The vaccine issue is now taking center stage in the tennis world.Georgia’s No 1 Nikoloz Basilashvili, quits match in Australian open due to breathing difficulties.When in the history of sports have we seen so many top level athletes falling dead or having other issues like that? pic.twitter.com/UGxSNmUtXp
— ZNeveri (@ZNeveri) January 9, 2022
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Meanwhile…
The Qatari match between Al Rayyan and Al-Wakrah saw an away player collapse
Yesterday:
The Qatar Stars League match between Al Rayyan and Al-Wakrah was meant to be just another game. The hosts went into the game in eighth in the table while their opponents were sixth. However, few were thinking about that towards the end of the first half.
Just before the break, Al-Wakrah player Ousmane Coulibaly collapsed on the pitch and the players urgently called for medical attention. Play was immediately halted and the medical staff swiftly ran onto the field to revive the footballer
Qatari League game abandoned after player collapses (BeSoccer
433 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 256 Dead, After COVID Shot (Real Science)
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Or, steroids could be coursing through the veins of every professional athlete. The more probable reason to anyone who knows anything about modern sports.
Has steroid use changed dramatically in the last 2 years?
Yes.
Evidence please Sara. I’m sure. You have it to hand.
How?
Soccer and tennis dont have heavy steroid use compared to other sports such as wrestling, fighting, cycling etc..
Are you joking? Soccer and tennis have massive steroid issues. The problem with them both is that their Professional Associations don’t do doping tests regularly (they don’t want to kill the golden egg). It’s what the Tour De France was twenty years ago.
The golden goose, Sara.
@Sara: Are there any cyclist having cardiac arrests?
I dont think you understand steroid use in completive sports if you think football has higher steroid use compared to other sports.
why is broadsheet giving oxygen to this nonsense?
Because they’ve long since dug their way right down through the Qanon, batplop crazy, conspiracy rabbit hole
Beats genocide.
More likely to beget genocide. What else do you think The Storm is?
Speaking of which
https://www.thebulwark.com/i-spent-insurrection-week-listening-to-steve-bannon/
pretty good read, and my kinda writer
I could do 5,000 words on this line alone
Insurrection never paid so good.
Which reminds me, a lad over the weekend on one of the Q chat channels on Telegram
posted that he was still making 12k (US$ I suppose) a week from a QAnon carryon Artist
it didn’t go down too well
It’s getting to the point now where they are going to have to admit that there is an issue.
The fact that these people are high end athletes in the peak of good health makes it not only more difficult to cover up, but raises stark questions as to what is actually going on.
Just a coincidence! 10s of high profile sports stars have always collapsed during games
Trust the science
Here’s an article from 6 years ago about it. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/apr/29/elite-athletes-asthma-simon-yates-team-sky-swimmers
https://diariodevallarta.com/en/jugadores-de-la-fifa-muriendo-repentinamente-atletas-colapsando-con-ataques-al-corazon-350-casos-en-2021/
A list on approx 370 named professional athletes that have collapsed this year. Notable that month-on-month during the year there has been a notable increase in cases.
When you’re taking your information from a website called “good sciencing” you know you’re engaging in some very dubious straw clutching!
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/real-science-goodsciencing-com-bias/
https://diariodevallarta.com/en/jugadores-de-la-fifa-muriendo-repentinamente-atletas-colapsando-con-ataques-al-corazon-350-casos-en-2021/
A list on approx 370 named professional athletes that have collapsed this year
Any statistics from previous years for comparison?
I don’t have any. (You’d liked to some at some stage?)
But in their absence, the month-on-month increase in cases during 2021 should be enough to ring the alarm bells.
Also – we’re talking about professional athletes. We have no figures on non-professional athletes (such as people who take less-than-professional exercise, and dropping). We won’t get those more than likely.
So it’s just a number. There could have been 400 in 2019 but nobody cared about middle eastern football league players collapsing back then.
You obviously missed the ‘But in their absence, the month-on-month increase in cases during 2021 should be enough to ring the alarm bells.’ bit. Unless you’re saying it’s a seasonal thing, these people collapsing.
Plus – there are lots of nationalities in the 370. UK, USA etc.
