they can destroy the world, they are a business and at the end of the day, and profit is of course their main motivation.

            To think that they wouldn’t be interested in NOT permanantly curing an illness and prolonging a patient receiving care over their entire life is just naive, bordering on a childish view of the world.

            “Explain why Big Pharma is producing vaccines?”

            Ummm… when you getting yer booster then?

          2. SOQ

            HIV / AIDS really is the golden goose. Not only are infected people on life time medication, but same is now being used as a prophylaxis- pharma win win.

            Given what people like me know about the carryon at the begining about patents, it is not a huge leap to assume the same profit motive has been consistent throughout.

            Of course Fauci was involved in that too.

      1. alickdouglas

        Except that hydroxy and every single other malaria prophylaxis is inappropriately used and parasite resistance is spreading. Just this week there was further confirmation that resistance to artemesenin is firmly established in Africa.
        The clinical evaluation of mosquirix, from its outset, was designed to examine the use of the vaccine in areas where bednets and antimalarial comnbination therapy was in heavy use. This is one of the main reasons that development to this stage has taken so long, and why demonstration of impact is difficult to ascertain. What is certain is that for malaria, the foundation of prophylaxis that public health campaigns rely on is crumbling, and vaccines are by far the most obvious path forward. The vaccine is designed to bridge children across the period in their lives when they are immunologically most at risk of malaria. Waning efficacy in this case is actually an important part of the product’s mode of action becasue it permits a gradual replacement of vaccine-induced immunity with naturally acquired immunity.

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    1. Rosette of Sirius

      Jesus, what have you done? Whatever about the Bill Gates hate here over the past year or so now it’s gonna explode….

      By the way, I’ve knows this day was coming for a number of years. The Seattle based, and B&MGF funded health focused nonprofit PATH (of whom I have a relationship with) have worked on this for years and it’s great to see this work move out of clinical trials. Trials in Kenya, Ghana and elsewhere to huge success.

      The group to most benefit from this vaccine are of course children predominantly based in sub Saharan Africa. A place where vaccines are demonstrably more effective than oral medication.

      Especially in rural communities where – believe me – life is unimaginable for many of you all here.

      So let’s sit back and watch them project anti vax madness on a program underway long before COVID was ever a thing.

      And don’t worry, when they’re off to Thailand or wherever on their next exotic jolly, Their DEET and Malarone prophylaxis will be there waiting for them.

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    2. alickdouglas

      In brief, it’s potentially good news for malaria control initiatives that target severe disease and death in young children in the most (Plasmodium falciparum) endemic parts of Africa. It won’t impact on malaria for travelers, adults, or areas where malaria is due to other species (such as most of Asia and Latin America).

      On paper RTS,S was designed to bridge kids across the period where they are at most risk of death from falciparum malaria; when the antibodies from their mothers wane, and they haven’t yet built up enough of their own immunity to be protected against the worst imapcts of the parasites.

      The Phase III results were hard to interpret, in large part due to the complexity of diagnosing what severity of disease is for malaria, and there were some safety signals, a peculiar imbalance of reports of meningitis for girls who received the vaccine being the main one. The primary endpoint suggested that protection was about 50%, but the population splits were complex, and there were a raft of secondary data readouts looking at other measures of effect, suggesting that the vaccine was more efficacious. Hence WHO proposed to have a limited roll out to permit recruitment of a larger number of subjects to provide more robust data. Another important factor is that young children in the worst impacted areas tend to have multiple episodes of malaria every year, so there are issues about how you measure the effect of the vaccine; do you want to be preventing cases, or suppressing severe disease etc.

      The RTS,S vaccine was always about being integrated into the malaria control system in sub-Saharan Africa; alongside artem combinations and bednets. There’s a fairly recent study in NEJM that shows that when given alongside a regimen of antimalarials, you see much more impressive impact. Yesterday’s decision basically means that the vaccine is ‘approved’ for procurement by UN agencies (essentially UNICEF), so it means that countries the poorest countries in the region (and by implication, those most burdened by malaria) can acquire the vaccine and incorporate it into their infant vaccination schedules.

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        1. alickdouglas

          Ah, I’m not a fan of this notion of ‘traditional’ vs ‘non-traditional’. Most vaccines have unique aspects that catch you by surprise during development. That said I know what you are getting at. The antigen part is heavily based on the technology behind the Engerix Hep B vaccine. Essentially they adapted the yeast that is used to propagate the HBsAg for Engerix B so that it also expresses one of the malaria parasite proteins, circumsporozoite protein. One of the head-scratchers for the product has always been that it generates anti HBV and anti Malaria responses. Oxford’s malaria candidate vaccine that was in the press a few months ago is essentially a copy of the technology, but the anti-HBV expression is turned off so it only generatates an anti malaria response.
          Malaria requires potent immune responses, so the vaccine also contains a potent adjuvant, AS01; it’s very similar to the adjuvant in Shingrix (Shingles vaccine) and Fendrix, an adjuvanted version of Engerix that’s indicated for dialysis patients and others at risk of waning immunity vs. Hep B.

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  2. goldenbrown

    so Coveney is gonna be made attend that oul Partition party? what a ‘mare
    can’t wait to see how the language is crafted
    spin cycle set @1400rpm
    lol

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    1. bisted

      …of course Coveney will attend the partition celebration…probably intended to all along…there was a small opportunity to not just de-politicise but to secularise this sham…FFG seem to have a vested interest in maintaining the bond between church and state…

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  3. Gabby

    Irish Daily Mail on the good old fashioned prefeminist dating rules. Us auld fellas can make gallant passes without being slapped.

