64 thoughts on “Wednesday’s Papers

  1. Steph Pinker

    The Irish Examiner has it all – well done Holohan, yet again.

    Sickening.

    So many aspects of our health and legal systems have to change, we need due process through class action suits in Ireland, things have to change, otherwise psychopaths like Holohan will foster and survive forever without being questioned or held to account.

    Shame on Holohan, shame on Reid, shame on HSE, FFG and academics and weedy spineless journalists et al., hang your heads in shame, incompetence and a curse on all your houses – if ye can afford one.

    Such a rotten country we live in and it’s being facilitated every day by fools.

  2. Cú Chulainn

    What I want to know is whats happened to the jackals? And, don’t think we’ve forgotten about those psycho gulls…

    1. Johnny

      Shot.
      Chaser.
      Israel.
      Yemen
      Is it a competition or do you generally follow the news from over there ?

      ….. Although the decision is pending formal approval by senior health official….

      Ah now it’s not even approved,jaysus.

      1. Micko

        “ do you generally follow the news from over there ?”

        Ha! It’s on RTE ya absolute melon.

        And yes, I’m sure they won’t go ahead with it.

          1. Johnny

            Dope.
            Melon.
            Stay classy Mucko-anything good on RTE today :)

            RTE….better than most your ‘sources’ in fairness,but still ah cmon it’s funny,it is.

          2. Johnny

            Not at all I think your hysterical.

            In so many ways.

            -Ah Jeasus now

            Israel to offer over-60s a fourth dose of Covid vaccine

            A spokesperson said Israel would be the world’s first country to administer the fourth shot.-

            Not a word of it true,not one.

            But sure lash into the personal attacks about weed…..when did you first get hysteria….

            Keep us updated on RTE news,I tend not keep up with it.

          3. Johnny

            I took Gracie my dog for a long walk,sadly I stepped in dog poo,despite cleaning it,the smell just lingered……hung around…could not get rid it.
            Ever have that feeling about someone,like they following you around kinda like a bad smell.

          4. Johnny

            Six foot two grown man with the biggest balls in Ireland,who just smiles at the ‘help’,then asks for a table for 3,no,no I don’t why,,none,just my big balls and smile,supposedly eats out few times a week on that in Dublin.
            Now I’ve been out every day in Dublin for lunch and dinner….and on my way breakfast,better bring my smile huh.

            Go ahead big man with the biggest pair balls in Ireland have the last word,ah gwan.

            Your post was incorrect wrong,rubbish,more lies as usual.

        1. Johnny

          …your grandiosity like your BS is tiresome,you have the smallest tiniest pair balls and thinnest skin,a RTE piece on Israel…that you cherry picked from,out of context to further your hysteria and fearmongeting,what you posted,it’s wrong,it is,what’s wrong with can you not read?

    2. Broadbag

      ”at least four months after their third jab” … no big surprise I suppose considering the interval to the 3rd dose/1st booster, also if another nasty variant emerges they’ll quite possibly reduce the interval to 3 months, so we’re looking at 3 or 4 jabs a year until tablets come on stream or a more robust vaccine.

      That said, at the pace they’re moving it could well be in place by 2023 so the 4 jab thing might just be for one year – awfully depressing though for people who reluctantly took the initial double dose thinking that would be it.

      1. Johnny

        ….. Bennett says he hopes health officials will soon approve a fourth dose of the vaccine for relevant populations to protect against infection and serious disease.

        Health Ministry official Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis responds that the issue is under consideration, but that it’s a serious decision….

        https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-december-21-2021/

        Looks a lil hard to take up that ‘offer’ Micko,Jesus Mary and Joseph with the hysterics.

      2. 1-2-1-2

        Why is it depressing? Why would people not do everything possible to mitigate the spread of this plague like illness? Are people really that stupid and or indifferent to the suffering of others?

        1. Broadbag

          The vaccines were sold as being a lot more effective and a lot more long lasting than they are proving to be, I’d imagine a lot of people are dispirited by the likelihood of needing 6+ doses rather than 2, it doesn’t make them ”stupid or indifferent to the suffering of others”, one thought doesn’t preclude the other. You can still be pro-vaccine and disappointed with the current vaccines simultaneously.