If athletes collapsing like this genuinely concerns you, then yes, you should be alarmed. if you think these collapses are caused by the vaccines, you need the numbers from previous years to show whether there’s a correlation.
I’ve given you the December 2021 figures, and figures for the previous 11 months. When did the vaccines appear?
Why would previous years figures concern you – those figures are enough, and the athletes named.
If you’re trying to establish correlation with the vaccines the very first thing you need is numbers from years with no vaccines, and that’s just the starting point, since if it did show a correlation you’d have to control for any number of other factors, including covid itself.
@Nigel.
Nope. The build-up in the 12 month period is enough to extract information. Or are you, too, saying that this is seasonal (people collapsing) and it happens like that every year. If so, then you produce the figures.
No of cases by month in 2021. Just a quick scan over the records, so won’t be exact as it’s just that – a quick scan, but gives you an insight. Do a calculation yourself.
January 6
February 5
March 15
April 8
May 10
June 18
July 26
August 34
Sept. 51
Oct. 67
Nov. 70
Dec 62
The elderly were first to get jabbed, and that started roughly December 2020. The rollout to the athletic age groups would have started months later. July onwards.
You cannot establish whether it is ‘seasonal’ – and I’m not sure what you mean by that in this context, other than sporting seasons? – or not without using previous years for comparison. There’s very little you can establish based on one year’s figures other than ‘it’s happening.’
‘Or are you, too, saying that this is seasonal (people collapsing) and it happens like that every year’
I’m not saying anything, you’re the one trying to estblish some sort of hypothesis. To do that, you’ll have to produce more than one year’s figures for comparison.
Atheletes have been collapsing with some regularity for decades.
The numbers are up on 2020 becuase there was fupp all taking place in 2020. The numbers are higher in 2017-2019 years.
We’re also not that far removed from a few high profile SAD related deaths in the GAA. Then there’s miklos fehrer, Marc Vivien foe, Fabrice muamba to name but a few very high profile cases of serious collapse or death in athletes.
Ah yes, mediabiasfactcheck.com. A broadcasting heavyweight
…where would you get it…the BS worldwide sports coverage is astonishing…
lol
If you actually made a good faith effort to connect these collapses to the vaccines instead of ‘Just Asking Questions’ I could respect the grift. Its the sheer laziness that gets me, but also how it’s all that’s needed to set off the usual suspects. Unimpressive.
https://www.gssiweb.org/sports-science-exchange/article/sse-95-collapse-in-the-endurance-athlete
Is the issue here the vaccine causing the issue, or perhaps are these pro athletes who didn’t take vaccine or got covid (with little or no symptoms) but didn’t realise the damage it may have done them?
It seems the anti-vax brigade hang onto the former, but there’s probably just as much chance with the latter given apparent high rates of non vaxxed pro sports folk.
There is a known virus that causes breathing difficulties spreading across the world for the last two years. Athlete’s have trouble breathing – “iTs ThE vAcCiNe!”
Odds on Djokovic collapsing at match point in the final?
Then we can put this whole thing to bed once and for all.
Here, have a look at this
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport-idUSL1N2SK160
it is quite clear that it is not a vaccine related issue. There has not been a rise in such cases when compared with pre Covid years. It is just being reported on more.
For example:
“CRY also pointed Reuters toward data published in 2008, which showed 12 ‘apparently fit and healthy’ young people (aged 35 and under) die in the United Kingdom every week from previously undiagnosed heart conditions (www.c-r-y.org.uk/statistics/ and here)”
Now Broadsheet, can you stop posting these stories?
you know bodger won’t. BS is BS at this point. Sad
Sad but true Chimpy.
Did you read to the end of that article?
It says:
VERDICT:
No evidence.
It doesn’t say FALSE. So while you may be right in thinking it is not caused by the vaccines, you are definitely premature in stating that as a fact.
Athletes are also cramming more into tighter schedules and deadlines and are not managing their performance data and rest etc the same way as they would have pre 2020 because they’re being given absolutely barny schedules for our entertainment
Well, I for one
am delighted
to see Bodger take an interest in sport
and for sport to be a daily feature on Broadsheet
finally
total nonsense