20 thoughts on “Wednesday’s Papers

  1. ce

    Seanie, “Set out to win rather than do harm” – in order to win at banking you must do harm, and if you are not conscious of that fact then you are deluded

  2. ce

    Once again the WW set’s the appropriate tone compared to our “news papers”…

    “It’s important to remind people not to speak ill of the dead even if they refused to apologise for presiding over the collapse of a bank which bankrupted the country, or indeed if they suggested cutting spending on children, the elderly and health care to pay for said bailout”

    https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2021/11/09/reason-your-children-are-saddled-with-debt-passes-away-aged-73/

    Keep voting FF/FG and mad independents for more of the same…

    1. benblack

      “De mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est.”

      They’re in a different place now and need all the help they can get.

          1. bisted

            …just when you thought the infamy of Seany Fitz could not grow any further he demolished that long held belief that you do not speak ill of the dead…

          2. ce

            Bit worried about the revisionism by Irish Banking and Business about what led to the Celtic Kitty…

            https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/se%C3%A1n-fitzpatrick-public-opprobrium-contrasts-with-praise-over-pre-celtic-tiger-role-1.4724031

            “Ex-Anglo Irish chief ‘unfairly vilified’ over financial collapse, say business people “… who themselves contributed to the bankruptcy of the country and Irish politics… and frankly accross the globe…

    2. GiggidyGoo

      Let’s not forget the aiding and abetting of the destruction of the economy, and lives in particular, by Noonan and Co. It all ties in together. Noonan allowed those with €10m and less in loans from Anglo off scot free from investigation, and allowed them keep the money/whatever they bought. Many in that bracket were….bankers, TDs etc. etc.

  3. SOQ

    NHS to lose tens of thousands of staff over mandatory Covid vaccines

    A government analysis has predicted 73,000 NHS workers, and 35,000 care workers, will not have had their Covid-19 jab by the time mandatory vaccines come into force on 1 April next year.

    It has warned, “any reduction in the numbers of health and social care staff may lead to reduced or delayed services. The health system is currently stretched with an elective waiting list of 5.72 million and high levels of vacancies.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-staff-lost-covid-vaccines-b1954890.html

    Why April 1st next year? This is of course the professions who have previously been most exposed to SARS-CoV-2, so is there any exemption for such people as they will have already gotten life long immunity?

    1. george

      We don’t know the long-term effects of the vaccine but we do somehow know that they have life-long immunity.

      1. SOQ

        People who had SARS1 are still immune nearly twenty years later. We don’t know for certain if immunity from SARS-CoV-2 is lifelong as it may wane, but there is no evidence of such so far. The type of immunity is also broader than the short lived vaccine sort apparently.

        As for vaccines themselves, if SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity is not life long then you can be certain that no vaccine will be either- it is the immune system which does the work either way.

        I just checked- NHS workers with anti bodies are to be forced to take it too, and it is likely that by then, at least one booster will also be required.

    2. Junkface

      I saw a report on Israel yesterday. They got a handle on their covid wave from 4 or 5 months ago, once they figured out the best type of booster to give the danger age groups. The data is there, they can prove it with their hospital records.

      1. SOQ

        For now- but what happens when the boosters start to wane too? And there is no reason to assume that they will not. So how often does this have to be repeated? Every 6 months? 3 months? 1 month?

        And what damage is it doing to people’s immune systems? There is already more injuries and fatalities than any single vaccine in living memory, and the medium let alone long term safety data is not even available yet.

        And with regular occurrence now, scientists and doctors keep popping up making horrific predictions about the longer term. This is Dr Kevin Stillwagon from Orange County in the US.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kb4JZPaY4Y

        1. Junkface

          Hmmm… not so sure about that SOQ. These vaccines have been given to millions worldwide by now. There will always be some people who have a bad reaction, I’d say the percentages are very low compared to the high numbers of vaccinated people worldwide. There are also a lot of different vaccines, but I think Pfizer probably have the best and most reliable one.

          The long term effect on the body are far worse from covid 19 than any vaccine, and we don’t know the long term effects on the immune system. I pick vaccine over virus every time.

          Like I mentioned yesterday, this virus will mutate more than any other in the contagiousness factor, as it was designed that way. Boosters needed every 6 months is not a problem, its a solution.

          1. SOQ

            Actually no- the % of injuries is way above anything seen before- that is right across UK, EU and US systems.

            As for long term effects- we don’t know what that will be as yet because it is an experiential gene therapy. The main difference identified so far is that the illness is very age and BMI specific- while the injuries are not.

            I don’t think it is going to go down the multiple booster route at all because there is a number of pill based treatments awaiting approval.

            Once that happens, the vaccine emergency use authorisation will be pulled, because there is alternative treatments available.

            Time will tell. The best any of us can do is make what we consider to be an educated guess right now.

  4. Shayna

    Austin Currie R.I.P. A fellow Tyronian fearlessly campaigned for Civil Rights, illuminating the disparity of basic human rights afforded to Catholics versus Protestants in The North of Ireland. His squatting of a council house allocated to the daughter of a Unionist Council member of Dungannon District Council in Caledon, Tyrone in 1968, demonstrated the outrageous bias against Catholics and sparked the whole Civil Rights Movement.

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