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    1. Janet, dreams of an alternate universe

      I miss the gallent passes that make up life in France, everyone knows the difference between an appropriate flirt and a filthy perv, it makes life more playful, it’s a good ego massage and there’s nothing to stop you throwing around the odd compliment if not your knickers ( people also know the flirting is just the game and won’t necessarily go anywhere), here a lad has to be her eyed to even eyeball you ( in general ),
      however I shudder to imagine the content of that article, is it let him pay kind of stuff ?

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  4. ian-oG

    The Daily Express wants to have sex with Boris Johnson, its the only explanation I can think for their headlines about him?

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      1. ian-oG

        Love him or hate him, Churchill was a smart guy.

        Boris is not. But to the morons he surrounds himself with and the plebs impressed by a bit of carpe diem he does seem clever.

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  5. Fergalito

    Anyone remember controversial (US military developed) malaria prevention drug branded as “Lariam” (or Mefloquine as it’s properly called) and the pretty severe side-effects reported? Or have the misfortune of taking it and experiencing its side-effects?

    I took it prior to going to Vietnam in the mid-90s and not too long afterwards noticed some pretty scary impacts on my mental health and general sense of well-being – depression, anxiety, panic-attacks and that general category-cocktail of malaise. Lasted for months, didn’t equate with taking Lariam until I got a land when i saw a piece about it on the BBC where others who had taken it spoke to the same specific “neurotoxic” side-effects I had been experiencing. Some far more severe than mine – psychosis for example and schizophrenia. Mine passed, eventually, after a few months.

    Read about it at this link or if you don’t like this random website i picked just check anywhere and you’ll find pretty much the same story:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1847738/

    What’s the purpose of me even making mention of it?

    Day after day on BS we see the same arguments – polar opposite views in a lot of cases where most with sincerely held beliefs (I’m not commenting on the merit of either) have a particular point of view and express it vociferously. I don’t believe in any extreme Big Pharma conspiracies outside of the battle between “greed” and “good” which is pretty much manifest in any environment where something of value or potential value is at stake and political systems are constructed to welcome lobbying from all and sundry in the context of corporations. It’s human nature – a flawed part to it – and plays out on a smaller scale in relationships and interactions that people or groups have with each other in the general sense.

    I can’t process, consolidate and assess the reams and reams of data available on Covid vaccines. I see isolated data excerpts (pro and anti) published here and elsewhere on a daily basis which are pointless and most of the time don’t tell any story or are just anecdotal. All that’s provided is a glimpse in isolation which is meaningless – like rooting through someone’s bin-bags to find out about them. I’m not an epidemiologist. I’m not a statistician or data analyst. I can’t pretend to know what I’m talking about, or I won’t to be more accurate.

    What i’m trying to say i suppose is I’ve a healthy distrust of the information I’m being fed – I don’t blindly swallow what i’m told in the media nor do i lean towards the extreme in terms of conspiracies. What i do know is that FDA approved drugs have in the past turned out to be dangerous. I’m not saying the Covid vaccine is but what i don’t get is the disciple like adherence to the different versions of the truth espoused on both sides of the argument. It is not for me to say or tell anyone what they can or cannot believe.

    Is it possible that the longer term side effects of the Covid vaccine might prove to be severe? Of course it is. Likewise the opposite is true, the Covid vaccine may prove in retrospect to be the panacea that proved to be a springboard in returning to normality.

    What i don’t get is how everyone is so sure of themselves.

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    1. SOQ

      Well said Fergalito- a balance between healthy cynicism of the profit driven pharma industry with a criminal record of bribery and corruption and, difficulty accepting that there is some great global plan to enslave us all is I think, pretty much how most people feel.

      As someone was reared up north however, I am very aware that conspiracies are real and conspiracies do exist, because there were horrible things which happened back then, which could not be classed as anything else.

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  6. :-Joe

    FWIW… Some info from the dark net multiverse of Crypto….

    BTC Bitcoin appearing bullish and pushing into all-time high territory by going parabolic again to 55.75K.

    On the upside, now the price action is pulling back, which is healthy bbut it needs to consolodate and build structure and support as a platform to climb higher.

    On the downside, The “Crypto Fear & Greed Index” moved from 68 to 76 into the “Extreme Greed” area overnight.
    https://alternative.me/crypto/fear-and-greed-index/
    If it keeps going further to 80-85-90 then expect an increasingly likely and greater sell-off / short bearish scenario.

    If support above 49K is not held then Bullish momentum is over and it’s in the hands of the Bears.

    Any price below 57K, technically a monthly or at least a weekly chart close is still within a Bear Market despite any temporarily extremely bullish / possibly manipulated price action.

    The technical price target of 38K and many various lower targets from 34K, 25K, 18K down to 11K(e.g. CME Futures Gaps) are all still possible.

    38K is still a conservative estimate before bouncing to the moon or even 100K which is by far easier to achieve.

    The discount clearance sale may already be gone(Not likely) but if not, no problem, buy every dip if you’re speculating.

    Otherwise, for the long term use DCA as a strategy to Invest into BTC / Crypto at anytime with any amount to beat inflation and every other useless banker-profit run finance plan that’s supposed to be the best way to go.

    Eddie Hobbs is warning about inflation now..

    Nobody warning about how insane it is not to invest in Digitised economics, digital finance, Smart contracts, DEFI, Web 2.0, Crypto, Bitcoin… etc etc. Future of money, already here. etc etc.

    No education, discussion or debate let alone any investment into any of this, apart froim pretending it’s bad and privately lining their pockets with it… by the so-called Irish government… Governing what exactly?

    A 100 years of ff/fg tyranny by way of greed, patriarchy and ignorance.

    Opinion / Not Financial Advice.

    :-J

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