          1. Nigel

            ‘The vaccines were sold as being a lot more effective and a lot more long lasting than they are proving to be,’

            There was always the provisio that variants could emerge, and along came Delta. Arguably we caught a break that it wasn’t more vaccine resistant than it is, not that it’s much consolation to the drudgery of the pandemic slog.

    1. Cian

      It will affect anyone who drinks a lot of cheap, strong alcohol purchased in the off-trade, where two-thirds of Ireland’s alcohol is bought.

      1. GiggidyGoo

        Can’t disagree with that Cian. But you can be sure that the pubs will up their prices with the tag ‘minimum alcohol pricing’. What’ll they use as an excuse for for their 280ml bottles of minerals surpassing €3 though?

        1. Cian

          Does any pub sell drink anywhere near the ‘minimum alcohol pricing’?
          The minimum price for a pint of beer (4.3%) will be €1.93; How many pubs will have to raise their prices above €1.93?

          If you’re paying over €3 for your mixer then you have nothing to worry about minimum prices

          1. GiggidyGoo

            Watch this space…or most pub spaces, because they’ll use any excuse.
            Plus many people don’t use the 280ml minerals as mixers. They drink it without alcohol. Making it a more expensive drink than a pint of beer for the same quantity and. ( Maybe that’s a reason why people drink beer rather than soft drinks in a pub even. )

      2. paul

        Vintners rubbing their hands together thinking people will be driven back to pubs with this. Christ.

        Time to break out the toilet wine.

  3. Nigel

    South African omicron study released – still quite tentative in many ways, and ICU/morbidity data not yet available:
    https://twitter.com/danielgoyal/status/1473482159415517191
    Summary:
    ‘Omicron seems to cause significantly less severe disease than recent waves in South Africa, but not less severe disease than Delta is currently in the UK. And, almost certainly, vaccines seem to remain remarkably protective over severe disease….
    Good news = vaccines work.
    No news = Unmitigated Covid-19 will cause problems.’

    1. SOQ

      IT amuses me how some people will tie themselves in mental knots to claim credit for vaccines when the thing behaves exactly the same irrespective of vaccination rates.

        1. SOQ

          It affects the upper respiratory tract only, in the same way as a cold- that much is well accepted. A few may develop complications- same as a cold. Most get over it pretty quickly- SAME AS A COLD.

          1. Nigel

            Five and a half million people have died of it, and many many more experienced severe illness and many of those will suffer long term effects LIKE A COLD.

          2. Chris

            “God knows where he’d be now without three jabs.” – ‘That means its working!’ etc The memes are real. Unfortunately, I doubt some will ever put two & two together.

          3. SOQ

            So strains don’t matter any more is it? No huge increase in hospitalisations or deaths in South Africa and no extra restrictions either. All evidence so far suggests that the Omicron strain is mild- like a cold.

            As for being jabbed and getting very sick- time will tell as to what the real story is there because if the vaccines work as promised then that just doesn’t make sense.

          4. Nigel

            ‘All evidence so far suggests that the Omicron strain is mild- like a cold.’

            Except the data for ICU/morbidity isn’t available, so you only ‘know’ that in the sense that you decided it was the truth as soon as it emerged. ‘As severe as the Delta in the UK ‘ is hardly all that mild.

            You declared Covid no worse than the flue back when this started. five and a half million covid dead later, you’re still trustng your own expertise on the matter.

        2. GiggidyGoo

          When you rely on a link to a report which, in the first sentence of your quotation uses the phrase ‘seems to’ and goes on from there, your understanding of the word ‘analysis’ leaves a lot to be desired.

          1. Nigel

            When your entire assessment of an analysis of an early report of an ongoing epedemilogical event fraught with uncertainty event is shaped by two words which express nothing more than the lack of definitive conclusions so far, you’re not really fit to judge.

            I’m really sorry it can’t quite match your stunning insight about what word you get if you mix the letters around.

    1. Nigel

      ‘shaping up to become endemic in the next season?’

      I’m really not sure you understand what ‘endemic’ actually means.

        1. Nigel

          Yes, that fits with my understanding, though I’m strugglling to relate it to your use of the word. ‘Long term planning’ is literally part of making a disease endemic.

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